[News] Late For Work 7/13: Who'll Have More Yards: Breshad Perriman Or Torrey Smith?

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[MichaelJ34]

Best of the Best RD2.... REEEEED by a long shot and Perriman may have more yards because he has all the skill sets that it took Torrey 4 years to get add in the fact that Kaepernick(sp) is a runner Torrey may not get much looks. Joe will be throwing mostly and running when he absolutely has to so Perriman will get looks and chances to make plays

[eek]

Why no mention that torrey will line up against 3 of the best secondary's twice a year (ironically SF is the weakest in the NFC west)

[MDpgRaven]

Torrey may have more yards this year. But flacco ints are dropping because he won't have Torrey quitting on routes.

[balfan23]

Smith is a relatively high-paid vet and Perriman is a rookie. It would stand to reason that Smith should outperform Perriman. It isn't about Perriman replacing Smith - it is about our WR group that lines up in Smith's place providing better production than Smith did last year. I predict they will.

[stixfix69]

I really think Perriman will be worked into the line-up, and he has the luxury to do so with the depth we have...The biggest thing about the WR position isn't route running, and just catching the ball, they have to learn how to read defenses, when to break a route off, being on the same page as the QB, and that can only come from experience....If you really want a fair comparison see where Perriman is at after 4 years, and compare it to Torrey's first 4 years...

[salamander]

It's more likely that Torrey could have more individual receiving yards because Perriman is a rookie, may not start in the beginning, etc. I really could care less about who has more. What I do care about and hope for is that the ball is spread around among this talented group of WRs, TEs and even RB's to maximize our ability to create confusion and coverage nightmares for the defenses we face. Our success will be based more on collective team yards rather than an individual or 2 racking up huge numbers.

Edited July 14, 2015 by salamander

[roamingcharges]

Torrey may have more yards this year. But flacco ints are dropping because he won't have Torrey quitting on routes.

As much as I liked (or like) Torrey Smith the man, I didn't really think he had the mental make-up to be your number one guy catching the ball. Torrey sorely lacked that mean streak, the mindset that the ball in the air is his and he won't be denied or bullied... Torrey came across as the guy who would shrug off a loss and tell the rest of the guys it's not the end of the world... and it isn't quite frankly. I just want a bunch of guys who take losses a bit harder than the average guy.

[fusuymada]

From the Ravens standpoint, and my standpoint also, the real thing to watch is yards/dollar spent. Yes, wouldn't it be great if Perriman matched T Smith in production but we are talking about a 5 year vet and comparing him to an unproven commodity. I am sure it wasn't T Smiths production that held the Ravens back from signing him, it was the dollar figure. So tying yards to dollars is a fair comparison between Smith and Perriman or comparing Perrimans numbers to Torreys rookie year.

[MichaelJ34]

I will say this though personal success isnt so much the Ravens way... It has pretty much about the Team success which If Perriman doesnt have a many yards as Torrey Then so be it as long as the other men playing on offense and defense and even special teams get us WINS! I would love to see us run rampant through the AFCN and through the NFL on our way to SB #3 by way of a #1 seed in the playoffs so Fans can watch the greatest franchise right from the home stadium.

[FastEddie]

Need to see what happens in training camp. If Perriman buckles down and learns all the plays, I think he will give Torrey a run for his money year one

 

Can we start talking about Flacco holding private camps with his new weapons now?

[budman]

Perriman will only have more yards than Torrey IF he becomes a starter, and that has not been determined yet, and won't be until after Training Camp. The Ravens have always been on point for putting the best player on the field come game day regardless of their draft position. I'm not saying he won't start, but he has his work cut out for him. I wish them all luck.

[nevermorebmore]

Why no mention that torrey will line up against 3 of the best secondary's twice a year (ironically SF is the weakest in the NFC west)

 

I'm glad you brought this up. There are lots of factors that limit an equal comparison between the two receivers - division matches being one. Torrey is also walking into a new head coach and the potential bust that comes with that situation. If Torrey was heading into Jim Harbaugh's locker room, I think that he would have a better chance (despite the turmoil). Also, what's the state of the Niner's O-line and running game? Only rare talent receivers can take a team past flaws in the trenches.

 

Given the constellation of other factors, I think Perriman has more yards - not based on talent, that question remains unanswered - but purely based on situation. Ravens survived a post-Super bowl rebuild, Niners did not.

[riseNConquer81]

Perriman is a bigger, faster receiver with a better, less mobile quarterback...so Im gonna go with him.

[bioLarzen]

So tying yards to dollars is a fair comparison between Smith and Perriman or comparing Perrimans numbers to Torreys rookie year.

 

Good point - however, there are still so many things to consider... How do you - or anyone - get it into the equation, for example, that, as it turned out after the season, Torrey played half his rookie season with a sports hernia? Who knows how many catches he didn't make because of that?

