[News] Late For Work 7/15: Next 7 Items On Ozzie Newsome's Contract To-Do List

[trevorsteadman]

"Yanda will go down as one of the best offensive linemen in Ravens history (behind Jonathan Ogden), he's showing no signs of decline at 30 years old..." Not true. He injured his shoulder in 2012 and was diminished towards the end of the season and had offseason shoulder surgery and his 2013 season was less than stellar. Pro-bowl or not, we know that is a name game not a talent game and he certainly was far less than a pro bowl that year. I love Yanda but lets not kid ourselves. He is older, has had injury 0oncerns but to say he shows no sign of decline simply disregards the 2013 season. Yanda is well loved and I know this isn't a popular position but KO is a better investment and wont be near as expensive.

Yanda was the 2nd best rated player by PFF the ENTIRE last season. Only behind JJ Watt. He is the best guard in the league. I think I would rather take my chance with Yanda for 5 years because of his consistent track record when healthy. I hope they find a way to keep Osemele though...

[J.O.14]

"Yanda will go down as one of the best offensive linemen in Ravens history (behind Jonathan Ogden), he's showing no signs of decline at 30 years old..." Not true. He injured his shoulder in 2012 and was diminished towards the end of the season and had offseason shoulder surgery and his 2013 season was less than stellar. Pro-bowl or not, we know that is a name game not a talent game and he certainly was far less than a pro bowl that year. I love Yanda but lets not kid ourselves. He is older, has had injury 0oncerns but to say he shows no sign of decline simply disregards the 2013 season. Yanda is well loved and I know this isn't a popular position but KO is a better investment and wont be near as expensive.

Disagree with all of this. Yanda graded out as the best pass blocking guard in 2012 and one of the overall best for the year. He tore his rotator cuff which required surgery (which he played with) and couldn't prepare for the season the way he wanted. Also, look who was playing around Yanda in 2013. He still graded out positive with around 10 something. Not bad. Then he comes back healthy and again proves that he is the best in the league. He is consistent, definition of tough, and isn't showing any decline. Even if he does, he is still a above average starter. If he was showing signs of decline, he wouldn't have bounced back and have the year he had. Injuries happen. This dude had emergency surgery on his leg and still played that Sunday. We need to make Yanda a Raven for life.

[757RavensFan]

Class act what they did for Julian Wilson. Making $300k to rehab. The way it reads, makes you wonder if they have him slotted to replace Webb in 2 years.

[757RavensFan]

Making a 61 yarder to win the game on Monday Night Football is more impressive

 

Wishing he had the opportunity to do the same thing vs San Diego last season.  

[Postapocalypse Raven]

One thing that can be said about Jah Reid for sure is that he's far more likely to have a headache as opposed to being one.

[cobrajet]

Dez has always been full of major drama, even when it comes to catching balls in the playoffs.

[cobrajet]

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Upshaw. He is a very underrated player and a BIG part of what we do. Just saying.

I agree, in short yardage run situations, I want Upshaw on the field.

[The Mom Gene]

That was lucky.... and probably with the wind... Tucker knows... that's why a little reaction.

[BmoreBird22]

I agree that it is too much money to ask for but watching him play he really is great. I honestly think that he is part of the reason Peyton has actually done well these last couple years... He has been declining. Manning has always had great receivers. He had Harrison who was already great, Wayne who was still good the year after he left but he is getting up in age now, Dallas Clark in his prime.... Then all his weapons he has had in Denver. Honestly he was placed in the best places possible throughout his career to put up those big stats... I think that Brees is better. I think Manning is good but when people say he is the best ever I cannot stand it. Demarius should make around 12 million I think he is the best receiver in the AFC. 

Thomas is definitely a YAC machine. He is really consistent on those screens and slants. Just makes a guy miss and goes. I think it's a mutual relationship. Manning is definitely benefiting from Thomas being able to turn a screen into an 80 yard touchdown, but Manning is also the master of audibles and setting his receivers up for the best possible match up. With that said, $15 million is too much, but I guarantee some team will throw it at them if the Broncos and Cowboys don't. 

[BmoreBird22]

That was lucky.... and probably with the wind... Tucker knows... that's why a little reaction.

