[News] Joe Flacco Benefiting From Backup, And Tutor, Matt Schaub

[BR News]

Backup quarterback Matt Schaub not only played in the West Coast system, but he excelled in it.

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[TorryGundy]

Goes to show you stats are nto everything. Schaub threw for over 4ooo yards 3 times and is a pro bowler......He is backing up Joe....Jow is the better QB, I dont care what any stat says. With that being said, I do feel really good about the QB room. A lot of smarts in those four walls.

[bigcatfrank1]

AS I had posted a few weeks back.... I feel that Matt Schaub could be the hidden gem in this years off season. And he probabaly wont even start a game. His benefit will come in working with the 2nd and 3rd team offense. As well as sparring with the 1st string alongside of Joe during the season. Here he will develop the 2nd string...WR and TE and defense paralell to Joe on the field. They are very much alike. He is a smart QB who can run at game speed. This will be a blessing for the young players that we expect to be factors as the season mves forward! Go Matt...Go Joe... Go Ravens

[huntrgathrr]

There are 5 things for which Joe is under estimated:

1. He has a very strong arm, letting him mtake advantage of smaller degrees of separation by his receivers.

2.His intelligence...he is a very bright guy that quickly picks up the nuances of many different offensive schemes.

3.His emotional stability..he performs at a high level on the biggest stages because he does not get rattled. He is a rock.

4.His durability...starting every game in his 7 year career (137 starts) is remarkable. But the way he gets up after a big hit is inspiring to his teammates. He is a very tough guy.

5.He completely suppresses his ego and focuses on the success of the team. He does not care about any thing except winning the game. That is why he has won more games than any other QB in the NFL since he came into the league.

He is the main reason we are one of the best teams in the NFL every year.

[reed20fence]

just to echo what the second poster said below, if you watch the 2012 Houston Texans their offense was a thing of beauty. that's what the West Coast offense is. the quarterbacks footwork lines up perfectly with the timing and brakes on a wide receivers routes. the exchange or semblance of an exchange between a quarterback and running back line up perfectly with the block and release patterns of receivers and tightends. that's what Schaub brings - there should be no drop off between a first second or third string guy in terms of knowledge or technique.

Edited July 8, 2015 by reed20fence

[The Greek]

do not teach joe the pick 6 schaub

[salamander]

I would imagine that there aren't many QB's in the NFL who could be as easy as Joe to get along with. Joe's quiet confidence and lack of ego is evident. He doesn't feel the need to prove to the back ups who is the alpha male, top dog, etc.. It's reassuring that Joe is so mellow, doesn't feel threatened and makes the backups feel comfortable so they can work together for the betterment of the team. Matt has a lot of knowledge and experience regarding this offensive system and can help us grow.

Edited July 9, 2015 by salamander

[winwin]

Y'all still finding ways to belittle a guy know no longer he, that qb room won a Super Bowl..

[hen826957]

Joe is at cool as he could be. Glad we had him as our QB. :-)

[ellicottraven]

Despite Matt having 3 - 4000 yard seasons, Flacco is still the QB that can get us more Lombardis. More so than any other QB in the league right now. Yes, that includes every other QB in the league. Flacco is just that unique when it comes down to crunch time! He is the Johny Unitas of the modern era in my honest opinion.

[Jim Giampaoli]

Ellicottraven: I saw Johnny Unitas play for thirteen years in Baltimore. Don't get me wrong. Flacco is very good but no quarterback should ever be compared to Unitas in the passed or modern era. If anyone here today had seen Unitas play, they would agree. No other quarterback equals him.

[jravens13]

Mark my words. Flacco is about to light it up. We will finish Top 5 Yards and Top 5 Points.

[Dorota]

Even if Matt doesn't see any action during the season, and I pray that he doesn't, I think he was a great signing. What he can bring is the knowledge. He'll be good for Joe and he'll be useful as an extra support for the offense players, that are struggling with with the scheme. That's some hell of a senior leadership in Matt.

[Halshayeji]

If Matt us gonna teach joe anything, I reallt hope it's not in the weight room holding a clipboard lol.

[stampedehero]

do not teach joe the pick 6 schaub

That was his Raider MO

[stampedehero]

Ellicottraven: I saw Johnny Unitas play for thirteen years in Baltimore. Don't get me wrong. Flacco is very good but no quarterback should ever be compared to Unitas in the passed or modern era. If anyone here today had seen Unitas play, they would agree. No other quarterback equals him.

I experienced his work.  I was an old Colts fan.  Unitas may have looked stiff but he was a proven player. For example people should check out the SB5 vid and watch Mackey and JU connect   

[trevorsteadman]

do not teach joe the pick 6 schaub

I was about to post the same thing haha... I'm not too worried for the MOST part Flacco has had good vision. There's always those couple passes that he throws I wonder why he threw them every season, but other than that he is pretty solid. What makes me cringe more is when he throws perfect passes and receivers drop them and then commentators on NBC or CBS say how bad of a throw it was when the ball is in receivers' hands... Last season was hard to watch offense wise because it seemed like for every catch there was a drop. Fix the drops in the offseason and the offense will already take a huge step forward. Looking forward to Perriman proving doubters wrong as the #2 receiver behind Steve Smith then Perriman taking the #1 role 10 games into the season. 

[slowboater]

Ellicottraven: I saw Johnny Unitas play for thirteen years in Baltimore. Don't get me wrong. Flacco is very good but no quarterback should ever be compared to Unitas in the passed or modern era. If anyone here today had seen Unitas play, they would agree. No other quarterback equals him.

