[News] Late For Work 7/16: Stephen Gostkowski Deal Sets Market For Justin Tucker

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Bryant, Thomas EACH paid as much as ALL Ravens WRs. Ravens No. 24 on Forbes list. S Miles joins Giants.

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[MichaelJ34]

I seriously didnt know Kickers made that much money Wow guess Tuck is going to get PAID!

[boldtown]

i don't see tucker staying unless he gets franchise tagged. I see denver or indy in his future maybe even a ny team so he can do some singing cameos on broadway.

[#20=DA MAN!!]

Tucker is not going anywhere, that may seem like alot of money but there are some players you pay top dollar for and that is tuck, if we have a chance to keep the best player at his position then why not pay top dollar?? We did it with JO, Ray, Ed, Ngata, and Suggs. So why would tuck be any different? His touchbacks and clutch near automatic kicks are a valueable part of our game. Our opponents are consistently having to drive the field because of field position.

Second rant, damnit Dallas and Denver!!! They have made it nearly impossible to keep a bonafide #1 WR beyond their rookie deals AND keep a competitive team. But I guess both teams will be rebuilding within the next 3 years so i guess they have to pay someone. But if Perriman becomes a top 5 WR then in 2019-20 hes gonna command 20 mil a year at the rate they are going now because next year Julio and AJ will top both dez and DT. We cant have a 22 mil QB, 12-15 mil WR, 12 mil G, two 10-12 mil DE/OLB, 12 mil CB...OMG i hate the freaking salary cap...lol...thank God we have the great and powerful Ozzie who knows how to draft because we would not be as competitive if not for his masterful offseason moves.

Rant over....56 days!!!!

[MichaelJ34]

Wonder if we can get a deal for Tuck Yanda and KO

[ravenmaniac1123]

JTuck certainly deserves to be the highest paid kicker. He is a threat from 60 yards and in, not to mention the field position we get with his kickoffs. I read the other day that our opponents average field position following kickoffs was the 19 yard line. That's pretty cool.

[Crusader]

I don't see Tucker leaving. He will get a good deal but not insane. Tucker invest his money by the time he retires he still will have more than Thomas and Bryant.

[fusuymada]

"His client became the second-fastest kicker in NFL history to reach the 400-point milestone, doing so in his 48th game." I don't know if I can make my argument in this space. I commented previously about Flacco being a product of the system. He is not a 4000 yard/year passer because of the conservative system the Ravens play in. The same conservative system, where we run first and pass second. We run consistently in the first 3 quarters, we run when we are ahead and we run when we want to burn the clock. The same reason Joe is not a 4000 yard/year passer is the same reason Tucker is the second fastest kicker to 400 points. If we didn't have a conservative offense, we would be scoring and passing more meaning Tucker wouldn't be kicking so much and therefore not reaching these records. Is he good, absolutely, but like many Ravens players, when he leaves this system, will he have the same opportunities to score, the same opportunities to kick. I think Tucker is worth the same money Gostkowski got, absolutely, but we have great scouts who found Tucker and Ozzie knows when too much is too much and we will see whether the most important person, Ozzie, thinks he is worth it.

[rmcjacket23]

Tucker is not going anywhere, that may seem like alot of money but there are some players you pay top dollar for and that is tuck, if we have a chance to keep the best player at his position then why not pay top dollar?? We did it with JO, Ray, Ed, Ngata, and Suggs. So why would tuck be any different? His touchbacks and clutch near automatic kicks are a valueable part of our game. Our opponents are consistently having to drive the field because of field position. Second rant, damnit Dallas and Denver!!! They have made it nearly impossible to keep a bonafide #1 WR beyond their rookie deals AND keep a competitive team. But I guess both teams will be rebuilding within the next 3 years so i guess they have to pay someone. But if Perriman becomes a top 5 WR then in 2019-20 hes gonna command 20 mil a year at the rate they are going now because next year Julio and AJ will top both dez and DT. We cant have a 22 mil QB, 12-15 mil WR, 12 mil G, two 10-12 mil DE/OLB, 12 mil CB...OMG i hate the freaking salary cap...lol...thank God we have the great and powerful Ozzie who knows how to draft because we would not be as competitive if not for his masterful offseason moves. Rant over....56 days!!!!

I certainly doubt Julio gets a contract bigger than those two, mostly because of his injury history. Green has the potential to do so, but I doubt it.

 

If the contracts are higher, it will probably be by roughly whatever percentage the salary cap increases. So they may get maybe like 5% more, which isn't really significant. I doubt either eclipses $15M AAV.

[Crusader]

Then again Tucker wins more game than defense, play in more games, and gets paid like Matt Elam.

[RavensInNC]

I hope JTuck will give us a hometown discount. I am not saying that I want him getting pennies on the dollar but I don't want him taking up a good portion of the salary cap for someone who is on the field for only 5% of the game. Yes, he scores points and yes he has won a game or 2 just with his leg but there are 52 other guys on the team that play way more than he does.

