[News] Late For Work 7/8: Steve Bisciotti Gives Real Reason Ray Lewis Retired

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Bisciotti: Coaching beneath Lewis. Offensive stability huge in AFC North. Biggest free-agent impact?

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[RavensInNC]

7th tier, what a joke. How many of Flacco's interceptions were because Torrey Smith just gave up on the play and either didn't go for the ball or didn't try to stop the defender from catching it? Now that Torrey is gone for the 2015 season I see Joe skyrocketing up on that list. Joe throws a great ball its just that his receivers let him down at the worst time (Lee Evans, TJ housmansada, Boldin, Torrey Smith)

Warning!: The below videos are very hard to watch as a Ravens fan.

Lee Evens Drop:

Anquan Boldin Drop :

TJ Houshmandzadeh drop :

 

Edit: Sorry mod about the Torrey video, I didn't have the speakers on when I watched it.

Edited July 8, 2015 by RavensInNC
Link to video containing profanity removed

[L.A.Ravens]

Kendrick lewis is really good. In ozzie we trust. He is really good in real life and in madden.. lol.. was playing Texans and he picked me off twice in a game and didn't get mad because he's a raven now, lost the game so restarted won the second time but Kendrick lewis picked it off again.. it's ok... he's now a raven haha

[trevorsteadman]

Another Flacco hater. I'm over it... Just shove the words back down their throats next season Flacco by having your best season yet. They hate us because they ain't us.

[757RavensFan]

I can't blame Ray Lewis one bit for knowing that it was time for him to retire.  You have to respect a man who knows when it's time to call it quits. The timing couldn't have been better considering he was going to retire in 2013 regardless.  So going out w/ the Lombardi is the ultimate way to go.  Us fans were lucky to have arguably the best MLB to ever play represent our city. 

[roamingcharges]

Okay Training Camp needs to get here in a hurry (knee jerk reaction of an O's fan after what was a terrible game last night)!

[salamander]

The Ray Lewis retirement added fuel to the fire in that Super Bowl run. One day somebody in Hollywood is going to actually make that Ray Lewis movie, the storybook ending pretty much wrote itself. If done right, I think it could be a big box office hit and eventual sports movie classic.

Edited July 8, 2015 by salamander

[Crusader]

Okay Training Camp needs to get here in a hurry (knee jerk reaction of an O's fan after what was a terrible game last night)!

Just last night? They are just too hard to watch.

[Rat]

O's may be hard to watch...but they are the best in their Division.....

[fusuymada]

Personally, I think we are not only stable on offense, but better. I think Perriman brings better ball skills even with the questions of drops. Remember, Torrey dropped everything thrown his way during his rookie training camp, preseason and first couple games. Torrey actually made his first catch all the way into the third game of the season where he broke out against St Louis. But from day 1 Torrey was never a strong, go up and get the ball type of receiver. If Pitta is healthy I would take him over Owen Daniels any day and I am not certain Maxx Williams wont be better than Daniels. I am very happy with our offense and finally am really looking forward to this season.

[MichaelJ34]

So a former Patriots and Steelers writer bashing Joe calling him a 7th tier QB? Ok shocking... Joe will just continue to do what he does and that is WIN! and when he gets his 2nd SB and has an even better year in his 2nd year in the west coast offense, well we can see them saying he is 9th or 10th tier ... Whatever man

Haters

[MichaelJ34]

Ravens didnt lose anything on offense the seriously upgraded over Torrey and Owen Daniels.

[sami]

I would take a reporter from the 10th tier to put Flacco in the 7th tier

[Mystigo_Dragon]

Ray Lewis: "I can't come back from another injury and I won't take a chance on walking away hurt."

 

Dennis Pitta, heed 'Musafa'... walk away! 

Edited July 8, 2015 by Mystigo_Dragon

[MYTH420]

I think Arrington will be better for us. He's a great slot CB and that's what we need. Lewis is OK. If you look at his numbers last year, he was awful. PFF had him graded lower then Stewart. Almost as low as Elam. Yes, he could have just had a bad year. But with Hill back there, I think we'll be OK. Personally, I'd rather see Elam beat out Lewis, but I definitely hope Lewis has a great year. A lot of players improve their game when they come to the Ravens.

[757RavensFan]

Ravens didnt lose anything on offense the seriously upgraded over Torrey and Owen Daniels.

 

If Pitta doesn't return, I would say that Owen Daniels is currently better than the TE's we have.

BTW, why Owen Daniels doesn't get as much flack for his TD drop vs the Pats as Torrey not fighting for the ball, is a head scratcher.

[respecttheRaven]

Ray Lewis: "I can't come back from another injury and I won't take a chance on walking away hurt."

 

Dennis Pitta, heed 'Musafa'... walk away! 

