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Ravens All Time Worst Players

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Frank walker was bad and I remember him taking a lot of flack but I always sort of felt for the guy. He was always spilling his guts, played with effort, was pretty physical. Unfortunately he was also beaten deep routinely, usually out of position,etc.

In his defense, he had no business starting at corner and did what he could with what he had. I take greater issue with a guy like doss who acted non chalant, played without great effort and basically took up space for a few years.

Three people quoting this says something.

I too hated Frank Walker, but always held out hope he would eventually start linking a few good plays.

I mean the guy didnt stink up EVERY SINGLE play.

He was like our own Rudy. All heart and little talent.

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Since the trend in the slow off-season is usually rating the best players, such as the Top 100 and best ravens players of all time, I thought it would be neat to do the opposite, the Ravens All-Time WORST players.

The idea here is to put together a 53 man roster of clunkers, busts, has-beens and never have-beens.

I'm going to start with just a few players, and as we accrue more posts hopefully we can all collaborate to a complete 53-man Stinker roster.

Tony Banks

Frank Walker

Yamon Figurs

Kyle Boller

Sergio Kindle

kyle boller is by far the worst player in history of mankind, he wasted so many great Ds.

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Travis Taylor

Lee Evans

Gino Gradkowski

Ed Dickson

Bernard Pierce after his rookie season (harsh I know)

Kyle Boller

Troy Smith

Frank Walker

Tandon Doss, Deonte Thompson, David Reed

Justin Harper, Eron Riley, Demetrius Williams

Basically every WR not named Anquan Boldin, Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith, Michael Jackson, or on the current roster.

My gosh our teams had some seriously bad WR groups.

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kyle boller is by far the worst player in history of mankind, he wasted so many great Ds.

boller isnt even close, he was just forced down our throats for so many years thanks to billicks pride. 

 

the sad thing is, before flacco came, boller was probably in the top 5 of our franchises qb's. 

 

mcnair 

dilfer 

testaverde 

grbac 

boller 

 

then think of every other qb besides those guys that we had, every one of them were worse than boller.. yep, let that sink in lol

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Travis Taylor

Lee Evans

Gino Gradkowski

Ed Dickson

Bernard Pierce after his rookie season (harsh I know)

Kyle Boller

Troy Smith

Frank Walker

Tandon Doss, Deonte Thompson, David Reed

Justin Harper, Eron Riley, Demetrius Williams

Basically every WR not named Anquan Boldin, Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith, Michael Jackson, or on the current roster.

My gosh our teams had some seriously bad WR groups.

 

Troy Smith wasent that bad though for a late round pick.

He was actually won the starter job in 2008 before he had some medical issue which forced us to start flacco sooner then we wanted and the rest is history.

 

Heck he played a pretty decend game in that week 17 match up against the squeelers that we WON lol

 

Also dickson first 2 seasons went pretty much as expected and his 3rd season he was still the starter taking on rn blocking duties while pitta had the pass catching duties.

that combo worked pretty good and he even made some nice grabs in the play offs.

 

it was year 4 where he was awefull with his hand of stone but then again the entire offense was terrible.

 

dont think he is among the worst lol.

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Worst QB ever, Elvis "Leap of Faith" Grabac.  Had we had Steve McNair in his prime we could have won two more Super Bowls.

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Frank walker was bad and I remember him taking a lot of flack but I always sort of felt for the guy. He was always spilling his guts, played with effort, was pretty physical. Unfortunately he was also beaten deep routinely, usually out of position,etc.

In his defense, he had no business starting at corner and did what he could with what he had. I take greater issue with a guy like doss who acted non chalant, played without great effort and basically took up space for a few years.

He was forced to play a bigger role than he can handle. Most times we waited for Foxworth and give him the time to start then he fails to show up and we were forced to use frank much more than we should have.

So in that sense, Foxworth was to blame. He knew he was a bad player with a bum body and yet he leveraged himself to take a fat contract(a-la haynesworth style) and just laid low and relaxed while our team was suffering

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Pretty much on the same plane to me is Gino. Huge disappointment. Terrible terrible center. But I place that one squarely on Ozzie and John.

They watched this guy for more than a year and decided that after Birk retired, Gino was up for the task. The front office made a conscious decision that we were good and went with Gino.

I have no doubt Gino worked his butt off. I'll take two frank walkers( if having to choose)for every Foxworth/Doss/Streeter/Elam/Reid.

