Can Perriman be our first 1000 yard rookie receiver?

[Wildabeast88]

the only point i see you and others are trying to make is that the FO should be like the lions and draft a WR in the 1st round untill they hit the jackpot.

you are not willing to accept that they have a strategy they stay true to.

if a WR is available at the spot they are picking and they have him rated the highest they will take him.

if a WR is slipping and he about to fall to a spot they can trade up to they will do it if they can.

they are not going to reach or sell the house like the falcons did.

they are not on purpose choosing not to draft a WR.

its a myth.

a very bad one.

when they evaluate players and make their draft board they dont have the luxury of hindsight to determine who should be taken when.

i remember this board slamming their hand on the table for jealen strong and how we should have taken him in round 1.

heck many here had him over marcus peters.

imagine if we had taken him in round 1 lol

At least Jealen Strong has played a snap. I just want to see what we have in Perriman. However if his healing rate is this slow we are in trouble Edited November 4, 2015 by Wildabeast88

[Deflated Football]

ACL is an anterior cruciate ligament, PCL is a posterior cruciate ligament, MCL is a medial cruciate ligament, and an LCL is a lateral cruciate ligament. The ACL, PCL & LCL all connect the femur to the tibia. The femur is your thigh bone and the tibia is commonly called the shin. The MCL connects the femur to the fibula.

It sounds like you're describing the LCL or maybe the MCL. By outside what do you mean? What side of your knee was it, the side of your knee facing your other knee (medial MCL) or the side that doesn't face the other knee(lateral LCL)?

Anyway, those are admittedly easier to recover from because the ACL & PCL are actually the more unstable of the two and also the more frequently injured.

Really good info. Thank you

[Tru11]

At least Jealen Strong has played a snap. I just want to see what we have in Perriman. However if his healing rate is this slow we are in trouble

 

you do know he re injured himself right?

 

think it was week 3 against the bengals when it happened.

 

so it really makes sense his recovery time increased.

 

if you want him to comeback sooner you risk the same thing happening again.....

[Static]

the only point i see you and others are trying to make is that the FO should be like the lions and draft a WR in the 1st round untill they hit the jackpot.

 

you are not willing to accept that they have a strategy they stay true to.

 

if a WR is available at the spot they are picking and they have him rated the highest they will take him.

if a WR is slipping and he about to fall to a spot they can trade up to they will do it if they can.

they are not going to reach or sell the house like the falcons did.

 

they are not on purpose choosing not to draft a WR.

its a myth.

a very bad one.

 

when they evaluate players and make their draft board they dont have the luxury of hindsight to determine who should be taken when.

 

i remember this board slamming their hand on the table for jealen strong and how we should have taken him in round 1.

heck many here had him over marcus peters.

 

imagine if we had taken him in round 1 lol

 

Strong has two TDs this year, what does Perriman have?

[Tru11]

Strong has two TDs this year, what does Perriman have?

 

he has an injury....

Edited November 4, 2015 by Tru11

[Wildabeast88]

you do know he re injured himself right?

 

think it was week 3 against the bengals when it happened.

 

so it really makes sense his recovery time increased.

 

if you want him to comeback sooner you risk the same thing happening again.....

I think it was week 2 against the Raiders but either way it would be nice to get some evaluation to see where we might draft another WR

[Tru11]

I think it was week 2 against the Raiders but either way it would be nice to get some evaluation to see where we might draft another WR

 

they are keeping him on the roster to do just that lol.

 

if not he would have been on IR long ago.

[JoeyFlex5]

the only point i see you and others are trying to make is that the FO should be like the lions and draft a WR in the 1st round untill they hit the jackpot.

 

you are not willing to accept that they have a strategy they stay true to.

 

if a WR is available at the spot they are picking and they have him rated the highest they will take him.

if a WR is slipping and he about to fall to a spot they can trade up to they will do it if they can.

they are not going to reach or sell the house like the falcons did.

