Can Perriman be our first 1000 yard rookie receiver?

[JoeyFlex5]

Can Perriman even get on the field?

try to play football a few days after a bone bruise in your knee. 

 

its a smart precaucionary move to not force our first round pick to play on a bruised and swollen knee, the reps are valuable, but its better he sit out now and heal up completely, than to aggravate it every week during the regular season until it end up being severe and forcing him to miss real games, or even worse, it swells up until his knee becomes unstable and he tears something.

[Cville-Raven]

If he's not a starter:

 

50-60 targets

30-40 receptions

Around 18 yards per reception

 

Between 550-650 yards and 3-5 TDs.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If he is a starter:

 

100-120 targets

70-80 receptions

Around 15 yards per reception

 

Bewteen 1,050 and 1,200 yards and 8-10 TDs.

If he catches 70+ balls , his yardage is going to be way higher than 1200 IMO.

Edited August 8, 2015 by Cville-Raven

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

At this point, its all speculation. Would be nice seeing him on the field, then we will see how he does at least in live practice. Then, can he beat out other guys, or are they gifting the position to him? Gotta earn it in my book.

My money is on Aiken at the #2 spot, he is a human vacuum cleaner, with good route running skills. Hows it go, a bird in hand, is worth more than 2 in the bush?

[flynismo]

I'm thinking a rookie season akin to Torrey's, health permitting of course - fingers crossed on that.

Around 40-50 recs, about 7-800 yards, 5-7 TD's. But besides stats, I just want to seem him compete for catches and flash the potential of a future #1 WR. That's more important than his rookie stats imo, especially if he's gonna miss time and reps here in the beginning.

Pretty much what I expect too....around 800 yards and 5-7 TD.

Fantasy tip: I think he has a shot at 9-10 TDs ... won't surpass 800 yards by much, but I think he will be big time in the red zone

[PerpetuallyBored74]

If he catches 70+ balls , his yardage is going to be way higher than 1200 IMO.

 

If he averages 15 yards per reception (Y/R) and has 80 catches, that will be 1200 yards.

80 x 15 = 1200

 

Only way he has "way higher than 1200" is if he has around 100 catches or 20 Y/R.

Do you really see him catching that many?

Or having 20 Y/R in a WCO with 70+ catches?

[Cville-Raven]

If he averages 15 yards per reception (Y/R) and has 80 catches, that will be 1200 yards.

80 x 15 = 1200

Only way he has "way higher than 1200" is if he has around 100 catches or 20 Y/R.

Do you really see him catching that many?

Or having 20 Y/R in a WCO with 70+ catches?

I'll admit I overestimated on "way higher" but 1200 still seems low; "assuming" he has 70+ receptions as a rookie. I see a big part of his game as a rookie being his ability to get deep downfield. 15 ypc just seems low for him. I'm thinking a bit more; around 16-17+ ypc. I would also think he catches more than 10 TDs in this scenario.

Edited August 9, 2015 by Cville-Raven

[52520Andrew]

Just thought I would throw this in there but Torrey ended up with 65 receptions and 1,128 yards in 2013. Going off that(since I would imagine their roles would be similar), if Perriman gets 70 balls, he will probably be around 1,200 yards. Considering the only rookie WR to get more than 1,200 yards last year was Beckham, I would be absolutely thrilled if Perriman got that but I wouldn't be counting on that type of total at least for year 1, maybe in the future depending on what he shows.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

I'll admit I overestimated on "way higher" but 1200 still seems low; "assuming" he has 70+ receptions as a rookie. I see a big part of his game as a rookie being his ability to get deep downfield. 15 ypc just seems low for him. I'm thinking a bit more; around 16-17+ ypc. I would also think he catches more than 10 TDs in this scenario.

 

Generally, the more catches, the lower the ypc.

So if he has 16-17 ypc, then he's unlikely to have 70+ catches, probably around 50-60.

And we have too many weapons, both pass-catching and rushng, for any one player to be likely to have 10+ TDs.

