[News] Eisenberg: Who Says Either Marshal Yanda Or Kelechi Osemele Must Go?

[BR News]

The Ravens always find a way to keep 'ascending' players and could go all-in to retain Kelechi Osemele.

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[TorryGundy]

We can pay both. Zuttah after next year can be replaced by a less expensive and probablly better by then Urschel. Wagner is Cheap. We can redo Monroe's deal. Flacco will get renegotiated. Rice dead money leaves. If Our reciever step up this year, Smith Sr may retire. Pitta can be renegotiated if he plays or goes if he doesn't. I dont think Ozzie wants to ever get weak up the middle again.

[bioLarzen]

"The Ravens always find a way to keep ‘ascending’ players"

 

McPhee, Ellerbe, Torrey... just to name a few.

 

No NFL organization can retain ALL of their ascending young talents. That's how the cap system works.

[The Mom Gene]

Who Says???? The Home team newspaper.... Which is a shame... Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..... He knows nothing.

[dorie80]

I'm glad they had this article to give some hope. I really do wish that we could keep both. The best offensive guard duo for years to come. But I don't think the front office agrees. With Urschel showing he can play and drafting "Quadzilla" this year I think they are getting prepared for life without one of them. I wish we could keep both though... I like John's optimism here

[KenInAMinor]

Isn't there a lot of dead money on the books this year that won't be there next year and isn't it likely that the cap will increase next year? How will all of this affect the Ravens Salary Cap for 2016?

[leroy31]

I hope they work it out to keep both of those Olinemen. Either way its a year away to worry about now.

[akacrow]

Osemele is a very good player, but the Ravens have at least one player in the fold who can start at the position.

The more prudent question is who do we keep, Osemele or Upshaw. There is also the possibility of signing a young edge rusher who is available in free agency, and let both Osemele and Upshaw walk.

[akacrow]

bioLarzen, wishful thinking is easier to swallow than harsh reality.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

In reality we could find a way to keep both but based on how we usually handle free agency the F.O. won't be willing to do it.If we're not willing to build our offense around elite passing threats building it around an elite o-line would be the net best thing.If we manage to keep both guards,both tackles and groom Urschel into playing center at the level that he played guard last year so we can release Zuttah after this season for the cap space then we'd be set IMO.With the line we have now any above average veteran RB can come in and give us 1,000 yards for cheap.We have to fight to maintain continuity on our o-line.

[NJ Raven]

We CAN keep them both but with Urschel waiting in the wings the 80/20 rule comes into play we get starting caliber play from him during his rookie contract and use the cap space elsewhere

[ravens4life86]

Both resigning would be nice, but Yanda first. He is already second best Olineman in Ravens history behind J.O. and no signs of slowing down on a HOF Track with atleast 3 more dominant years as best Lineman in NFL. Ravens usually keep HOF Players only Ngata was let go and that hurt

[cobrajet]

I agree with Eisenberg 100% we should really try to keep both these guys if we can. Yanda is a beast and needs to be retained, but unlike when we had to let Grubbs go, I will seriously miss K.O. because when healthy he is also a beast.

[BmoreB]

They'll both get resigned as Tucker is the only other player up for a new deal. Everyone else is locked up and I'm sure Joe will help the situation with a brand new deal. I plan on Joe banging on Steve B's desk.. "I did it again Steve ! Bonus time !"

[52liveforever]

Both resigning would be nice, but Yanda first. He is already second best Olineman in Ravens history behind J.O. and no signs of slowing down on a HOF Track with atleast 3 more dominant years as best Lineman in NFL. Ravens usually keep HOF Players only Ngata was let go and that hurt

 

There is a fair argument for keeping either over the other. I don't think there is necessarily a wrong choice here. I think it is really just going to come down to who is cheaper.

[January J]

This is what I like to hear! It won't be easy but it's do-able. I'm diggin the optimism eisenburg.

[January J]

I don't necessarily think Torrey was ascending. Im pretty sure he had become all he could be.

[TorryGundy]

"The Ravens always find a way to keep ‘ascending’ players"

 

McPhee, Ellerbe, Torrey... just to name a few.

