Ravens All Time Worst Players

[K-Dog]

Yeah. It was more of a strip than a drop.

[Tank 92]

Yeah. It was more of a strip than a drop.

Right. It really wasn't a drop, but Evans didn't wrap the ball after the catch like every kid whoever caught a ball in Pop Warner is taught to do. Worst play in the history of the team, no question.

Edited July 17, 2015 by Tank 92

[Blackbirds Rule]

I'll take Frank Walker for $1,000 Alex.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Drops mic.....

[Tenacious Faulker]

As for kickers - Steven Huashcka or Billy Cundiff?

[Tenacious Faulker]

Can't forget Lee Evans.  His time here was short, but very real.

[K-Dog]

Right. It really wasn't a drop, but Evans didn't wrap the ball after the catch like every kid whoever caught a ball in Pop Warner is taught to do. Worst play in the history of the team, no question.

Yeah. I am pretty sure he coulda' played a bit tougher, but in the moment who really knows? Shoulda' , woulda', coulda', is way easier than DO.

For me the worst play in Ravens history is Troys strip/ sack TD in the playoffs.

I still get sick to my stomach on that one.

[52520Andrew]

For me the worst play in Ravens history is Troys strip/ sack TD in the playoffs.

I still get sick to my stomach on that one.

 

Wait are you talking that pick 6 he had in 2008 or the strip sack in the 2010 regular season?

[K-Dog]

Wait are you talking that pick 6 he had in 2008 or the strip sack in the 2010 regular season?

Uhhhh now I am confused.

[52520Andrew]

Uhhhh now I am confused.

I don't remember him having any big time strip sack on is against the playoffs. I do remember that 2010 game where he came off the edge and got the strip sack and it cost us the game and division, that one still gets to me

[K-Dog]

I don't remember him having any big time strip sack on is against the playoffs. I do remember that 2010 game where he came off the edge and got the strip sack and it cost us the game and division, that one still gets to me

Hmmmmmm that might be it. *scratches head*  I thought it was in the playoffs.   I have no problem being wrong.

[K-Dog]

this one

I really, really really really really hate this play.

 

No one touched the guy.

[52520Andrew]

this one

I really, really really really really hate this play.

No one touched the guy.

Yeah that was the regular season, that was pretty much the game and play that cost us the division that year and we had to go to the Steelers for the playoffs that year where we also lost in frustrating fashion.

[Tank 92]

Yeah. I am pretty sure he coulda' played a bit tougher, but in the moment who really knows? Shoulda' , woulda', coulda', is way easier than DO.

For me the worst play in Ravens history is Troys strip/ sack TD in the playoffs.

I still get sick to my stomach on that one.

I hear ya, but it's a basic fundamental skill that shouldn't take thought, especially for a professional. Just a bad, bad play.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Frank Walker.

Cost us more games against the Steelers than anyone in team history, and in an era when the division crown went through them.

Cost us quite a few division games as I recall.

[Tru11]

I hear ya, but it's a basic fundamental skill that shouldn't take thought, especially for a professional. Just a bad, bad play.

 

evans actually had the ball tucked to his body with what appears to be 2 hands on it.

 

https://youtu.be/yIH-GrnnPVM

 

if you go to the 30 second mark you will have the best view of this catch.

 

@ the 32 second mark it appears the ball is against his body with 2 hands on it tucked away.

 

seems pretty fundamental to me.

 

also like i said before you seem to forget the defender also made a fundamental sounds play by managing to actually hit the ball and not the player which forced it to come out.

had he hit the arm of chest chances are the ball would not come out.

 

the best way to get a ball to come loose is to hit the ball and not the player.

just as charles tillman who made a living with making these kinds of plays having 42 FF as CB lol

 

TBH this is more of a case of the defender making 1 hell of a play rather then the receiver being careless with the ball.

 

Worst play by far in that game was the rushed missed FG that came later with 15 seconds left and us still having a TO.

 

i still cant believe why we did not use the TO and instead rushed cundiff out there and rush the kick.

with the clock winding down just call the TO and make sure to get it right.

What where they planning to do with that TO and 15 seconds left lol

[Tank 92]

evans actually had the ball tucked to his body with what appears to be 2 hands on it.

https://youtu.be/yIH-GrnnPVM

if you go to the 30 second mark you will have the best view of this catch.