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Worst QB ever, Elvis "Leap of Faith" Grabac.  Had we had Steve McNair in his prime we could have won two more Super Bowls.

 

Elvis gets a bad rap, but he was far from the worst. He led the team to a 10-6 record and the playoffs, even after Jamaal missed the entire season with a knee injury. Sure you weren't thinking about Scott Mitchell?

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Troy Smith wasent that bad though for a late round pick.

He was actually won the starter job in 2008 before he had some medical issue which forced us to start flacco sooner then we wanted and the rest is history.

 

Not to mention we have this play from him

 

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Not to mention we have this play from him

 

 

hahahah man that play was awesome.

to bad flacco stumbled.

would have been an epic TD and probaly some record with a QB catching a TD lol

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Elvis gets a bad rap, but he was far from the worst. He led the team to a 10-6 record and the playoffs, even after Jamaal missed the entire season with a knee injury. Sure you weren't thinking about Scott Mitchell?

No offense Tex but Grbac was horrible. He didn't play every game and the ones he didn't we were undefeated with Cunningham at the controls. Cunningham>Grbac by a longshot. It was just Billick again with his hardheadedness. Cost us in the long run.

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I find it difficult to respect anyone who says Boller is the " worst RAVEN ever"

Disappointing. Sure. Frustrating. You bet. I will even givey you he is just a bad QB.

WORST ? EVER ?

No freaking way.

( see Ravens vs. Undefeated Pats game and tell me he is the "worst ever " )

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Elvis gets a bad rap, but he was far from the worst. He led the team to a 10-6 record and the playoffs, even after Jamaal missed the entire season with a knee injury. Sure you weren't thinking about Scott Mitchell?

You are correct, Scott "The Water Buffalo" Mitchell.

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Foxworth was good before he got hurt.

 

Walker and Figurs....had their moments.

 

 

 

Kindle did it to himself couldn't even get his butt on the field.

 

 

 

Boller was garbage, garbage garbage garbage.

 

 

Does Rolando McClain count?

 

 

I give Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff honorable mentions

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How has no one said Chykie Brown AKA Frank Walker 2.0? lol

 

Chykie wasn't as bad as Walker in terms of constantly drawing penalties but they both had that deer in the headlights look trying to track the ball in the air that drove me to the brink of throwing my remote through my TV.

 

- Don't think it's fair to put Kindle on the list, that freak accident severely damaged his ability as a football player

- Lee Evans was a choke but definitely wasn't THAT bad outside of that one play

- Every QB not named Joe Flacco or Steve McNair could make the list

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I find it difficult to respect anyone who says Boller is the " worst RAVEN ever"

Disappointing. Sure. Frustrating. You bet. I will even givey you he is just a bad QB.

WORST ? EVER ?

No freaking way.

( see Ravens vs. Undefeated Pats game and tell me he is the "worst ever " )

You're right. Boller is nowhere near the worst Raven Qb ever. Did you all forget this list of starters:

Eric zeier

Jim harbaugh

Scott Mitchell

Stoney Case

Tony Banks

Jeff Blake

Chris redman

Anthony wright

Just typing this list hurts my eyes. I wish I could erase some of these guys from my memory.

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You're right. Boller is nowhere near the worst Raven Qb ever. Did you all forget this list of starters:

Eric zeier

Jim harbaugh

Scott Mitchell

Stoney Case

Tony Banks

Jeff Blake

Chris redman

Anthony wright

Just typing this list hurts my eyes. I wish I could erase some of these guys from my memory.

Lmao.. Stoney Case.

Scott Mitchell was a better than Boller.

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Does Rolando McClain count?

LOL that's not a bad one

What a headache. But, hey, we swapped him for a decent pick. Still don't have any evidence that he even did a lick of work as a Raven.

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Travis Taylor

Lee Evans

Gino Gradkowski

Ed Dickson

Bernard Pierce after his rookie season (harsh I know)

Kyle Boller

Troy Smith

Frank Walker

Tandon Doss, Deonte Thompson, David Reed

Justin Harper, Eron Riley, Demetrius Williams

Basically every WR not named Anquan Boldin, Derrick Mason, Torrey Smith, Michael Jackson, or on the current roster.