 

He seems like an awesome guy to be around and a great teammate (did someone say Wolfpack?) and the best kicker in the league but lets be real about this position and the salary cap percentage that we should allocate to it.

 

Now if there wasn't a salary cap then we should pay him whatever he wants because he IS the best kicker in the league. Also he post great Instagram photos 

Edited July 16, 2015 by RavensInNC

[ajf3030]

fusuymada- I can't really agree with Tucker being a quote 'product of a system'. I mean, yea, the Ravens have never had an offense that scores the most touchdowns in the league. But that's about as far as you can go. There's no question that Tucker deserves to be the highest-paid kicker ever- if we played in a dome, there might be the tiniest bit of leverage- but we don't. He's the most accurate in NFL history, has one of the strongest legs the league as ever seen, he's been clutch, he's been consistent, almost automatic from inside 50, the only reason his percentage isn't higher is because he's set the bar so high for himself that Harbaugh sends him out for kicks that most teams don't even attempt unless it's in the last second of a half or game. And he's never missed an extra point, and he's never been hurt. The Ravens have absolutely zero leverage, which is fine with me, because he's the best kicker in the league and we should absolutely pay him.

[The Greek]

hopefully he and his agent are not too greedy. tucker is awesome but if he gets vinatieri $$ it does not help this team in the long run salary cap wise

[BmoreB]

Best part of this article, the 57 days pic. Getting closer !

[Crabcakes&Football]

That's Sam Koch money.

[RavensFootballFan]

Looks like Tucker will choose money over all else as he is obviously telling the world money is the only thing with money bags icons on his twitter post. I just hope they are able to work it out. We have many players who choose team over money by meeting in the middle and while Tucker will get paid without a doubt, just hope his asking price will not turn off the Ravens.

[AsianRice]

I don't think Ozzie will match Tucker's deal with Gostkowski's deal, but he will surely make it as close it as possible; however, Tucker is totally deserved the big pay day. His alone winning game FG in Miles Highs is enough to make a statement for his new deal.....

[Slysam88]

JTuck is a heck of a kicker, pay the man

[ellicottraven]

Gostkowski has done it over 9 yrs for the Patriots. He got rewarded for it. Tucker while really good hasn't done it for as long as Gostkowski so I wouldn't think he would top his salary but get close to that benchmark. If Tucker gets 5 yrs 19-20 MM with 8MM guaranteed he should jump at it and sign instead of holding out imho.

[ravens4life86]

Two things... Get Tucker done, along with Yanda. Second, Bmore Beatdown saying Dum might hold out. Ridiculous. One Houston has been the best Pure Pass Rusher last couple years outside JJ Watt. Meanwhile Dum is good but he is inconsistent. One average year 9.5 sacks, one great year 17 sacks. Now if he goes out there and eclipses 20 sacks this year after a 17 sack season... And do like Watt and Houston do...then he can say something about deserving more.

[Halshayeji]

Tucker is not going anywhere, that may seem like alot of money but there are some players you pay top dollar for and that is tuck, if we have a chance to keep the best player at his position then why not pay top dollar?? We did it with JO, Ray, Ed, Ngata, and Suggs. So why would tuck be any different? His touchbacks and clutch near automatic kicks are a valueable part of our game. Our opponents are consistently having to drive the field because of field position. Second rant, damnit Dallas and Denver!!! They have made it nearly impossible to keep a bonafide #1 WR beyond their rookie deals AND keep a competitive team. But I guess both teams will be rebuilding within the next 3 years so i guess they have to pay someone. But if Perriman becomes a top 5 WR then in 2019-20 hes gonna command 20 mil a year at the rate they are going now because next year Julio and AJ will top both dez and DT. We cant have a 22 mil QB, 12-15 mil WR, 12 mil G, two 10-12 mil DE/OLB, 12 mil CB...OMG i hate the freaking salary cap...lol...thank God we have the great and powerful Ozzie who knows how to draft because we would not be as competitive if not for his masterful offseason moves. Rant over....56 days!!!!

Agree! I can't even imagine tucker leaving. Especially when you have a head coach with special teams pedegree;) I hope our FO gives this guy a ton of guaranteed money up front to keep his cap hit low because he's the closest thing to a sure bet given his age and position he plays.

Perriman is a first rounder meaning the Ravens have the option to keep him for a fifth year. By that time if he demands top money then we would have had a very good WR for 5 years for a fraction of his market price. Tickle me to death if that happens in 5 years "demanding top money" as il be the first one to say "damn that sucks but thank you for your service and good luck wherever you go" unless if he stays in the division lol

[Halshayeji]

So many valid points. Tucker is a stud! Best close range kicker in the history of the game! Best extra point taker for the future with this new weird rule. Best clutch kicker we've had for a while. Touchback machine. And here's what I love about him the most..... The guy is nasty! He really protects our blind side better than any kicker in this game.

