Positions that need addressing in 2016 Draft

[GrimCoconut]

Thoughts on taking a LT in round 1? Monroe is always injured and Hurst is good but I don't think he's starter quality. Just a guy to groom under Monroe until his contract is up then he takes over the job. Hurst is maybe trade bait?

I know its not a sexy pick but LT is arguably the most important position on the field and our starter is very good but can't be relied upon to stay healthy. If not the first then in an early round, not someone to start right away but to groom.

I don't think we can move on from Monroe for another two years so I'm not sure LT is currently an option unless a JO talent is there.

[Dubs]

I don't think we can move on from Monroe for another two years so I'm not sure LT is currently an option unless a JO talent is there.

 

I would agree just because of the contract and as stated his constant injury issues. But I am not against taking a developmental guy this year in the 2nd or later, kinda in the sense of Terron Armstead or how we had tried several years ago with Adam Terry...A guy like Jason Spriggs from Indiana is a really interesting prospect who I would be all for at this point

[GrimCoconut]

I would agree just because of the contract and as stated his constant injury issues. But I am not against taking a developmental guy this year in the 2nd or later, kinda in the sense of Terron Armstead or how we had tried several years ago with Adam Terry...A guy like Jason Spriggs from Indiana is a really interesting prospect who I would be all for at this point

Yeah there's nothing wrong with that. I'd certainly be all for it since you could put them at LG theoretically for a year should we lose KO. I wouldn't rule out any position honestly. I do think we could go LT round one but it wouldn't be to immediately replace Monroe. I suppose that's my point.

[allblackraven]

Yeah there's nothing wrong with that. I'd certainly be all for it since you could put them at LG theoretically for a year should we lose KO. I wouldn't rule out any position honestly. I do think we could go LT round one but it wouldn't be to immediately replace Monroe. I suppose that's my point.

It may not depend solely on Monroe's health - we cannot be sold yet on a single good year by Wagner. I hope last game was a combo of Von Miller and the injury and that Rick will bounce back but we'll just have to wait and see. If he turns out just average season, we'd potentially have trouble at tackle on both sides - in that case day 2 OL pick is more than likely I think.

[Underdogsontop!]

OLB, LT, CB

[Wildabeast88]

well, ive been touting these 2 names a bit, but if the ravens were enamored enough with perriman, i think dural and robinson would enamor them even more. but yea it seems like a long shot, there are just guys that legitimately could fit the mold and be available

Robinson is amazing would love that pick

[Static]

CB, WR, ILB , OL , S

 

In that order imo

[rmw10]

CB, WR, ILB , OL , S

 

In that order imo

 

…ILB?  Hope you mean OLB.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

When the Browns are better of than us at a position group, you know we're in trouble.

 

WR, CB, and OLB are killing these past 2 games, and I don't see that changing. I know injuries have eliminated Perriman and Suggs, but it goes to show we have no depth behind our guys.

 

…ILB?  Hope you mean OLB.

 No, this is the second forum he's posted about ILB, doubtful it's a typo twice

[redlobster]

Wr,olb,cb

That order

[GrimCoconut]

Wr,olb,cb

That order

Think so? I can see it, but I think it all depends on what happens and how we feel about our guys and who steps up this year. I wouldn't be surprised if we leaned on Walker or Melvin more next year if and when Webb goes. The thing is that the CB class next year is pretty talented so I'd definitely grab one of them high because they'll likely be BPA, which is obviously the other factor in picking prospects.

OLB is a quandary since I think the need is big but I'm not sure the BPA will be there when we're up. I really do like what I've seen from the pair of Georgia pass rusher, though.

WR is another position that looks strong next year. We should be able to clean up on our needs early.

[redlobster]

Think so? I can see it, but I think it all depends on what happens and how we feel about our guys and who steps up this year. I wouldn't be surprised if we leaned on Walker or Melvin more next year if and when Webb goes. The thing is that the CB class next year is pretty talented so I'd definitely grab one of them high because they'll likely be BPA, which is obviously the other factor in picking prospects.

OLB is a quandary since I think the need is big but I'm not sure the BPA will be there when we're up. I really do like what I've seen from the pair of Georgia pass rusher, though.

WR is another position that looks strong next year. We should be able to clean up on our needs early.

I picked wr first for two reasons :

1. There is no talent currently with the exception of perriman (who is an unknown still) and a bunch of jag, throw in sss retiring.

2. I think where Baltimore will be drafting they will miss out on the top crop of CB's and olb's.

[GrimCoconut]

I picked wr first for two reasons :

1. There is no talent currently with the exception of perriman (who is an unknown still) and a bunch of jag, throw in sss retiring.

2. I think where Baltimore will be drafting they will miss out on the top crop of CB's and olb's.

Yeah, it's possible. Then again, it's hard to say where we're drafting atm. We are also likely to target our obligatory cut veteran to replace Smith Sr lol.

[RaineV1]

There could be some good hybrid edge rushers in the later parts of the first round. I actually think the worst spot to go for OLB in this draft might be the middle, like 12 to 18. You miss on the potential elite ones, but it's potentially too early for some of the hybrid edge rushers that haven't actually played in a 3-4 before. If the Ravens whiff on this season, like the did back in 2013, then the top players available at a position of need would probably be WR and CB. With the possibility of a very good OT there as well.

[cushrinada1986]

I don't think we can move on from Monroe for another two years so I'm not sure LT is currently an option unless a JO talent is there.

Maybe not the first round but possibly a Raw Talent that may take time to groom. Hurst is doing what he can and Monroe is a injury concern. I like the idea of doubling down on pass rushers and WRs next season and if need be patch what parts of the defense we need with value guys at CB and S. We need some solid years dumping talent on to the offensive side. It took years on years for the Ravens to develop the defensive talent they had over the years and if we can just spend maybe the next 2 drafts doing the same we could have a really top flight offense for Flacco while he still has that massive arm of his.

