Can Perriman be our first 1000 yard rookie receiver?

[The Raven]

Since we're short on receivers, can someone explain why we had no interest in Wes Welker who just signed with the Rams ?

 

Trying to get a guy we might be able to develop for the future.

[Ravens4Real]

I know most say how can Perriman be a bust when he hasn't even gotten the chance to get on the field. Obviously no one can see or judge how his actual performance is in this case.

I have the complete opposite view point. There is a floor that you would want over a career from a first round pick. Until that guy has proven or accomplished that floor, in my eyes, he is a bust.

Injuries are part of the game and play into these guys playing and producing. If he's injured and not on the field producing then he's a bust to me. Like I said, I have the complete opposition view point compared to most when it comes to what an actual bust is.

[GrimCoconut]

Calling players busts due to injuries is normally out of line imo. Kindle wasn't a bust for this reason. The difference is that Perriman doesn't have a typical career ending injury here. This is an injury many NFL players fight through.

I'm not calling him a bust yet because that's unfair; however, he's already earned the soft label imo and he's trending in the wrong direction.

[52520Andrew]

I would not call Perriman a bust at this point but I also think it is just as out of line to say that he is going to be something special when he hasn't even seen the field. Frankly I don't know what to expect from the guy when he gets on the field. It would be great if he could actually get on the field though.

[PurpleCity5]

if he doesnt take a snap and we dont sign another WR, that will be a huge fail on the FO and i would be upset. 

I agree, but what if we use FA entirely on defense? 

[PurpleCity5]

Calling Perriman a bust is a bit premature, but there are surely questions around him, and he surely isn't helping himself either. 

[Deflated Football]

Ozzie, stop drafting WR's, in ANY round. Sign or trade for proven veterans. This BP debacle is getting extremely disheartening. 

[TSizzle00]

maybe he'll play and get 500 yards each of the last two weeks ; ;

[usmccharles]

I agree, but what if we use FA entirely on defense?

then I think it's mistake, especially if we draft a wr in the first. Relying in BP and another first round wr would not be giving Joe adequate weapons, another setup for failure. I think signing a FA vet wr is key.

[Gordo52]

I'd sure love to be a fly on the wall in Ozzie & Harbs meetings about this... Sigh. I know this is stupid but I wish Perriman can retire already and give me some closure lol

Joe has to deal with so much bs, it ain't right.

[GrimCoconut]

maybe he'll play and get 500 yards each of the last two weeks ; ;

Hey, it's possible. Antonio Brown had 250+ against the Raiders. 

[PurpleCity5]

then I think it's mistake, especially if we draft a wr in the first. Relying in BP and another first round wr would not be giving Joe adequate weapons, another setup for failure. I think signing a FA vet wr is key.

Its a hypothetical. I doubt we would do it. This may seem bold but right now id focus on continueing to build the offense to dominance. We have the pieces, we just need the weapons.

[redlobster]

I wouldn't call him a bust yet  but I would call him an extreme disappointment so far.

[Deflated Football]

I wouldn't call him a bust yet  but I would call him an extreme disappointment so far.

Based on what? He's injured and is apparently a slow healer. His injury is disappointing but how can he himself be a disappointment? Is Kevin White or Dante Fowler a disappointment? When I think of a player that's disappointing I think of Matt Elam or Marlon Brown.

[PurpleCity5]

I wouldn't call him a bust yet  but I would call him an extreme disappointment so far.

That's fine. I think you're right, its definitely been a disappointing season no doubt about it. 

[GrimCoconut]

Based on what? He's injured and is apparently a slow healer. His injury is disappointing but how can he himself be a disappointment? Is Kevin White or Dante Fowler a disappointment? When I think of a player that's disappointing I think of Matt Elam or Marlon Brown.

While it's fair to bring up White and Fowler as comparisons for Perriman, I ultimately find these comparisons weak since these two suffered season ending injuries and were known and expected to miss their rookie seasons. Perriman suffered what should be an injury that takes a month to heal if that.

[Deflated Football]

While it's fair to bring up White and Fowler as comparisons for Perriman, I ultimately find these comparisons weak since these two suffered season ending injuries and were known and expected to miss their rookie seasons. Perriman suffered what should be an injury that takes a month to heal if that.

That wasn't my point though. I meant that the players themselves shouldn't be called disappointments because it's not their fault and nor should it be BP's fault that he's healing slow.

[Kid87]

Of course he can, he has never dropped a passed, never been shut down,and has never played a game with out scoring a TD in the NFL. Sounds like a 1000 yard receiver to me lol

[GrimCoconut]

That wasn't my point though. I meant that the players themselves shouldn't be called disappointments because it's not their fault and nor should it be BP's fault that he's healing slow.

I think the concern people have is that it's less he's healing slow and it's more or less a desire issue. That seems to be the common underlying complaint.

[Kid87]

Real talk I hope at least comes back healthy at some point this season

[usmccharles]

Its a hypothetical. I doubt we would do it. This may seem bold but right now id focus on continueing to build the offense to dominance. We have the pieces, we just need the weapons.

our defense is do bad... And a top pick for Oz will surely be a difference maker. I agree we need to build our offense, but if we draft another wr we might go into next year with two wrs that's taken zero snaps in the NFL. If we do that we definitely need a veteran at that position, I don't count Aiken. Like I've been preaching for awhile... I see us landing vjax, Garcon, nate Washington, or Roddy white. I'm not a fan of it. But I think we end up with Roddy white.