@ the 32 second mark it appears the ball is against his body with 2 hands on it tucked away.

seems pretty fundamental to me.

also like i said before you seem to forget the defender also made a fundamental sounds play by managing to actually hit the ball and not the player which forced it to come out.

had he hit the arm of chest chances are the ball would not come out.

the best way to get a ball to come loose is to hit the ball and not the player.

just as charles tillman who made a living with making these kinds of plays having 42 FF as CB lol

TBH this is more of a case of the defender making 1 hell of a play rather then the receiver being careless with the ball.

Worst play by far in that game was the rushed missed FG that came later with 15 seconds left and us still having a TO.

i still cant believe why we did not use the TO and instead rushed cundiff out there and rush the kick.

with the clock winding down just call the TO and make sure to get it right.

What where they planning to do with that TO and 15 seconds left lol

Pressing the ball against your gut with two hands is not protecting the ball and is not the fundamental that is taught. He left the ball exposed so it could be hit rather than tucking the ball and wrapping an arm(or both arms) around it. Basic football. Edited July 18, 2015 by Tank 92

[Tenacious Faulker]

Dominique Foxworth.  Solid guy, but always injured and never play well when here.  Through in his high cap number and he's ranking toward the top of the worst.

[Sami84]

Dominique Foxworth.  Solid guy, but always injured and never play well when here.  Through in his high cap number and he's ranking toward the top of the worst.

 

C'mon foxworth was good in his first season for us..its when the injuries came afterwards it went pear shaped.

[January J]

evans actually had the ball tucked to his body with what appears to be 2 hands on it.

https://youtu.be/yIH-GrnnPVM

if you go to the 30 second mark you will have the best view of this catch.

@ the 32 second mark it appears the ball is against his body with 2 hands on it tucked away.

seems pretty fundamental to me.

also like i said before you seem to forget the defender also made a fundamental sounds play by managing to actually hit the ball and not the player which forced it to come out.

had he hit the arm of chest chances are the ball would not come out.

the best way to get a ball to come loose is to hit the ball and not the player.

just as charles tillman who made a living with making these kinds of plays having 42 FF as CB lol

TBH this is more of a case of the defender making 1 hell of a play rather then the receiver being careless with the ball.

Worst play by far in that game was the rushed missed FG that came later with 15 seconds left and us still having a TO.

i still cant believe why we did not use the TO and instead rushed cundiff out there and rush the kick.

with the clock winding down just call the TO and make sure to get it right.

What where they planning to do with that TO and 15 seconds left lol

maybe they didn't want to give him more time to think about .

[Tru11]

Pressing the ball against your gut with two hands is not protecting the ball and is not the fundamental that is taught. He left the ball exposed so it could be hit rather than tucking the ball and wrapping an arm(or both arms) around it. Basic football.

 

he had 1 arm around it lol

he was in the proces of securing it even further.

 

you do realise the catch and knock out happend in less then 3 seconds right?

 

also you totally gonna ignore the CB making the play of his life?

 

maybe they didn't want to give him more time to think about .

 

who cundiff?

[January J]

he had 1 arm around it lol

he was in the proces of securing it even further.

you do realise the catch and knock out happend in less then 3 seconds right?

also you totally gonna ignore the CB making the play of his life?

who cundiff?

yeah- not that I think it would have mattered. Pretty sure he was destined to miss that kick. It also set up the 2012 run with the rematch and ray's last ride etc.

[Tank 92]

he had 1 arm around it lol

he was in the proces of securing it even further.

 

you do realise the catch and knock out happend in less then 3 seconds right?

 

also you totally gonna ignore the CB making the play of his life?

 

 

 

 

lol  Play of his life?  He swung at the ball and it was there to be hit. Evans left it out in front of his body exposed. He had plenty of time to tuck and protect the ball, he didn't do it. It's something he probably practiced since he was a kid. Horrible mistake.

 

http://www.playsportstv.com/football/football-wide-receiver_tucking-away-the-ball

 

Also from a basic youth coaching tutorial;

 

"Once the receivers have caught the football, they must correctly tuck the ball to protect it from defenders. Tucking consists of watching the ball into the hands, and then locking it in a protected position using the hand, forearm, and elbow to squeeze the ball into the body. While coaches differ in the exact number of pressure points involved, it is imperative to have pressure from each of those three areas."

