Ravens All Time Worst Players

[Gordo52]

I guess Boller always being a class act helped saved his reputation... Can't imagine what this forum would be like in those days... OK, he's not the worst Raven ever. Most infamous? Probably. Worst draft pick? I'd say yes.

Expectations weren't the same with all those other crappy QB's in the 90's....I don't think it's crazy to put him in the discussion.

[traumakings]

No I'm not, and I agree he looked "dynamic" in several offseasons inspiring hope that he might actually contribute something during his career.

Then he'd see the field and drop easy catches, run wrong routes, and couldn't get open.

Justin Hardy, Demetrius Williams, Tandon Doss,

Kelley Washington, Marcus Smith, etc, etc, etc.... All showed flashes in preseason every once in a while. Doesn't mean they were good players. Doesn't mean they weren't awful players.

Sorry but if you're going to claim he was a good player and was a victim of circumstance, you've got to be able to back up those claims.

You basically said hey I disagree with your post for these reasons. All I did was the same - I disagree with your post on this basis... Don't see where my contribution is any less. We're discussing whether Deonte has a place among these players or not.

I apologize if you didn't mean for it to go any further than " I think this because that's what I think" and not have to validate your reasons.

So I'll ask a bit more directly, and it shouldn't take a pro scouts eye to answer it... In your opinion couldn't even a decent receiver get some decent snaps and production in a lineup consisting only of Torrey Smith, Tandon Doss and Marlon Brown??

We're seeing now that Marlon is a decent player - a fringe starter in an unproven wr corps - yet during his rookie year he was deemed a far better option than Deonte.

And other teams took a look at him after his time with the Ravens - don't think he ever made it beyond preseason or PS with anyone.

That means he got his best and only opportunity with the Ravens... The ravens didn't hold him back they gave him a chance to be a starter and he couldn't do anything.

So, victim of circumstances (lack of opportunity, buried on the depth chart) or just a really bad player? Btw that's not a huge knock on him he was an udfa for a reason.

And if you're going to say again he was a victim of circumstance please point out the great players that he was buried behind, and what you saw in him that 32 NFL teams and their scouts clearly didn't.

Definitely turned a mouse hole into a Mountain here, but I'll humor you.

The times I've seen Deonte play, he always looked natural catching the ball to me, especially in comparison to Torrey Smith, he went over the middle, he looked better tracking the ball. He was on pace to break out before his foot injury and legal troubles.

I don't feel Deonte Thompson was a case of not being skilled, just more so a case of bad luck and circumstance.

And why he hasn't started on other teams? I couldn't tell you, I don't know the situations within those teams, Deontes mindset or physical condition. All I know is that while he was here, he did impress more than me and mightve started, if not not for injury or legal issues.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Deonte-Thompson-Motivated-To-Deliver-On-Promise/fd609051-d087-4d26-915d-74ecb90243f3

[gabefergy]

what games did he single handedly cost us?

It's hard to say any one player besides the QB could single handedly cost a football team games, but Elam certainly has a lot of bad plays that that led to points. Probably at least half a dozen plays when he completely blew a coverage as a rookie leading to a huge gain or TD. Last season it was shoddy tackling that really did him in. He had a couple awful missed tackles against the Pats, one on a scoring play.

[ravensfan2430]

Matt Elam has single handedly cost us at least half a dozen games .

 

Thats pretty impressive of a ''worst player of all time'' resume in just the space of a couple of years.

 

Lots of these other guys where just invisible.

 

Matt Elam is very visible..for all the wrong reasons.

 

We knock michael huffs first and pretty much only game vs the broncos. 

 

Quite frankly thats what elams been doing for two years.

Pretty much agree. He sticks out like Oneil Cousins did on the Oline.

[Bltravens]

Feel like you've all forgotten David Pittman...the only guy I've seen ever flat out pull the plug playing on the field.  He was awful.  At least Elam doesn't do that on plays.