 

they are not on purpose choosing not to draft a WR.

its a myth.

a very bad one.

 

when they evaluate players and make their draft board they dont have the luxury of hindsight to determine who should be taken when.

 

i remember this board slamming their hand on the table for jealen strong and how we should have taken him in round 1.

heck many here had him over marcus peters.

 

imagine if we had taken him in round 1 lol

nail on the head. we might be picking top 5 in next years draft and people are gonna be banging the table for laquon treadwell. 

 

i already see over half the boards with the mindstate that even if we were picking first overall then the pick HAS to be hargreaves even though FS and OLB/edge are both bigger holes than cb and with better talent at the top. 

 

the inability of some people to understand that all teams have peaks and valleys, the league is designed to FORCE teams to suffer through this occasionally, and that the only way to get back to the peak is to stick to our proven winning strategy, weve picked in the bottom half for 7 straight years now, of course we have some misses, weve also found some total steals, and ozzie isnt about to blow our first high pick in years by making a monumental reach, he will stick to the formula and find us a stud in the the early first and second and we will be on our way. 

[GrimCoconut]

you do know he re injured himself right?

think it was week 3 against the bengals when it happened.

so it really makes sense his recovery time increased.

if you want him to comeback sooner you risk the same thing happening again.....

Harbaugh said he didn't injure himself again and the surgeon supposedly corroborated this claim. Just because he pulled up lame running drills doesn't mean he injured himself again. Perhaps he just didn't like how it felt and didn't trust it.

[GrimCoconut]

Really good info. Thank you

No problem. I forgot to mention that anterior means front and posterior means back. All four ligaments are used to connect the femur to the lower leg bones.

[BmoreBird22]

No problem. I forgot to mention that anterior means front and posterior means back. All four ligaments are used to connect the femur to the lower leg bones.

People are probably going to get annoyed with me saying this, but the PCL is the one I would take the most seriously

[jazz1988]

What does "week to week" even mean and why can't we get a clear timetable for a return and why hasn't BP talked to the media and how does Harbaugh know only as much as the fans do? So many questions. 

 

I don't think many players in Harbaugh era talked about injuries or how they  coming along. Harbaugh just has made it strict rule about not discussing about injuries.

[Gordo52]

So who said he was only weeks away and should we read that as in years?

[Tru11]

Harbaugh said he didn't injure himself again and the surgeon supposedly corroborated this claim. Just because he pulled up lame running drills doesn't mean he injured himself again. Perhaps he just didn't like how it felt and didn't trust it.

 

harbaugh also said he would miss little time lol.

 

its pretty obvious he had a set back in his rehab.

 

he went from being able to run at almost full speed to apparently not being able to do much.

 

should have said setback instead of re injury i guess.

[Ravens2343]

nail on the head. we might be picking top 5 in next years draft and people are gonna be banging the table for laquon treadwell. 

 

i already see over half the boards with the mindstate that even if we were picking first overall then the pick HAS to be hargreaves even though FS and OLB/edge are both bigger holes than cb and with better talent at the top. 

 

the inability of some people to understand that all teams have peaks and valleys, the league is designed to FORCE teams to suffer through this occasionally, and that the only way to get back to the peak is to stick to our proven winning strategy, weve picked in the bottom half for 7 straight years now, of course we have some misses, weve also found some total steals, and ozzie isnt about to blow our first high pick in years by making a monumental reach, he will stick to the formula and find us a stud in the the early first and second and we will be on our way. 

 

the only point i see you and others are trying to make is that the FO should be like the lions and draft a WR in the 1st round untill they hit the jackpot.

 

you are not willing to accept that they have a strategy they stay true to.

 

if a WR is available at the spot they are picking and they have him rated the highest they will take him.

if a WR is slipping and he about to fall to a spot they can trade up to they will do it if they can.

they are not going to reach or sell the house like the falcons did.

 

they are not on purpose choosing not to draft a WR.

its a myth.

a very bad one.