Well, that and it's on a stand, so the hold is automatically perfect, he's not in pads to limit any body movement, and he doesn't have to rush the kick for fear of a leaping lineman or a rush. The thing with kicks this long is that they won't ever happen in a game because it's going to get blocked literally every single time. Can multiple kickers kick it 80+ yards? Sure can. We see it every single day on kickoffs when some kickers sail it out of the end zone. That's 75+ yards right there. However, if they want to kick it that far, the trajectory at the point of impact is going to be lower, low enough that a lineman with his hands up will block it. That's why you'll never see a PAT blocked, but as you back it up, blocks become more likely. It's the height at which it's kicked. It's really actually silly to give that story any publicity.

[BmoreBird22]

"Yanda will go down as one of the best offensive linemen in Ravens history (behind Jonathan Ogden), he's showing no signs of decline at 30 years old..." Not true. He injured his shoulder in 2012 and was diminished towards the end of the season and had offseason shoulder surgery and his 2013 season was less than stellar. Pro-bowl or not, we know that is a name game not a talent game and he certainly was far less than a pro bowl that year. I love Yanda but lets not kid ourselves. He is older, has had injury 0oncerns but to say he shows no sign of decline simply disregards the 2013 season. Yanda is well loved and I know this isn't a popular position but KO is a better investment and wont be near as expensive.

So you think a Yanda on the decline would be less expensive than 26 year old KO on the decline? I really don't follow your logic...

[Crusader]

"Would You Trade Jah Reid For Dez Bryant?" NO Way, Jah is not great but he is also not trouble. "As Buck S says "I like our Guys"

[Postapocalypse Raven]

As for this 80-yrd FG... Spectacular, indeed - but says precious little. Why would it be "Tucker's turn"? Why would he have to prove he can do it? It's a neat trick that has no practical implications of what a kicker can do for the team in real game situation - because no coach ever will attempt a FG from 80 yards in a real game - especially with someone with Flacco's cannon arm in the lineup...

 

Also... 80 yards, fine. Now let's compare the stats. Who would you want to kick for your NFL-team: someone who has once made a 80-yard FG in practice, or one who has proven over the years that he will reliably make his FG's within 52-53 yards on a regular basis?

 

So, Ryan, sorry, but it's not "Tucker's turn". Even if it turns out that this young guy didn't need dozens of tries to make this one FG - which we will never know. It will still make it no more one spectacular, but lucky effort - something irrelevant in the NFL.

Wow...  Take things seriously much bio?   This might be a long shot but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Ryan's comment was just a tiny bit more lighthearted than your post suggests.

[Postapocalypse Raven]

I disagree. Yanda over KO. Just they like when they let Grubbs bolt, KO is probably the odd man out.

They let Grubbs go because Yanda signed his contract first. It could have very easily been the other way around had Grubbs signed his contract first. Whoever doesn't sign first is probably the odd man out.

[Drew P]

They let Grubbs go because Yanda signed his contract first. It could have very easily been the other way around had Grubbs signed his contract first. Whoever doesn't sign first is probably the odd man out.

 

Not sure about that it had more to do with Grubbs getting his butt handed to him against Wilfork in the playoffs

[Postapocalypse Raven]

And just in case anybody forgot here's Tucker's "pick me" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTZhdFGFJX0.

 

Your turn Nick Rose.

[cbrook1862]

This is how I feel on the not drafting Dez Bryant thing: In the great words of Craig's daddy from Friday "You win some, you lose some, but you live to fight another day." We might of missed out on Dez, one of the best wr's in the league, but we picked up some pretty good players along the way, and this team has done pretty well for themselves, that's how I look at it, that's how Ozzie looks at it, and that's how you all should look at it.

[Postapocalypse Raven]

Not sure about that it had more to do with Grubbs getting his butt handed to him against Wilfork in the playoffs

I'm sure about it, and unfortunately history will probably repeat itself once again. Whoever doesn't sign first will probably be the odd man out. Besides, if we were getting rid of guys because they had a bad game against Vince Wilfork then we wouldn't have kept Matt Birk as long as we did.

[Postapocalypse Raven]

This is how I feel on the not drafting Dez Bryant thing: In the great words of Craig's daddy from Friday "You win some, you lose some, but you live to fight another day." We might of missed out on Dez, one of the best wr's in the league, but we picked up some pretty good players along the way, and this team has done pretty well for themselves, that's how I look at it, that's how Ozzie looks at it, and that's how you all should look at it.