 

No NFL organization can retain ALL of their ascending young talents. That's how the cap system works.

Totally agree its hard to keep ascending players however the three you named may not fall into that catagory. Ellerbe did nothing in Miami and was a waste of money, McPhee was a situational player who could not on his best day beat out Sizzle and Doom, and Torrey in my opinion is what he will be at this point. These were players that were put in a good place to show off there talents but far from players in Yanda's caliber or Ko.

[BmoreBird22]

1.) They don't consider said Ravens players "ascending players"?

2.) They think there are NFL organizations that can - and do - keep all their "ascending players", in spite of the cap space

 

 

 

He probably should have worded it better to be "keep the ascending players of necessity". For example. McPhee was more of a luxury since he didn't start with Suggs, Dumervil, and Upshaw here. Sure, he'd get an expanded role if Upshaw walks (which I don't see happening), but he's still behind some very talented players. With Ellerbe, what did he do with the Dolphins? Nothing. The Ravens know they're a factory for inside linebackers and Daryl Smith did more than adequate to fill in and they had Josh Bynes and Jameel McClain to man the Will for that year, so they didn't need to bend over backwards to pay Ellerbe. And as far as Torrey goes, he wasn't ascending. He was pretty much what he was at that point and the Ravens obviously felt that they could land someone better in the draft. 

 

In the situation of Yanda or Osemele, it's far more important to keep one of those two, if not both, because there's a chance that Urschel is viewed as the center of the future and if that's the case and both Yanda and Osemele walk, you're still out a right guard if Zuttah slides into LG and you're still out a RG if Zuttah stays at center. The replacement plan is thinner here.

[Rants N Ravens]

I sure hope he's right.

[Rants N Ravens]

Name one Ravens FA "who got away" outside of Priest Holmes who went on to do way bigger-n-better things than they did with the Ravens prior to departing?

Thought so...

[January J]

Name one Ravens FA "who got away" outside of Priest Holmes who went on to do way bigger-n-better things than they did with the Ravens prior to departing?Thought so...

the only guy I was legitamently upset about losing was Anquan- but he didn't really go on to do bigger things either. Ozzie always seems to know when it's time to let go.

[Bandit666]

With Urschel waiting in the wing, unfortunately one will go. Unless the Ravens can get some kind of home team discount. That will be next year's problem, we have them both this year so lets concentrate on winning SB 50.

[stixfix69]

Flacco's restructure could go along way in keeping both....

[sami]

If you notice when ever we let one of those "asending" players go due to salary, we always happen to have a capable young replacement waiting on the sideline.

[harfordravenfan]

Flacco's restructure could go along way in keeping both....

Would be sweet if flacco restructured in a way to allow both to be kept

[harfordravenfan]

If you notice when ever we let one of those "asending" players go due to salary, we always happen to have a capable young replacement waiting on the sideline.

Like perriman replacing torrey?

[RavensBaltimore]

"The Ravens always find a way to keep ‘ascending’ players"

 

McPhee, Ellerbe, Torrey... just to name a few.

 

No NFL organization can retain ALL of their ascending young talents. That's how the cap system works.

Only Ellerbe has played another season after being let go, and he did not appear to be ascending in Miami. Torrey has been the same player all 4 years in the league, so I wouldn't call him an ascending player, and I'm not sure Mcphee will ever be more than a part time player. The fact that all the examples you came up with were kind of a reach validates Eisenberg's point.

[GENE2407]

You don't let the young guy go. Osemele will play every year of his new contract. Yanda? Maybe. He'll be 35 or 36 in his last year. I'm much more comfortable going forward with Osemele.

[January J]

Like perriman replacing torrey?

perriman was no guarentee though- however I guess we would have drafted a receiver at some point in the draft regardless , but we didn't "already" have his replacement , we just knew that there would be plenty of receivers in the draft to choose from. If we didn't get a first or second round receiver what are the odds we would have picked up a guy like Andre Johnson? We pretty much had to grab one early in the draft ..or find somebody that could stretch the feild. Edited July 26, 2015 by January J