 

when they evaluate players and make their draft board they dont have the luxury of hindsight to determine who should be taken when.

 

i remember this board slamming their hand on the table for jealen strong and how we should have taken him in round 1.

heck many here had him over marcus peters.

 

imagine if we had taken him in round 1 lol

 

You both are missing the point I was trying to make.  I never said we should be like the Lions and draft wideout every year in the first, in fact from where we have been picking recently in the first I think we have gotten good players.  But no where did I say we should start drafting like the Lions did or we should bail on the BPA approach.  I am saying that the Ravens SHOULD realize how poor our wide receiving corps is and look to address it in the draft.  There will be good wide receivers available in rounds 2-3 like every year and it would be nice to see the Ravens invest in the position more. 

[usmccharles]

You both are missing the point I was trying to make.  I never said we should be like the Lions and draft wideout every year in the first, in fact from where we have been picking recently in the first I think we have gotten good players.  But no where did I say we should start drafting like the Lions did or we should bail on the BPA approach.  I am saying that the Ravens SHOULD realize how poor our wide receiving corps is and look to address it in the draft.  There will be good wide receivers available in rounds 2-3 like every year and it would be nice to see the Ravens invest in the position more. 

I agree, with so many needs its hard to say wr in the first but if we did, it would be exciting know that we will have two wrs here for the next couple of years

[nyc9192]

nail on the head. we might be picking top 5 in next years draft and people are gonna be banging the table for laquon treadwell. 

 

i already see over half the boards with the mindstate that even if we were picking first overall then the pick HAS to be hargreaves even though FS and OLB/edge are both bigger holes than cb and with better talent at the top. 

 

the inability of some people to understand that all teams have peaks and valleys, the league is designed to FORCE teams to suffer through this occasionally, and that the only way to get back to the peak is to stick to our proven winning strategy, weve picked in the bottom half for 7 straight years now, of course we have some misses, weve also found some total steals, and ozzie isnt about to blow our first high pick in years by making a monumental reach, he will stick to the formula and find us a stud in the the early first and second and we will be on our way. 

I agree with you with most of what you wrote Joey,but there is no way that lb/edge rusher is a bigger hole than cb or wr on this team.With the amount we've invested int he front seven in terms of draft resources,the secondary has to be the biggest focal point this offseason along with the receiving core.Ozzie's neglected them for way too long and the results are showing.Thats not to say pass rush isn't important but we can't keep doing this in which we put the majority of picks into one segment of the defense.

[GrimCoconut]

harbaugh also said he would miss little time lol.

its pretty obvious he had a set back in his rehab.

he went from being able to run at almost full speed to apparently not being able to do much.

should have said setback instead of re injury i guess.

It doesn't matter and know why? You're simply speculating whereas I'm simply relying on facts. Facts are more important than your interpretation of them. I don't disagree that there may be something more to it, but if Harbaugh said he didn't re-injure it and the surgeon supposedly agreed with this, then there's nothing you can say with your black helicopter theories. Edited November 5, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[GrimCoconut]

People are probably going to get annoyed with me saying this, but the PCL is the one I would take the most seriously

Over an ACL?

[GrimCoconut]

I find it remarkable that Brent Urban tore his biceps (August 8, 2015) after Perriman hurt his knee (July 30, 2015)and he's looking like he'll come back before Perriman. That's ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-breshad-perriman-leaves-first-training-camp-practice-with-knee-injury-20150730-story.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-brent-urban-suffers-torn-pectoral-muscle-20150808-story.html

[CorvusCorax]

I find it remarkable that Brent Urban tore his biceps (August 8, 2015) after Perriman hurt his knee (July 30, 2015)and he's looking like he'll come back before Perriman. That's ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-breshad-perriman-leaves-first-training-camp-practice-with-knee-injury-20150730-story.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-brent-urban-suffers-torn-pectoral-muscle-20150808-story.html

 

Perhaps we should put flags on Perriman? lol

 

Poor guy, what a situation to be in.