Ditto. Colts might have won another SB if Johnny had replaced Morall sooner.

[drillem]

Plus the fact that both come from roughly the same geographic location (Philly). For Shaub his direction down came after the season ending injury. Something in him changed after that. Could have been physical or mental not sure. Might have even been some subtle change in coaching support. But he was a force to be reckoned with just a few years back. Should be good for Joe to have his input on Sunday outings. We got this thing going towards the new offense scheme. I don't know if too many heads are better than one though.

[RAVENSNAYSHUN]

I've always wondered how much help is given to players competing for the same position. Not to say Shaub thinks he can ever win the starting job here, that's laughable, but I think he wants to be a starter for another team one day again. And I think he'll at least get another chance with another team down the line. So with that train of thought, how much help do you give someone you will be competing against one day. Do you hold back knowing you want to keep that competitive edge or do you go all out and help knowing this is your chance to win a ring because if Joe does good, the team does good... hmm?

 

Btw, Joe's no Johnny U nor is he Montana but am I the only one who can totally see Joe in the Super Bowl down by three points with 3:10 left while in the huddle look up and say, "There, in the stands, standing near the exit ramp...Isn't that, Taylor Swift!" Then leads the Ravens 92 yards downfield, and throws the winning touchdown with 34 seconds left.

[sami]

To answer your question, RAVENSNAYSHUN I think it depends on the team. It seems to me this team play like brothers, all sharing, everyone wanting each other to play better cuz they know its a team effort. I don't think ego has a lot to do with it in Baltimore. However on other teams its like they resent one another and don't want to share their secrets. On some teams like the Browns for instance that type of thinking goes all the way to the front office.

[jrock6587]

Unitas to Berry, Unitas to Moore, Unitas to Mackey. I've seen them all in my day. Any similarities between John and Joe. You bet! That quite demeanor, none of that rah rah stuff. Just go to work and get the job done. Baltimore fans in time you will see greatness again and his name is Joe Flacco. Give him the weapons to match his greatness.

[January J]

I've always wondered how much help is given to players competing for the same position. Not to say Shaub thinks he can ever win the starting job here, that's laughable, but I think he wants to be a starter for another team one day again. And I think he'll at least get another chance with another team down the line. So with that train of thought, how much help do you give someone you will be competing against one day. Do you hold back knowing you want to keep that competitive edge or do you go all out and help knowing this is your chance to win a ring because if Joe does good, the team does good... hmm?

Btw, Joe's no Johnny U nor is he Montana but am I the only one who can totally see Joe in the Super Bowl down by three points with 3:10 left while in the huddle look up and say, "There, in the stands, standing near the exit ramp...Isn't that, Taylor Swift!" Then leads the Ravens 92 yards downfield, and throws the winning touchdown with 34 seconds left.

lol yeah I can see that. Then he goes up to pitta and is like ..dude...you in the mood for some crab cakes after the ceremony? Edited July 9, 2015 by January J

[Bohica5]

Wuts he going to teach joe?.....Absolutely Nothing......

[Bohica5]

That was his Raider MO

I'm pretty sure joe's got interceptions and pick 6's down to an art..........

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Wuts he going to teach joe?.....Absolutely Nothing......

This statement is not very insightful. Something can be learned from anything and everything. The point here is that you can learn from mistakes the same as you can learn from successes. In fact you stand to learn more from mistakes but only is your willing to be completely honest with yourself. Sure Shaub is not at the level he once was but that does not mean he has nothing to teach. He can offer Joe an entirely new perspective leading to a more complete understanding. At this level of competition the gains a player makes are not generally leaps and bounds but rather small incremental gains that over time. Joe seems to be someone that learns very well from his mistakes as evidenced by his career. He does not get hot and bothered when things aren't going his way because he knows he can learn and adjust to find success. Give Shaub some credit. I can easily picture Flacco's level headed demeanor rubbing off on Shaub and positively affecting his decision making and overall play.

[RAVENSNAYSHUN]

To answer your question, RAVENSNAYSHUN I think it depends on the team. It seems to me this team play like brothers, all sharing, everyone wanting each other to play better cuz they know its a team effort. I don't think ego has a lot to do with it in Baltimore. However on other teams its like they resent one another and don't want to share their secrets. On some teams like the Browns for instance that type of thinking goes all the way to the front office.

 

I think you're right. The Ravens do put extra value on the character of players and not just their ability. Yes we have had players get in trouble here and there but none were really considered selfish or egotistical... I only raised the question b/c I don't see Schaub being a Ravens backup QB for longer than a yr or 2 before he gets another chance with another team... But I think I do agree with you.

[rick from oregon]

Schaub sweats too much. That was always a sign he was feeling the pressure and was about to collapse his game.

[RAVENSNAYSHUN]

lol yeah I can see that. Then he goes up to pitta and is like ..dude...you in the mood for some crab cakes after the ceremony?

 

I can see that too

[RavenManiac#7]

Funny that Harbs mentioned that Joe and Matt are the same height. I had been thinking about that a while ago and found myself wondering how many other teams, if any, had 13' worth of QBs with their first and second string QBs. But, as far as teaching goes, from what I've been reading so far it's Joe that should be teaching Matt something, not the other way around. I think that Joe needs to teach Matt how to complete passes to his own teammates rather than to defensive players. Man, the way Schaub has become so adept at throwing pick sixes the last couple/few seasons, it's kind of hard to remember just how well he played just a few seasons ago. I sure hope we don't have to rely on him. Please OL, keep Joe safe back there, and Joe, keep on being a tough guy, ok?