[News] Late For Work 7/13: Who'll Have More Yards: Breshad Perriman Or Torrey Smith?

[BmoreBird22]

can we stop comparing an elite vet to an untested rookie. time will tell y'all

I really hope you don't mean Torrey...

[CQ1]

Don't really care who has more yards; whatever it takes as a TEAM to win

Actually, if your playing that card, in a perfect world- I would like to see Forsett run for 6,000, we would obviously win and the rest would be moot.

[MichaelJ34]

Win as a Team I dont care about individual stats. if we have 5 or 6 receivers that accumulate a lot of yardage and TDs so be it if Perriman doesnt have a big year compared to Smith so be it. All I care for is the WINS! With all of the weapons surrounding Joe and the strong defensive unit we are building and rebuilding the secondary we should find more Wins I am thinking 2-3 more from last year.

[52liveforever]

I just want joe to hit 4k. that is all

[huntrgathrr]

Perriman could easily surpass Smith's accomplishments. But it might not be what is best for the team. Trestman and Flacco will be spreading the ball around since we have 4-5 very good receivers. No sense being predictable when you don't have to.

After last years playoff humiliation, Ben, Bell and Brown know all the hype doesn't wash in Baltimore. The Ravens are 6-3 against the Steelers in the last 4 years so it's the Steelers that need to do the praying. Flacco is sporting a 10-4 playoff record since 2008 while Ben is 0-2 in the last 4 years. You would think the Steeler front office would have figured out by now that it takes a defense to win in December and January.

Let the sportswriters drool all they want over Big Ben et. al. My money says the Steelers will be home on the couch watching the Ravens play in January.

[dcapettini]

Whether Torrey has a good season in Santa Clara kind of depends on Boldin. If Boldin has a good year, Torrey wouldn't get much. You have to believe that the Niners think that he is more than a One Trick Pony, which is pretty much what Baltimore fans think. His best stat from last year is how many PIs he drew, not his catches. Perriman is noted for drops (sound familiar Torrey Smith fans?) and I don't suppose that he will completely shed that reputation. On the other hand, he may pick up as many PI calls as Torrey did, what with his speed and Flacco's arm. All things equal, Perriman is the better player but this year the odds favor Torrey.

 

[Tru11]

Whether Torrey has a good season in Santa Clara kind of depends on Boldin. If Boldin has a good year, Torrey wouldn't get much. You have to believe that the Niners think that he is more than a One Trick Pony, which is pretty much what Baltimore fans think. His best stat from last year is how many PIs he drew, not his catches. Perriman is noted for drops (sound familiar Torrey Smith fans?) and I don't suppose that he will completely shed that reputation. On the other hand, he may pick up as many PI calls as Torrey did, what with his speed and Flacco's arm. All things equal, Perriman is the better player but this year the odds favor Torrey.

 

his best stats last season where by far those 11 TDs.

thats 40% of flacco TDs right there lol

 

That was good for a shared #10 spot among all receivers including TE and such.

 

There where only 9 receivers who caught more TD then him and the difference with 8 of them was no more then 2 TD.

 

the next best person on the ravens was steve smith who had 6 TD.

 

BTW those 11 TDs are the #2 best mark in ravens history only behind michael jacksons 14 TD season which was in our first season in baltimore.

[20306cab]

Joe and Ben are both 10-5 in the playoffs. Ben has four more years.

[stampedehero]

For the $$$ he gets, the yards he will recieve.

[stampedehero]

his best stats last season where by far those 11 TDs.

thats 40% of flacco TDs right there lol

 

That was good for a shared #10 spot among all receivers including TE and such.

 

There where only 9 receivers who caught more TD then him and the difference with 8 of them was no more then 2 TD.

 

the next best person on the ravens was steve smith who had 6 TD.

 

BTW those 11 TDs are the #2 best mark in ravens history only behind michael jacksons 14 TD season which was in our first season in baltimore.

 

+> Tru,      Those stats are excellent Thanks

[trevorsteadman]

Torrey Smith will have both more yards and touchdowns. The Ravens have more wide receiver depth and the Ravens offense is set up where it is a well rounded offense which is why late in the season when chemistry comes into play the offense seems to be on a whole new level because they spread the ball to everyone. San Fransisco has no defense right now, so I bet they will be playing a lot of games from behind which means a lot of passes... Also if Vernon Davis does not return to his old form then the only weapon on the 49ers offense is AnQuan Boldin. It's almost like they are trying to recreate the offense that beat them in the Super Bowl a couple years back.

[757RavensFan]

can we stop comparing an elite vet to an untested rookie. time will tell y'all

 

e·lite; -

a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities

 

 

 

Torrey???  Uhh, no!

[Tenacious Faulker]

can we stop comparing an elite vet to an untested rookie. time will tell y'all

As much hope that I had for Torrey to become elite, he certainly fell short of that expectation and was only a good #2 receiver.  He never came close to elite status.

 

Perriman on the other hand has a strong opportunity to become an elite rookie (time will tell if he is ever an elite receiver).  Firstly he has Joe in his 8th season.  He was still honng his professional skills by 2011 when Torrey arrived.  Even then he wen to Torrey 6 times against the Steelers with the deep abll in the week 9 win over the Steelers (our 1st in the Harbaugh/Flacco era) and Torrey made one impact catch for a TD.  That pretty much forecasted his NFL career.  