My gosh our teams had some seriously bad WR groups.

ahhh Deonte Thompson is a sore spot for me. I loved the guy and think if he wasn't buried and given the opportunity to play he would of been a good receiver for us.
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ahhh Deonte Thompson is a sore spot for me. I loved the guy and think if he wasn't buried and given the opportunity to play he would of been a good receiver for us.

Then why didn't he catch on somewhere else?

He got more opportunities than a lot of other guys.

And he was buried?? Really? Behind Torrey Smith, Marlon Brown an UDFA and Tandon Doss. You're right, many a good receiver wouldn't have seen the field with all that talent ahead of them.

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You're right. Boller is nowhere near the worst Raven Qb ever. Did you all forget this list of starters:

Anthony wright

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Okay I gotta say this about Anthony Wright.

My first ever live NFL game was Ravens vs. Seahawks.

We were getting whooped. It was ugly.

70% of the stadium had gone home.

Anthony Wright helped engineer what was at the time the greatest comeback in Ravens history.

It was simply amazing.

For that ( and pretty much that alone ) Anthony Wright will always have a special place for me.

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Then why didn't he catch on somewhere else?

He got more opportunities than a lot of other guys.

And he was buried?? Really? Behind Torrey Smith, Marlon Brown an UDFA and Tandon Doss. You're right, many a good receiver wouldn't have seen the field with all that talent ahead of them.

Confidence maybe? Idk, I'm not an NFL scout or work in an NFL office, and I'd be willing to bet you are not either. I just remember him looking pretty dynamic when he did have chances. But besides that, do you have anything to contribute?

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Hard for me to call an UDFA who made the roster and played snaps for us one of the worst Ravens of all time. I mean for an UDFA, Deonte Thompson was a pretty good deal and it isn't like the guy was awful when out there.

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Confidence maybe? Idk, I'm not an NFL scout or work in an NFL office, and I'd be willing to bet you are not either. I just remember him looking pretty dynamic when he did have chances. But besides that, do you have anything to contribute?

No I'm not, and I agree he looked "dynamic" in several offseasons inspiring hope that he might actually contribute something during his career.

Then he'd see the field and drop easy catches, run wrong routes, and couldn't get open.

Justin Hardy, Demetrius Williams, Tandon Doss,

Kelley Washington, Marcus Smith, etc, etc, etc.... All showed flashes in preseason every once in a while. Doesn't mean they were good players. Doesn't mean they weren't awful players.

Sorry but if you're going to claim he was a good player and was a victim of circumstance, you've got to be able to back up those claims.

You basically said hey I disagree with your post for these reasons. All I did was the same - I disagree with your post on this basis... Don't see where my contribution is any less. We're discussing whether Deonte has a place among these players or not.

I apologize if you didn't mean for it to go any further than " I think this because that's what I think" and not have to validate your reasons.

So I'll ask a bit more directly, and it shouldn't take a pro scouts eye to answer it... In your opinion couldn't even a decent receiver get some decent snaps and production in a lineup consisting only of Torrey Smith, Tandon Doss and Marlon Brown??

We're seeing now that Marlon is a decent player - a fringe starter in an unproven wr corps - yet during his rookie year he was deemed a far better option than Deonte.

And other teams took a look at him after his time with the Ravens - don't think he ever made it beyond preseason or PS with anyone.

That means he got his best and only opportunity with the Ravens... The ravens didn't hold him back they gave him a chance to be a starter and he couldn't do anything.

So, victim of circumstances (lack of opportunity, buried on the depth chart) or just a really bad player? Btw that's not a huge knock on him he was an udfa for a reason.

And if you're going to say again he was a victim of circumstance please point out the great players that he was buried behind, and what you saw in him that 32 NFL teams and their scouts clearly didn't.

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Matt Elam has single handedly cost us at least half a dozen games .

 

Thats pretty impressive of a ''worst player of all time'' resume in just the space of a couple of years.

 

Lots of these other guys where just invisible.

 

Matt Elam is very visible..for all the wrong reasons.

 

We knock michael huffs first and pretty much only game vs the broncos. 

 

Quite frankly thats what elams been doing for two years.

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Matt Elam has single handedly cost us at least half a dozen games .

 

Thats pretty impressive of a ''worst player of all time'' resume in just the space of a couple of years.

 

Lots of these other guys where just invisible.

 

Matt Elam is very visible..for all the wrong reasons.

 

We knock michael huffs first and pretty much only game vs the broncos. 

 

Quite frankly thats what elams been doing for two years.

 

what games did he single handedly cost us?

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