Dear moderators. May we pleeeeeeease have a video of Tucker's tackles. And a statistic of how many points he's saved us?

[Bohica5]

Dumervil is toast after this year,he's not getting anywhere near houston money......And Tuck will be tagged next year then we draft the kid from Texas that's booming those 80yarders all day long......

[rmcjacket23]

Agree! I can't even imagine tucker leaving. Especially when you have a head coach with special teams pedegree;) I hope our FO gives this guy a ton of guaranteed money up front to keep his cap hit low because he's the closest thing to a sure bet given his age and position he plays.

Perriman is a first rounder meaning the Ravens have the option to keep him for a fifth year. By that time if he demands top money then we would have had a very good WR for 5 years for a fraction of his market price. Tickle me to death if that happens in 5 years "demanding top money" as il be the first one to say "damn that sucks but thank you for your service and good luck wherever you go" unless if he stays in the division lol

Giving a guy a ton of guaranteed money up front won't make his cap hit smaller. It could make it smaller in the first season or two (like Flacco), but that just means he has bigger hits in future years with large amounts of dead money.

 

Doesn't really benefit the Ravens to do that.

[stuckonaboat13]

Tucker will be tagged and then walk the next year . The team has more pressing needs where that money could go. Lots of solid young kickers in college, not so many seasoned and pro bowl guards/outsidelinbackers

[hen826957]

@Bohica5 Did Dumervil even said he want Houston money? I don't believe he said that. He older for that type of contract.

[rmcjacket23]

Tucker will be tagged and then walk the next year . The team has more pressing needs where that money could go. Lots of solid young kickers in college, not so many seasoned and pro bowl guards/outsidelinbackers

While that may be true, history shows us that the Ravens have had zero issue finding high quality interior lineman in the draft, particularly in the mid rounds.

[EvilWayz]

I'm all for a player getting his deal or whatever. I think Justin will get a great contract when that time comes. The guy is very dependable and a kicking machine. My thing is this not a contest of who can be the highest paid, but paying your guy for the work he's done, the dependability, the dedication, the teammate, and the great quality of production you know this guy is capable of.

I don't know where this plague came from that we have make people the highest paid this and that. The team that has spread money around, building a team as a whole, addressing the issues. Rather than overpaying some guy who hasn't produced since he's been on the team, and can't address the real issues at hand prime example, St. Louis Rams.(Sam Bradford).

Lets look at the Detroit Lions, Calvin Johnson is great at what he does, the highest paid receiver in the NFL. They just got one of our boys in Ngata, but how many times have the Lions gone to the playoffs.

The Dallas Cowboys paid Dez and Congrats to him, but had he not threatened to hold out, and played for that 750,000 dollars a game, the following season he would've been the highest paid receiver in the league. I know he's a great player, but how many times have the Dallas Cowboys gone the playoffs in the last 5 years.

All I'm saying is we know you guys are great players and deserve to be paid for your efforts. I'm just saying where is the love and passion for the game. When you can't rebuild the following season, because we now have no money, because we invested everything we have in one player.

We have made the playoffs one in the last 7 years. We had a struggle last season with the injury coming to visit our secondary, but we still got in. It wasn't pretty but we got in. We have had that success because we believe in team not one guy. Its al about team, not because some dude is the highest paid. I'll put it like this, you ca be highest paid running back in the NFL, but w/o someone blocking for you, all that money is going toward hospital bills. You don't have to be the highest paid guy to get a good contract and be able to live a great life.

I wish Justin Tucker the best and I hope they are able to reach good deal that's going to make both parties happy.

[dcapettini]

$4.4 mil isn't bad for a guy who scores as well as Tucker. Remember we are wasting $9.5 mil this year alone on Ray Rice "dead money". Since Tucker's leg isn't quite as stout as Gostkowski, the Ravens can probably get him a little cheaper too.

[JoeyFlex5]

$4.4 mil isn't bad for a guy who scores as well as Tucker. Remember we are wasting $9.5 mil this year alone on Ray Rice "dead money". Since Tucker's leg isn't quite as stout as Gostkowski, the Ravens can probably get him a little cheaper too.

tuckers leg is superior to gostkowski. we have put much more weight on his shoulders than the patriots have done to gostkowski, and he has responded to the biggest, most nerveracking, and impossible moments with great results, and this is all at such a young age while gostkowski has been around the block for quite some time now. 

 

tucker > gostkowski and he deserves to get paid like it too. id be ok with giving tucker 5mil per year for the next 5 seasons, he is part of this teams identity, we are known for being a dangerous squad in crunch time, and that is because joe flacco can get it to the 40 yard line more often than not, and tucker can bang the 57 yard buzzer beater with his eyes closed. he is a weapon and letting him walk would be a huge mistake by the ravens