Edited July 14, 2015 by Bltravens

[Tru11]

It's hard to say any one player besides the QB could single handedly cost a football team games, but Elam certainly has a lot of bad plays that that led to points. Probably at least half a dozen plays when he completely blew a coverage as a rookie leading to a huge gain or TD. Last season it was shoddy tackling that really did him in. He had a couple awful missed tackles against the Pats, one on a scoring play.

 

nobody is denying elam had bad plays.

thats not the discussion.

 

sami said elam single handedly cost us at least half a dozen games and i want to know which 6 or more games elam cost us.

 

i cant think of 1 but feel free to pinch in and point me to the games in question.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Definitely turned a mouse hole into a Mountain here, but I'll humor you.

The times I've seen Deonte play, he always looked natural catching the ball to me, especially in comparison to Torrey Smith, he went over the middle, he looked better tracking the ball. He was on pace to break out before his foot injury and legal troubles.

I don't feel Deonte Thompson was a case of not being skilled, just more so a case of bad luck and circumstance.

And why he hasn't started on other teams? I couldn't tell you, I don't know the situations within those teams, Deontes mindset or physical condition. All I know is that while he was here, he did impress more than me and mightve started, if not not for injury or legal issues.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Deonte-Thompson-Motivated-To-Deliver-On-Promise/fd609051-d087-4d26-915d-74ecb90243f3

 

I think you're looking for "mountain into a mole hill" but far from the point.

 

At this point i dont know that we were seeing the same player, so I'll just agree to disagree.

[Ravenseconbeast]

boller isnt even close, he was just forced down our throats for so many years thanks to billicks pride. 

 

the sad thing is, before flacco came, boller was probably in the top 5 of our franchises qb's. 

 

mcnair 

dilfer 

testaverde 

grbac 

boller 

 

then think of every other qb besides those guys that we had, every one of them were worse than boller.. yep, let that sink in lol

I think a good amount of fans adamantly supported Boller till the very end.   That kept the longevity of keeping our great team into a really bad one.

[Ravenseconbeast]

In recent years Gino Gradkowski, Ed Dickson, and Michael Oher come to mind. Frank walker was a penalty machine. Boller obviously was a disaster.

 

Forgot Jah Reid.....and he is STILL ON OUR ROSTER!

[Sami84]

nobody is denying elam had bad plays.

thats not the discussion.

 

sami said elam single handedly cost us at least half a dozen games and i want to know which 6 or more games elam cost us.

 

i cant think of 1 but feel free to pinch in and point me to the games in question.

I can think of 3 off the bat

 

2 vs the bengals in his rookie season

and 1 vs patriots this DP

 

yup he cost us. That tackle on amendola..I COULD have done better. It was appalling..it was a 3rd down and it would have forced a field goal.

 

Might have changed the complexion of the entire game.

[Tru11]

I can think of 3 off the bat

 

2 vs the bengals in his rookie season

and 1 vs patriots this DP

 

yup he cost us. That tackle on amendola..I COULD have done better. It was appalling..it was a 3rd down and it would have forced a field goal.

 

Might have changed the complexion of the entire game.

 

lmao that stretching it quite a bit.

 

we won 1 bengals game in his rookie season so how you can blame him for a loss is pretty weird....

the other bengals game it was tied going into the 4th and then  the offense threw 3 INT on  4 possessions with 1 going for a pick 6.

how cab you pin that 1 on elam or even the defense lol.

 

that pats game is also a huge stretch cause when elam made a mistake it became a tied game in the 2nd quarter.

we when into HT with a 7 point lead so its hard to argue  elam destroyed our team confidence orso...

we even went up 2 TDs before everything fell apart and its ridiculous to blame elam for the 2nd half collapse while flacco threw 2 picks, brady picked on melvin and the refs botched that abuse of the in eligible substitution stuff.