 

"The catch is not complete until the ball is tucked away. Receivers should tuck the ball every time they make a catch—even in the most basic warm-up drills in prepractice. Demanding the tuck at all times instills discipline in your players, and adds crispness to your program. Tucking the football on every catch should become as automatic as breathing.'

Edited July 18, 2015 by Tank 92

[Tru11]

yeah- not that I think it would have mattered. Pretty sure he was destined to miss that kick. It also set up the 2012 run with the rematch and ray's last ride etc.

 

i think if he had enough time to line up his shot he probaly could have made it.

 

in this situation he hurried everything which screwed with his fundamentals and lead to the miss.

 

lol  Play of his life?  He swung at the ball and it was there to be hit. Evans left it out in front of his body exposed. He had plenty of time to tuck and protect the ball, he didn't do it. It's something he probably practiced since he was a kid. Horrible mistake.

 

http://www.playsportstv.com/football/football-wide-receiver_tucking-away-the-ball

 

Also from a basic youth coaching tutorial;

 

"Once the receivers have caught the football, they must correctly tuck the ball to protect it from defenders. Tucking consists of watching the ball into the hands, and then locking it in a protected position using the hand, forearm, and elbow to squeeze the ball into the body. While coaches differ in the exact number of pressure points involved, it is imperative to have pressure from each of those three areas."

 

"The catch is not complete until the ball is tucked away. Receivers should tuck the ball every time they make a catch—even in the most basic warm-up drills in prepractice. Demanding the tuck at all times instills discipline in your players, and adds crispness to your program. Tucking the football on every catch should become as automatic as breathing.'

 

 

 

exposed in front of his body?

 

this was roughly 1 second after the catch and tenths of seconds before it gets knocked out.

 

seems to me he is in the process of tucking it like he was taught and not being careless like you are trying to make it out to be.

[Tank 92]

 

 

 

 

exposed in front of his body?

 

this was roughly 1 second after the catch and tenths of seconds before it gets knocked out.

 

seems to me he is in the process of tucking it like he was taught and not being careless like you are trying to make it out to be.

 

Yes exposed in front of his body, like in this pic.

 

I'll try one more time and then, no mas.   lol

 

Do you see the space between the ball and the inside of his elbow? That shouldn't be there. He's already turned around since first catching the ball and had more than enough time to secure it. If he had secured it inside of his elbow(the fourth point of contact) or even had he wrapped both forearms around the ball(not his hands) it would have been covered and not have come out. Just basic football 101 that is taught from the beginning. 

Edited July 18, 2015 by Tank 92

[1/28/01]

Sheesh, it was a good defensive play.

[Wildabeast88]

Since the trend in the slow off-season is usually rating the best players, such as the Top 100 and best ravens players of all time, I thought it would be neat to do the opposite, the Ravens All-Time WORST players.

The idea here is to put together a 53 man roster of clunkers, busts, has-beens and never have-beens.

I'm going to start with just a few players, and as we accrue more posts hopefully we can all collaborate to a complete 53-man Stinker roster.

Tony Banks

Frank Walker

Yamon Figurs

Kyle Boller

Sergio Kindle

Haven't read entire thread but Leon Searcy has to be on the list. Made lots of money and I don't believe ever played a game

[Tank 92]

https://farmerstanproductions.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/the-lee-evans-drop-what-really-happened-where-does-it-rank-in-nfl-playoff-chokes/

[Tru11]

there was at most 1 second between the catch and the ball getting knocked out.

game clock does not lie since it shows 24 seconds left at the time of the catch and still when it got knocked out.

 

i doubt less then a second is plenty of time to catch and secure a pass while turning around after running at full speed with 2 defenders closing in on you.

 

to each their own.

 

some rather blame the player for not being able to do something pretty unreasonable while others are not afraid to admit the defender actually made 1 heck of a play at the right time.

[Sami84]

it was an awful moment..but evans didn't do a bad job..moore just did a very good one..

 

its still the worst moment though..as I feel we would have beaten the giants..i think we matched up vs them way better than the patriots

[1/28/01]

https://farmerstanproductions.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/the-lee-evans-drop-what-really-happened-where-does-it-rank-in-nfl-playoff-chokes/

Horribly worded and poorly written gibberish is what I read there, ha. For anyone to see this as anything other than a great defensive play is beyond me. Whether it was great on purpose or by accident, Moore knocked the ball out at the most opportune time for his team. Great play!