The only thing we missed out on by not being able to pick Dez is a bunch of drama. I'd say we won that one.

[L.A.Ravens]

The 80 yrd kick was with the wind, you can hear it in the video. Not impressed

[L.A.Ravens]

-3 on me saying Upshaw shouldn't be resigned over yanda, hill, or tucker. We can't afford all of them so I didn't include him to be re signed when we have a lot of good players at OLB. If Upshaw is asking for a big payday then next man up.

[L.A.Ravens]

Happy we didn't get Dez he's a punk same with D.Thomas. Those two teams will be in cap hell after this year. There franchise's future doesn't look bright. Ravens do tho!

[RavensBaltimore]

"Yanda will go down as one of the best offensive linemen in Ravens history (behind Jonathan Ogden), he's showing no signs of decline at 30 years old..." Not true. He injured his shoulder in 2012 and was diminished towards the end of the season and had offseason shoulder surgery and his 2013 season was less than stellar. Pro-bowl or not, we know that is a name game not a talent game and he certainly was far less than a pro bowl that year. I love Yanda but lets not kid ourselves. He is older, has had injury 0oncerns but to say he shows no sign of decline simply disregards the 2013 season. Yanda is well loved and I know this isn't a popular position but KO is a better investment and wont be near as expensive.

So if someone gets injured, it means they are declining? Are you aware that younger players get hurt too? The fact that Yanda was rated as the best offensive lineman in the league last year says he's not slowing down. He may have had the best season of his career last year, which is the opposite of declining.

[dorie80]

With the Gostowski signing I have a new found hope to sign Tucker

[52liveforever]

that wasn't ray Lewis's final season. just sayin

[Drew P]

I'm sure about it, and unfortunately history will probably repeat itself once again. Whoever doesn't sign first will probably be the odd man out. Besides, if we were getting rid of guys because they had a bad game against Vince Wilfork then we wouldn't have kept Matt Birk as long as we did.

 

It doesnt make sense to build a team based on their agents ability to dash to the barganing table lol ..im pretty sure it starts at performance

[#20=DA MAN!!]

that wasn't ray Lewis's final season. just sayin

yes it was it was the 3rd game of the season, right after Torrey Smith's  brother was killed. When bilicheat grabbed the refs and didnt get fined for that either. Thats the game he used to convince the league to extend the uprights of the field goal posts. 

[The Mom Gene]

Well, that and it's on a stand, so the hold is automatically perfect, he's not in pads to limit any body movement, and he doesn't have to rush the kick for fear of a leaping lineman or a rush. The thing with kicks this long is that they won't ever happen in a game because it's going to get blocked literally every single time. Can multiple kickers kick it 80+ yards? Sure can. We see it every single day on kickoffs when some kickers sail it out of the end zone. That's 75+ yards right there. However, if they want to kick it that far, the trajectory at the point of impact is going to be lower, low enough that a lineman with his hands up will block it. That's why you'll never see a PAT blocked, but as you back it up, blocks become more likely. It's the height at which it's kicked. It's really actually silly to give that story any publicity.

And watching Tucker, I can tell you that I have thought that many times  "If the kicker can put it through the uprights on Kickoff, the league should give them a FG.  3 points.  I have said it many times. Other people have said it would be a good idea.  And actually when Tucker has done that (kicked it through the endzone, although I have never seen it go through the uprights), people in the bar have agreed with me. 

[The Mom Gene]

This is how I feel on the not drafting Dez Bryant thing: In the great words of Craig's daddy from Friday "You win some, you lose some, but you live to fight another day." We might of missed out on Dez, one of the best wr's in the league, but we picked up some pretty good players along the way, and this team has done pretty well for themselves, that's how I look at it, that's how Ozzie looks at it, and that's how you all should look at it.

I don't think we missed out on anything with Dez Bryant....  JMO.

[BmoreBird22]

And watching Tucker, I can tell you that I have thought that many times  "If the kicker can put it through the uprights on Kickoff, the league should give them a FG.  3 points.  I have said it many times. Other people have said it would be a good idea.  And actually when Tucker has done that (kicked it through the endzone, although I have never seen it go through the uprights), people in the bar have agreed with me. 

I think it'd be too easy unless they moved the kickoff back again, but they have that in arena football- the uno