[Cillmatic]

Luck as a lacerated kidney and torn abdomen. 2-6 week recovery time. I GUARANTEE you Luck is back before Perriman.

[PurpleCity5]

our defense is do bad... And a top pick for Oz will surely be a difference maker. I agree we need to build our offense, but if we draft another wr we might go into next year with two wrs that's taken zero snaps in the NFL. If we do that we definitely need a veteran at that position, I don't count Aiken. Like I've been preaching for awhile... I see us landing vjax, Garcon, nate Washington, or Roddy white. I'm not a fan of it. But I think we end up with Roddy white.

I think we need a starting WR who can make a difference. I look at guys who are in unfortunate situations who are playing in abysmal offenses with poor QB play. I don't see Roddy White in that situation, I think the guy has slowed down, I don't think he has much left in him anymore. How would he elevate his play here? White is surrounded by Julio Jones and DeVonta Freeman, a good Oline and a competent QB, he shouldn't be playing this poorly. 

 

I feel that same way about Nate Washington and I'm starting to have my doubts about Garcon as well. He's been the clear cut top option in Washington. I want a guy who makes his QB looks good. 

 

While Vincent Jackson has his inconsistencies, he's still the best WR out of that bunch. I'd sign him, then trade up for a WR who will be there in the 2nd like Michael Thomas or Tyler Boyd, I think there's a good chance we'll trade up for a WR in this upcoming draft. 

[PurpleCity5]

Luck as a lacerated kidney and torn abdomen. 2-6 week recovery time. I GUARANTEE you Luck is back before Perriman.

Man, you've been venting about this. I can't lie, I've chuckled a bit at some of the comments. 

[Deflated Football]

I think the concern people have is that it's less he's healing slow and it's more or less a desire issue. That seems to be the common underlying complaint.

Maybe, but that's purely speculation. All I know is he's injured and he hasn't been a disappointment to me, but I could understand some fans' frustration for sure.

[RavensFanMania]

Hey, it's possible. Antonio Brown had 250+ against the Raiders. 

he had over 300

[beanfigger]

he had over 300

284 receiving yards.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I honestly think this injury can sum up the season. All that can go wrong, has....

Ugh

[nyc9192]

I think we need a starting WR who can make a difference. I look at guys who are in unfortunate situations who are playing in abysmal offenses with poor QB play. I don't see Roddy White in that situation, I think the guy has slowed down, I don't think he has much left in him anymore. How would he elevate his play here? White is surrounded by Julio Jones and DeVonta Freeman, a good Oline and a competent QB, he shouldn't be playing this poorly. 

 

I feel that same way about Nate Washington and I'm starting to have my doubts about Garcon as well. He's been the clear cut top option in Washington. I want a guy who makes his QB looks good. 

 

While Vincent Jackson has his inconsistencies, he's still the best WR out of that bunch. I'd sign him, then trade up for a WR who will be there in the 2nd like Michael Thomas or Tyler Boyd, I think there's a good chance we'll trade up for a WR in this upcoming draft. 

This!

[usmccharles]

I think we need a starting WR who can make a difference. I look at guys who are in unfortunate situations who are playing in abysmal offenses with poor QB play. I don't see Roddy White in that situation, I think the guy has slowed down, I don't think he has much left in him anymore. How would he elevate his play here? White is surrounded by Julio Jones and DeVonta Freeman, a good Oline and a competent QB, he shouldn't be playing this poorly. 

 

I feel that same way about Nate Washington and I'm starting to have my doubts about Garcon as well. He's been the clear cut top option in Washington. I want a guy who makes his QB looks good. 

 

While Vincent Jackson has his inconsistencies, he's still the best WR out of that bunch. I'd sign him, then trade up for a WR who will be there in the 2nd like Michael Thomas or Tyler Boyd, I think there's a good chance we'll trade up for a WR in this upcoming draft. 

Im hoping your not thinking i was wanting to bring in Roddy White, i was simply stating i think thats who we end up with, i hope not though.  We for sure need a WR who can make a difference and i dont think White offers anything a young/cheap Aiken cant do, we are on agreement basically on everything, dont know if you realize that lol

 

Vjax is my favorite option although his injuries are a bit worrisome.  But i like his size and style of play more than any others.  Sadly i dont think boyd will be there in the 2nd but we still have a long ways to go for these players to go up or down on draft boards, make dumb decisions off the field, etc...But i do agree we should grab a WR in the 2nd or 3rd, torn though because im hoping we can come away with Ogbha in the second, doubtful though. 

 

Garcon might not end up leaving washington if they release Desean Jackson, they need to throw to someone.  And Garcon might be expensive, which we cant afford much in FA

 

I really wanted us to bring in Crabtree in the offseason, he is playing very good ball right now and now will be more expensive. 

 

Overall, IMO, We need to sign a veteran WR in FA and draft a WR thats not a project, or maybe trade for one that is still on their rookie deal, no one specefic comes to mind though.  We have to go forward as if SSR is retiring, which means we have BP, Aiken, Brown (should be cut), Givens, Waller, Camp, Ross.  That is going to be another rough year at the position if not addressed for immediate and future production.