I know, Torrey had 11 last year, but that was somewhat of a freaky year for Torrey--less than 50% catch rate, but double digit TDs?

He was like the Adam Dunn of the Ravens, either a strikeout (INT or some other miscue) or a towering home run (TD or PI on a long bomb).

[ravensdan]

Just thought I would throw this in there but Torrey ended up with 65 receptions and 1,128 yards in 2013. Going off that(since I would imagine their roles would be similar), if Perriman gets 70 balls, he will probably be around 1,200 yards. Considering the only rookie WR to get more than 1,200 yards last year was Beckham, I would be absolutely thrilled if Perriman got that but I wouldn't be counting on that type of total at least for year 1, maybe in the future depending on what he shows.

Yeah. I think expectations are way way way too high for the rookie receivers. Perriman is going to need some time to really develop. Beckham is unique. He's likely the best WR in the NFL. You can't judge all rookies off of his production.

[ludy51]

Yeah. I think expectations are way way way too high for the rookie receivers. Perriman is going to need some time to really develop. Beckham is unique. He's likely the best WR in the NFL. You can't judge all rookies off of his production.

You need to calm down on Beckham

[52520Andrew]

Yeah. I think expectations are way way way too high for the rookie receivers. Perriman is going to need some time to really develop. Beckham is unique. He's likely the best WR in the NFL. You can't judge all rookies off of his production.

Yeah and what is crazy is Beckham didn't even play all 16 games, if you took his average receiving yards per game and stretched it out over 16 games, he would have led the league in receiving yards.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Perriman now looks to be out until October. I guess a breakout rookie season is not likely.  Pity.

 

I wish they'd get their story straight on his injury status.  They're back to the PCL injury after calling a bone bruise and then a flare up of his OS.  Not sure why they can't diagnose this but it doesn't fill me with confidence. 

[balfan23]

1,000 yards was a long shot, even if he played in all 16 games, which he almost certainly won't. 

 

I'm not concerned about how many yards he gets ... I just want to see him make an impact. Help open the field for the rest of the receivers and make a few key plays here and there. If he's doing that at the end of the year and we've played well enough overall to get into the playoffs, I think we should be happy. 

[Ravensfan23]

Perriman now looks to be out until October. I guess a breakout rookie season is not likely.  Pity.

 

I wish they'd get their story straight on his injury status.  They're back to the PCL injury after calling a bone bruise and then a flare up of his OS.  Not sure why they can't diagnose this but it doesn't fill me with confidence.

Not insulting your intelligences but i think anyone that expected Perriman back before October was kidding themselves, especially with the brutal 4 game stretch the Ravens start with. My prediction has been the Browns game with is October 11th so if reports are that he'll be out until October it seems to be perfect timing based upon what his injury is.

[K-Dog]

Perriman now looks to be out until October. I guess a breakout rookie season is not likely.  Pity.

 

I wish they'd get their story straight on his injury status.  They're back to the PCL injury after calling a bone bruise and then a flare up of his OS.  Not sure why they can't diagnose this but it doesn't fill me with confidence. 

Its pre season for the doctors too ?

[Cillmatic]

At this point I'm praying for a 700 yard season. This guys probably gonna miss a couple games, then come back extremely raw while we have to play some of best defenses in the league.

[codizzle]

At this point, I just wanna see the dude in a jersey

[The Mom Gene]

Perriman now looks to be out until October. I guess a breakout rookie season is not likely.  Pity.

 

I wish they'd get their story straight on his injury status.  They're back to the PCL injury after calling a bone bruise and then a flare up of his OS.  Not sure why they can't diagnose this but it doesn't fill me with confidence. 

Where did you hear that information?  The only place I see that when I google it,

are the fantasy sites.  Profootballtalk has him questionable for Week 1.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/06/breshad-perriman-remains-questionable-for-week-one/

[Clmraven]

Where did you hear that information?

Jamison hensly posted that if it was a PCL the timeline would be October, it seems like pure speculation but people are taking it as fact.