 

... or, the D's and secondaries Torrey had to play against and Perriman will have to beat?

 

Also, Perriman will catch passes of a 4 years older and more experienced Flacco, who's protected by a much more efficient O-line than back in 2011. And the other guys in the supporting cast ar also different... as is the HC. Torrey had a much, much thinner competition at his position, whil Perriman seems to join the best and most crowded WR battle of recent Ravens memory... So, while it was relatively easy for Torrey to get snaps and catches, it seems more of a challenge for Perriman - for the crowded WR scene...

 

So, it's really hard to make a fair comparison when so many things are different...

[Drew P]

They need to stop the Bungles

[Tru11]

lets wait till perriman earns the starting job first.

[WNC-Raven]

I am excited for that first long bomb to Perriman where he burns the secondary and makes everybody jump to their feet.

Will he start, will he drop a few, I don't know but I know he will be exciting to watch as he develops into the player we all know he can be.

[riseNConquer81]

Why no mention that torrey will line up against 3 of the best secondary's twice a year (ironically SF is the weakest in the NFC west)

well Laurianitus and DunBarr arent really coverage backers, and Janoris Jenkins is the only DB i can name in the Rams secondary so i think this is a little hyperbolic to begin with.

Plus, Seattle doesnt move their guys, so you can hack their secondary, esepecially with Cary Williams on the left side now.

Plus Kaepernick is mobile, he can break the coverage down himself by running.

And we still gotta play Cleveland and Cincinatti.

Torrey's not getting it that rough compared to Breshad.

[steelcityraven]

The thing is.... we don't need Perriman to put up Calvin Johnson like numbers.... we have one of the best running games in the NFL.... a very good TE corps, another leading WR in SSS and a lot of solid role playing WR's who will contribute...plus RB's who will be a factor out of the backfield. If Perriman gives us a deep threat we are balanced enough to exploit defenses in many ways.... if we get 700 yards and 7 or 8 TD's out of him... he will be more valuable to us then Torrey will be to SF (if he produces 1000 yds and 8-9 TDs). In other words... they need Torrey to light it up... we need Perriman to be solid! (I like our situation better).

[riseNConquer81]

lets wait till perriman earns the starting job first.

why? you dont have to start to get yards. just makes it a little harder if you dont.

[steelcityraven]

I really do think with the sqeelers.... it is about stopping the run first and then getting pressure on Bigjen. If we stop the run HasBen will make a mistake (as he always does) and give us the game...he is too much of a glory hound at this point to beat us consistently.... Ben wants the glory and therefore makes mistakes by forcing bad plays -trying to be the hero... Make them one dimensional and then put pressure on him. His goal to get on ESPN will eventually cost them the game again vs us!

[steelcityraven]

Truth is.... Kapernick seems to be a choker.... He (they) may put up big numbers but they wont win when it counts... I would rather have Joe-Perriman-etc. and maybe not have the fantasy football numbers but be willing to sacrifice that stuff for winning! Plus.... I do think without the other Harbs and the way they ran him out ... they could be setting on a collapse this year (even with all the talent they have)!

[ellicottraven]

Torrey may not have had all the route running skills of #1 WRs, but he had great character and exceptional deep running abilities. As for Perriman, it is too early to tell. If he's all he is touted to be and the fact that our front office chose him, I would venture to say he'll be our first WR choice who ends up being a WR 1. He is faster, more complete WR than Torrey at the start of his career. If he shows the dedication and hard work of Torrey, he'll easily escel him and help Flacco achieve greatness.

[L.A.Ravens]

Torrey ran a 4.45 at his combine and pro day. Breshad ran a 4.24 and 4.27. and we all thought torrey was fast. Breshad is going to be nasty good. compare the two coming out of college at training camp... Breshad > Torrey. Perriman is going to be a star in this league.

[L.A.Ravens]

One of my favorite movies is Predator. Breshad Perriman looks like predator. lol #loosethebenie

[January J]

Not expecting perriman to do it all his first year. Would be a more fair comparison to see if he tops Torrey's yards from his rookie year.

[Kwilliams84]

Torrey will have more yards only because they only have t.smith, boldin and v.davis, we have breshad, steve smith, m. brown, aiken, maxx williams, gilmore, pitta? buck catches out of back fied and trusman loves throwing screens so we have way more weapons.

[bigcatfrank1]

Looking for Perriman, Brown and Aikin to easily make up for he loss of Torrey's yards. It may be any one of these 3 that earn as many yards individually, however this is a team effort that allows Joe to have many targets...it will be a team accomplishment! Good luck Torrey I wish you well and success.

[L.J.50]

From my stand point, Hes BIG,FASTER, and a BETTER prospect. 6'0/6'2, 202/218, 4.45/4.24