[redlobster]

Yeah, it's possible. Then again, it's hard to say where we're drafting atm. We are also likely to target our obligatory cut veteran to replace Smith Sr lol.

Very true, I'm thinking about where ravens usually draft,back half of the 20's but this season might dictate a much higher pick, ala 8-13.

[lgcs27288]

Forfeit for Fournette? Replace forsett?

[rmw10]

Forfeit for Fournette? Replace forsett?

 

Not eligible until 2017.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

CB, OLB, WR, RB.

In that order. I think we get Yanda back and Urschel takes over

[PurpleCity5]

OLB and WR IMO will be the position we go after in the draft. I think we could open up the check books for a CB, not overpay but actually get a guy. I think Prince Amukamara or Trumaine Jacobs are guys we could sign. 

[GrimCoconut]

OLB and WR IMO will be the position we go after in the draft. I think we could open up the check books for a CB, not overpay but actually get a guy. I think Prince Amukamara or Trumaine Jacobs are guys we could sign.

Trumaine Johnson? Trumain Jacobs is on our PS IIRC.

Edited September 29, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[PurpleCity5]

Trumaine Johnson? Trumain Jacobs is on our PS IIRC.

Shoot, my bad. Yeah I meant him. CB From the Rams.

[GrimCoconut]

Shoot, my bad. Yeah I meant him. CB From the Rams.

I always thought he would be a beast FS. He'd be a nice complement to Jimmy Smith.

[PurpleCity5]

I always thought he would be a beast FS. He'd be a nice complement to Jimmy Smith.

Yeah for sure, especially with the size he has. I really like him if we decide to part ways with Webb.

[rmw10]

To be fair, we should probably be looking at cut candidates more than unrestricted FAs.  We all know Ozzie loves his comp picks.  I really hope we buck the trend this year.  Extra picks are always nice, but I feel we let quite a bit of talent get away because they'd affect that calculation.  I'm thinking with the number of needs we'll have, that we'll almost have to look at some unrestricted guys.

[GrimCoconut]

To be fair, we should probably be looking at cut candidates more than unrestricted FAs. We all know Ozzie loves his comp picks. I really hope we buck the trend this year. Extra picks are always nice, but I feel we let quite a bit of talent get away because they'd affect that calculation. I'm thinking with the number of needs we'll have, that we'll almost have to look at some unrestricted guys.

I agree and that changes a lot. If you sign an URFA then you also lose a compensatory pick but sometimes it's a great idea to get a proven guy. If we do sign someone it'll also likely mean that position won't be as important early on unless they've clearly BPA. That could be a great thing. It all depends where we draft imo.

[rmw10]

I agree and that changes a lot. If you sign an URFA then you also lose a compensatory pick but sometimes it's a great idea to get a proven guy. If we do sign someone it'll also likely mean that position won't be as important early on unless they've clearly BPA. That could be a great thing. It all depends where we draft imo.

 

Yep.  I think we've had a great run with comp picks, but sometimes, you have to pony up to get the guy you want.  Just last year, we passed on Edelman because of his unrestricted status in addition to thinking we could get a similar guy in Camp.  I don't think Edelman would have the same success here as he's having in New England, but I still think he'd be highly effective and an important part of this offense.  If we was cut, regardless of what we thought of Camp, I think we would have had no problem paying him the $5M a year.  That move makes you wonder how many other guys we've passed on that we could actually afford.

[Maryland]

I doubt we'll be in position to get one of the top two LT prospects, but if Tunsil or Stanley were there, I'm sure it would be hard for Ozzie to pass up. Finding franchise LT's is so hard to do drafting in the 20's every year. 

 

However, LT aside, I would rank WR, CB, and EDGE all pretty evenly. FS also a concern unless Brooks steps up. Have to keep G and OT on the radar for depth/future starters. A ROLB to potentially replace Upshaw and an ILB to potentially replace Daryl should be on the radar too. 

 

Hargreaves is probably my favorite player in this draft. Were it not for eligibility rules, he could have went pro last draft and been a top-10 pick. The most pro-ready CB since Haden.

Edited September 30, 2015 by Maryland

[JoeyFlex5]

I doubt we'll be in position to get one of the top two LT prospects, but if Tunsil or Stanley were there, I'm sure it would be hard for Ozzie to pass up. Finding franchise LT's is so hard to do drafting in the 20's every year. 

 

However, LT aside, I would rank WR, CB, and EDGE all pretty evenly. FS also a concern unless Brooks steps up. Have to keep G and OT on the radar for depth/future starters. A ROLB to potentially replace Upshaw and an ILB to potentially replace Daryl should be on the radar too. 

 

Hargreaves is probably my favorite player in this draft. Were it not for eligibility rules, he could have went pro last draft and been a top-10 pick. The most pro-ready CB since Haden.

i have to say, i am not buying into the notion that cb is our need on defense, we could use one, but compared to FS it is a way overrated need. FS is the single biggest gaping hole on this roster and terrence brooks needs to make a godlike leap to change that.

[GrimCoconut]

i have to say, i am not buying into the notion that cb is our need on defense, we could use one, but compared to FS it is a way overrated need. FS is the single biggest gaping hole on this roster and terrence brooks needs to make a godlike leap to change that.

I couldn't agree more. I've been calling for a FS since 2013. I'm really hoping Brooks pans out but I hope and don't believe we'd pass on a talent like Ramsey. I can't see it happening. There's admittedly much football to go, though, so I'll be patient and wait. Many things can happen between now and May.

Draft position, injury, and player performance will shape who we get. I don't think we'll pass on Ramsey even if Brooks plays great. Nothing wrong with two great safeties or even three.