[757RavensFan]

I find it remarkable that Brent Urban tore his biceps (August 8, 2015) after Perriman hurt his knee (July 30, 2015)and he's looking like he'll come back before Perriman. That's ridiculous.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-breshad-perriman-leaves-first-training-camp-practice-with-knee-injury-20150730-story.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-brent-urban-suffers-torn-pectoral-muscle-20150808-story.html

 

Why would you even try to compare the two injuries and the recovery times?  One involves muscle damage and the other ligament damage.  A better comparison to Urban would be Elam's torn bicep, who by the way was IR'd for the season.   

[Tru11]

 

 

You both are missing the point I was trying to make.  I never said we should be like the Lions and draft wideout every year in the first, in fact from where we have been picking recently in the first I think we have gotten good players.  But no where did I say we should start drafting like the Lions did or we should bail on the BPA approach.  I am saying that the Ravens SHOULD realize how poor our wide receiving corps is and look to address it in the draft.  There will be good wide receivers available in rounds 2-3 like every year and it would be nice to see the Ravens invest in the position more. 

 

i dont think you even know what point you are trying to make.

 

1st you say that they should stay true to BPA and then you say they should pick a WR in round 2-3.

 

which 1 is it?

 

either BPA or pick a WR early.

Edited November 5, 2015 by Tru11

[Tru11]

It doesn't matter and know why? You're simply speculating whereas I'm simply relying on facts. Facts are more important than your interpretation of them. I don't disagree that there may be something more to it, but if Harbaugh said he didn't re-injure it and the surgeon supposedly agreed with this, then there's nothing you can say with your black helicopter theories.

 

so everything harbaugh says is a fact?

[GrimCoconut]

Why would you even try to compare the two injuries and the recovery times? One involves muscle damage and the other ligament damage. A better comparison to Urban would be Elam's torn bicep, who by the way was IR'd for the season.

I know the difference in comparing a muscle tear and a ligament tear. The comparison is that Urban required surgery to repair his torn muscle, which takes a player out for an extended period of time. A sprained PCL has a recovery timeframe less than the biceps injury after surgery.

This is assuming this is a grade 1 tear/sprain, since that's a minor tear that doesn't affect his ability to walk but would affect his ability to run. I'm assuming that since I've seen no evidence suggesting Perriman couldn't walk.

[GrimCoconut]

i dont think you even know what point you are trying to make.

1st you say that they should stay true to BPA and then you say they should pick a WR in round 2-3.

which 1 is it?

either BPA or pick a WR early.

I assume you didn't intend to quote me here.

[Tru11]

I assume you didn't intend to quote me here.

hmmm wth lol

 

fixed 

Edited November 5, 2015 by Tru11

[GrimCoconut]

so everything harbaugh says is a fact?

I never said that because I even admitted I feel like there may be more to this, but I can only go off the facts and all the facts say he didn't injure his knee again. That's from reports from both the team and the doctor. I say this because I feel like if this wasn't the case the players' agent would've corrected this issue. Pretty sure his agent is Rosenhaus but I could be wrong. The agent would try to make his guy look good since it's in his best interest. It's happened before.

[GrimCoconut]

hmmm wth lol

fixed

Yeah I was confused there. I was wondering when I said that crazy stuff. I was relieved I didn't post something under duress.

[Tru11]

I never said that because I even admitted I feel like there may be more to this, but I can only go off the facts and all the facts say he didn't injure his knee again. That's from reports from both the team and the doctor. I say this because I feel like if this wasn't the case the players' agent would've corrected this issue. Pretty sure his agent is Rosenhaus but I could be wrong. The agent would try to make his guy look good since it's in his best interest. It's happened before.

 

 

well if everything is the same and he did not re injure himself or did not have any setback , id love to know how someone can go from running at almost full speed to not even practicing lol.

 

it does not make any sense to me tbh.