 

that trick play or that lafell TD had far bigger impacts not to mention that whole drive that the pats abused that now banned rule lol.

heck if we got a FG instead flacco throwing a pick we would only need a FG to win the game and that 2nd pick probably would not have happened.

 

you got to come with way better examples then these lmao

Edited July 15, 2015 by Tru11

[JoeyFlex5]

I think a good amount of fans adamantly supported Boller till the very end.   That kept the longevity of keeping our great team into a really bad one.

i didnt adamantly support boller but i felt bad for him, he was forced into a bad deal because he was massively overdrafted with unfair expectations. the dude may have been horrible but man he left it all on the field, he really had alot of heart and it led to some good moments.

[traumakings]

I think you're looking for "mountain into a mole hill" but far from the point.

At this point i dont know that we were seeing the same player, so I'll just agree to disagree.

Nope, said it exactly how I wanted.

We are seeing the same guy. Obviously we view it differently, but I respect your opinion.

[traumakings]

I can think of 3 off the bat

2 vs the bengals in his rookie season

and 1 vs patriots this DP

yup he cost us. That tackle on amendola..I COULD have done better. It was appalling..it was a 3rd down and it would have forced a field goal.

Might have changed the complexion of the entire game.

I'm not as extreme as you in your opinions, but I will say that any situation where you have to teach a 1st rounder to do his MAIN job [ WR catching, OL blocking etc ], which would be tackling is a problem. I have high hopes for the guy, but it's always a red flag when you have to teach the guy the basics.

[Tank 92]

i didnt adamantly support boller but i felt bad for him, he was forced into a bad deal because he was massively overdrafted with unfair expectations. the dude may have been horrible but man he left it all on the field, he really had alot of heart and it led to some good moments.

I'm with ya here. And for those reasons Boller >Grbac

Edited July 15, 2015 by Tank 92

[GrimCoconut]

The person who said Lee Evans isn't one of the worst players in our history certainly finds me in disagreement. He was hurt most of the year, did nothing to help this team, and when his number was called he dropped THE PASS to get us to the Super Bowl. He also cost us a fourth round draft pick.

Yes, he was epically bad. We spent a fourth round pick for a guy who caught four balls all year and who dropped a critical catch.

[redrum52]

I can think of 3 off the bat

2 vs the bengals in his rookie season

and 1 vs patriots this DP

yup he cost us. That tackle on amendola..I COULD have done better. It was appalling..it was a 3rd down and it would have forced a field goal.

Might have changed the complexion of the entire game.

Daniels catching that td changes the complexion of the game. And it was 2nd down I think.

The defense played awful, but the offense only managed 10 2nd half points and turned the ball over 3 times I think.

Edited July 15, 2015 by redrum52

[K-Dog]

I guess Boller always being a class act helped saved his reputation

For me its more than that, but that IS a part of it. It boils down to the actual definition of WORST. Kyle Boller is not the WORST RAVEN ever. By definition. No.

... Can't imagine what this forum would be like in those days... OK, he's not the worst Raven ever. Most infamous? Probably. Worst draft pick? I'd say yes.

Expectations weren't the same with all those other crappy QB's in the 90's....I don't think it's crazy to put him in the discussion.

Yes I will easily give you infamous. Worst draft pick, I can think of worse, but possibly.

Yeah, his name will always be in these conversations. Unfortunately. And I will continue to defend him. I will continue to bring up RAVENS v. undefeated Pats. He was a man on a mission that night. By half time everyone in Baltimore believed, that maybe, just maybe, this kid just might pull off the upset. We were close. We were really really close.

[traumakings]

I'm extremely thankful for Boller, if we didn't get boller, we wouldn't of picked Flacco in the long run. Butterfly Effect.

[ravensdan]

Okay I gotta say this about Anthony Wright.

My first ever live NFL game was Ravens vs. Seahawks.

We were getting whooped. It was ugly.

70% of the stadium had gone home.

Anthony Wright helped engineer what was at the time the greatest comeback in Ravens history.