[The Mom Gene]

At this point, I just wanna see the dude in a jersey

Check the pre-game practice at the Falcons...

[The Mom Gene]

Jamison hensly posted that if it was a PCL the timeline would be October, it seems like pure speculation but people are taking it as fact.

We don't use speculation here.  "people" seem to be fantasy folks. No new information has been released at all.

[codizzle]

Check the pre-game practice at the Falcons...

Well yea ... But you know what I mean

[The Mom Gene]

Well yea ... But you know what I mean

I do...  Just tired of all the speculation by people who don't know anymore than the rest of us.  Ya' gotta feel for the guy.  Ya' also know he wants to be out there.

[The Mom Gene]

Jamison hensly posted that if it was a PCL the timeline would be October, it seems like pure speculation but people are taking it as fact.

That information regarding a PCL was spoken of 4 weeks ago by Harbaugh.  Hensley doesn't know.

[Clmraven]

That information regarding a PCL was spoken of 4 weeks ago by Harbaugh.  Hensley doesn't know.

Yea I know, as far as I'm concerned anything not relayed by the Ravens or Harbs himself is pure speculation, and at this point I don't care about the timeline I'd just like to know what's actually happening to him, instead of hearing 5 different stories about his knee.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I care more about having a 100% healthy Perriman going into the 2nd half of the season than any short term desire to want to see him on the field asap so we can get an idea of who our 1st rd draft pick is.

Sure it's frustrating not really knowing his status and there being such a range on the severity of the injury and expecte timetable for return - but luckily the range doesn't seem to include the possibility of it being severe and missing 6+ games.

My expectations remain pretty much the same with the caveat that he now doesn't hit his full stride until the midway point of the season. Stats aren't as important to me - I just want him to prove to be a threat to beat a team deep so they have to respect it and open up space underneath for SSS, Aiken, Camp, Crock, Maxx, Juice and Forsett to do damage on the ground and through the air.

If he adds that facet to our offense.... Even if we don't see a huge statistical output from him this year but we see a significant increase in the effectiveness of the other weapons I'll look at that as success.

Don't think he'll miss more than 2-4 games, so I still see a season for him with 750 yds, 45-50 catches and 4 TDs in the regular season. Then he'll explode in the playoffs and become a household name a la Larry Fitzgerald. Not as prolific because he won't need to be, but will prove the potential to be the go to target on a very good offense.

[balfan23]

My expectations remain pretty much the same with the caveat that he now doesn't hit his full stride until the midway point of the season. Stats aren't as important to me - I just want him to prove to be a threat to beat a team deep so they have to respect it and open up space underneath for SSS, Aiken, Camp, Crock, Maxx, Juice and Forsett to do damage on the ground and through the air.

Exactly. I don't care about his total yards. We need him to have that impact. Just make teams cover deep, open the field and hurt them now and then. 

[redrum52]

2010 pick up veteran wr Anquan Boldin. That year made divisional round. Lost a game, where we had a 14 point lead to a rival team. 11 drafted a wr early in the draft with game breaking speed. Make it to the AFCCG, losing to a team who would become a rival after said game. 2012 won the SB.

Fast forward, 2014, pick up veteran wr SSS(please say the senior) and lose in the divisional to a rival, after a 14 ppint lead. 2015 we pick up a wr with game breaking speed....

[52520Andrew]

2010 pick up veteran wr Anquan Boldin. That year made divisional round. Lost a game, where we had a 14 point lead to a rival team. 11 drafted a wr early in the draft with game breaking speed. Make it to the AFCCG, losing to a team who would become a rival after said game. 2012 won the SB.

Fast forward, 2014, pick up veteran wr SSS(please say the senior) and lose in the divisional to a rival, after a 14 ppint lead. 2015 we pick up a wr with game breaking speed....

Great so we are losing a heartbreaker in the AFC Championship game

[redrum52]

Great so we are losing a heartbreaker in the AFC Championship game[/quote

Or yout could say we're a season away from a chip. I prefer the way I look at it.

...Tucker wouldn't miss a kick to end our season either