 

Second, he has Trestman in his first season.  Remember how he used Alshon Jeffery in Chicago?  Under Trestman he had 1421 and 1133 yards in consecutive seasons with 10 TDs combined.  Torrey had Cam Cameron who was all about a measured, low-risk approach.  However under Kubiak, Torreyy did eclipse the 10 TD mark and drew more PI penalty yards than anyone in 2014.  I expect that Trestman and Joe will make Perriman look similar to Jeffery.

 

Third, Perriman is amore complete receiver coming out of college.  On another thread I posted highlites of their college performance and you can see a world of difference.  Torrey has a very limited catch radius whereas Perriman extends, high points and fights for every ball in his direction.  Watch Torrey's highlites in the NFL and you'll see that he still mostly relied on Joe to put in his hands.  The concern of Perriman's drops are overblown.  Smith Sr. had the 3rd most drops last season and Torrey had 7 but we barely discussed that.  IF Perriman has 10 drops like Senior did, but cracks the 1000 yard marker I don't think there is any cause for concern then.   

 

Fourth, circumstance will play a major factor.  There is a log jam at reciver now moreso than what what Torrey dealt with.  That is not necessarily a bad thing for Perriman tho'.  The pressure is off Perriman with Marlon Brown, Kamar Aiken and even Darren Waller looking like reliable #2's in their own right.  But since Perriman is the 2015 1st round pick he will get his game time reps.  Like Torrey he is looking like the defacto #2 receiver.  However, it took Torrey a few weeks to truly be Joe's #2 receiver.  Perriman is poised to actually be that early on BUT ACTUALLY has the potential to become the #1 over Smith Sr. at some point this season.  Torrey finally got that role in 2013 (3rd season) and seemed more like an elite #2 or boarderline #1 in that role.   

[January J]

you're way too caught up on that, that wasnt the point. I was just illustrating that 840 yards is not the fantasmic feat you make it out to be. Posting 840 by week 9 was obviously a best case scenario, but again...not the point.

you saw "a lot" of starters, not "all starters."

John Brown was no starter, Riley Cooper was no starter, ALlen Hurns was no starter: Kenny Stills, Markus WHeaton, Wes Welker, Jericho Cotchery...plenty of non starters there dude, aint no gettin around that.

you asked for the last time a non starter posted 48 catches, i provided the answer with proof.

and now you're moving the gola posts. You said he would have to be a starter, not "start at some point."

Plus the list also does a great job of demonstrating that the reception count isnt every thing. Brandon Marshall had 61 cathces and only came out with 721 yards, for instance.

you can believe what you like, but that doesnt mean it will come to be.

We have yet another offensive coordinator who likes to put the ball in the air more than any of the previous holders of the job, and yet another void at Wide Receiver which could easily lead to another continuous rotation in the starting spot oppposite of Smith Senior depending on who stands out. All of who will be playing with a quarterback reaching the apex of his career and who now has one of the best o lines in the league to help.

There's a first time for everything, now's an excellent time for the whole Wideout corps to stand up for once, its easily the most talented overall group we've ever had.

I agree that there's a first time for everything . Too often do ppl rely on past statistics etc. and act like it's always going up repeat itself. The time is now.

[NUM4TIC]

I agree that there's a first time for everything . Too often do ppl rely on past statistics etc. and act like it's always going up repeat itself. The time is now.

 

Are you insane? No but really enough has changed for the reults to change. I still think the year is 2016. Not that the year I'm living in is 2016. Would be nice to get one more before K.O. potentially leaves. Man needs a good healthy year. As long as the Oline holds and the secondary improves, it should be a good year. Think there might be a turn table style running game. For some reason i just think there's gonna be three running backs used in high frequency. To me that could either open the doors of being predictable or slam them shut. 3 backs that are good at everything could be a deadly thing especially when it comes into to calculating what plays are ran with each back. Although simplicity can be the greatest trick of all.

[RavenManiac#7]

Ed Reed over Derrick Mason. And as for Perriman vs Torrey having the better year. I think there's too many variables to fairly compare. First, and foremost, you're comparing a rookie wr to a ,what, 4 year veteran? Not really fair. Second, I think Joe's the better QB, but, still, different QBs, so not a fair comparison again. It would probably be more fair to compare Perriman's year this year to Torrey's rookie year. Compare Those stats. Same QB, same league adjustment, more fair. Just one fan's opinion.

[cbrook1862]

I don't really know who will have better rookie year stats, I do think Perriman is and will be a better all-around receiver than Smith, but we've never had this many weapons before and haven't had this big of a chance to spread the ball out. All i'm looking for out of Perriman in his first season is to catch everything thrown his way and make the most out of his opportunities when targeted, I just want him to do whatever's asked of him.

[NNITRED]

I could care less about having a "elite" wideout. Boldin wasn't elite and neither was Torrey but they helped get us win and get a ring . Sr. isn't elite he had several horrible games last season including a 2yarder against the Chargers but but we overlook that. Stats are fantasy junkies and reporters that think everything is about a number. Wins are real and sometimes the guys most responsible don't glow on paper or stay in the highlight reel

s. Our QB is a prime example.