It was simply amazing.

For that ( and pretty much that alone ) Anthony Wright will always have a special place for me.

Yeah Wright definitely caught lightning in a bottle for a short period of time.

[ravensdan]

For me its more than that, but that IS a part of it. It boils down to the actual definition of WORST. Kyle Boller is not the WORST RAVEN ever. By definition. No.

Yes I will easily give you infamous. Worst draft pick, I can think of worse, but possibly.

Yeah, his name will always be in these conversations. Unfortunately. And I will continue to defend him. I will continue to bring up RAVENS v. undefeated Pats. He was a man on a mission that night. By half time everyone in Baltimore believed, that maybe, just maybe, this kid just might pull off the upset. We were close. We were really really close.

I think Boller is more like our version of Andy Dalton.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

For me its more than that, but that IS a part of it. It boils down to the actual definition of WORST. Kyle Boller is not the WORST RAVEN ever. By definition. No.

Yes I will easily give you infamous. Worst draft pick, I can think of worse, but possibly.

Yeah, his name will always be in these conversations. Unfortunately. And I will continue to defend him. I will continue to bring up RAVENS v. undefeated Pats. He was a man on a mission that night. By half time everyone in Baltimore believed, that maybe, just maybe, this kid just might pull off the upset. We were close. We were really really close.

I'm not saying he's the worst...

But even Rudy made a play.

[redrum52]

I'm not saying he's the worst...

But even Rudy made a play.

Lmao!!!

...He was offsides

[PurpleLDN]

All things being equal...Matt Elam/Lee Evans. One can't tackle, one couldn't catch.

[jimmypowder]

Foxworth ,Cody and Cousins .

[Tank 92]

The person who said Lee Evans isn't one of the worst players in our history certainly finds me in disagreement. He was hurt most of the year, did nothing to help this team, and when his number was called he dropped THE PASS to get us to the Super Bowl. He also cost us a fourth round draft pick.

Yes, he was epically bad. We spent a fourth round pick for a guy who caught four balls all year and who dropped a critical catch.

 

 

Evans gets my vote. he is arguably responsible for the single worst play in Ravens history.

[hawkprey]

The person who said Lee Evans isn't one of the worst players in our history certainly finds me in disagreement. He was hurt most of the year, did nothing to help this team, and when his number was called he dropped THE PASS to get us to the Super Bowl. He also cost us a fourth round draft pick.

Yes, he was epically bad. We spent a fourth round pick for a guy who caught four balls all year and who dropped a critical catch.

He did get a big 3rd down conversion against the 49ers, and had a big play against the Texans in the Divisional round that year. As little contribution as that was, when it comes to worst Raven, I think the bar can be set even lower. Most disappointing? Maybe. But I don't think Sergio Kindle even played a snap on defense.

[GrimCoconut]

He did get a big 3rd down conversion against the 49ers, and had a big play against the Texans in the Divisional round that year. As little contribution as that was, when it comes to worst Raven, I think the bar can be set even lower. Most disappointing? Maybe. But I don't think Sergio Kindle even played a snap on defense.

I don't judge Kindle too hard because he had an injury, albeit an avoidable one. It's hard to call him a "worst player" when he never saw the field. For me, you need to see the field or be a healthy scratch to be one of the worst players. Kindle's situation was unfortunate.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I don't judge Kindle too hard because he had an injury, albeit an avoidable one. It's hard to call him a "worst player" when he never saw the field. For me, you need to see the field or be a healthy scratch to be one of the worst players. Kindle's situation was unfortunate.

Yea when judging the ravens worst players, to me it's key that they actually played.

[Tru11]

well wasent lee evans pretty much injured that 1 season with us?

 

he only started 2 games.

 

also the defender made 1 hell of a play knocking the ball out of evans hands on the catch.

think alot of people are over looking that TBH.

 

sterling moore certainly deserves some credit of breaking up that TD with a tremendous play. on the ball.