I was thinking the same thing.I would LOVE for Pitta to come back and have that miracle comeback........i just think that would be a really tough hill to climb. Also, I do not want to see him carted off the field again!   

Edited July 8, 2015 by respecttheRaven

[Halshayeji]

7th tier, what a joke. How many of Flacco's interceptions were because Torrey Smith just gave up on the play and either didn't go for the ball or didn't try to stop the defender from catching it? Now that Torrey is gone for the 2015 season I see Joe skyrocketing up on that list. Joe throws a great ball its just that his receivers let him down at the worst time (Lee Evans, TJ housmansada, Boldin, Torrey Smith)

Warning!: The below videos are very hard to watch as a Ravens fan.

Lee Evens Drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIH-GrnnPVM

Anquan Boldin Drop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0fpONkw6yk

TJ Houshmandzadeh drop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqWCAoImpu0

Edit: Sorry mod about the Torrey video, I didn't have the speakers on when I watched it.

Tho i don't agree with a the extent of what you are saying because Torrey also caught more lobs from Flacco than anyone else and stretched the field. I do commend you for showing those videos. OMG they never get old

[Darkraven23]

I hate getting on my high horse but i must first off think this offense is stable and i think in time not immediately but in time bp and max williams will help as well on the torrey he was a speedster and when joe needed him most he would make the big play that said throwing into double coverage with a corner and saftey in front and behind u is never good idea regardless of the wide reciever unless your megatron at 6'5 and not 6'2 u dont have a shot joe had an open short throw to kamar aiken on the right side if u look and it could have went for the first down and out of bounds instead taking the risk no fault in doing so was a little to soon and we got burnt so having said that the only thing i can think of is its not torrey's fault or joe because as we all forget belicheck is a former defensive coach and finds a way to win. and finally i believe with these young recivers especially brown aiken and butler we have a shot at getting joe out of that 7th teir and a whole lot higher

[balfan23]

Just so glad that Ray didn't re-injure himself during the playoff run, because then he would have ended his career injured. Yes, it was storybook. Glad the GOAT got to go out on his own terms.

[balfan23]

So a former Patriots and Steelers writer bashing Joe calling him a 7th tier QB? Ok shocking... Joe will just continue to do what he does and that is WIN! and when he gets his 2nd SB and has an even better year in his 2nd year in the west coast offense, well we can see them saying he is 9th or 10th tier ... Whatever man Haters

Is that what he is? I just looked at his pic and he looks like he's about 15 years old. How is it that these guys are even taken seriously. All I have to do is look at the list and see Geno Smith rated above him and say, this has to be some kind of joke, right? 

[runcontrol]

So a former Patriots and Steelers writer bashing Joe calling him a 7th tier QB? Ok shocking... Joe will just continue to do what he does and that is WIN! and when he gets his 2nd SB and has an even better year in his 2nd year in the west coast offense, well we can see them saying he is 9th or 10th tier ... Whatever man Haters

 

Did you see the list of qbs?  Its one of the worst I have ever seen.  It was like he threw darts at all the qb names and based on the order of the throw is the order he went with.  On that day he stated that Flacco was so low because he had too many incompletions, while playing on a team with a qb friendly offense.  Philly, Atlanta, Indy(Luck's and Foles' comp% is lower than Flacco's), those teams have a qb friendly offense, i don't think Baltimore does.  But playing in a west coast offense definitely helped Flacco.  But in a completely separate article and tweet, he talks about how Flacco had too many interceptable balls.  Not balls that were intercepted, balls that he thinks should have been intercepted.  

 

I have never heard of such a ridiculous way to measure a qb in my life.  Unless the receiver is completely wide open you can make the argument that, that ball could have been intercepted. But according to him he went back and watched every NFL game, except the Lions because their videos wouldn't play,  and kept a tally of every interceptable ball and when it happened. 

[slowboater]

Cian Fahey is preaching to "his" choir. Good for him. Let this #21 rated hack roll over "his" teams. Perfect justice.

[hen826957]

When I look at Joe rating on the Russell Street Report LMAO. It's a joke it really is. Who is the right mind choose Jay Culter, Geno Smith, Teddy Bridgewater, etc over Joe Flacco. Please don't come with that crap. He even put Jameis Winsten and Marcus Mariota (who never play a down in the NFL) ahead of Joe for christ's sake. This guy has no idea what he talking about and deep down I don't believe he mean those ratings or he would have to be an complete idiot. These guys would never come even close to Flacco success period end of story.

[jdynamite]

I usually don't get wrapped up in rankings, but this one is just too out of whack.. We have players that don't even have enough games under their belt to compare yet ranked ahead of Flacco, like Mariota hasn't taken a snap in the NFL, Sam Bradford hasn't played in over year but gets the benefit of the doubt because he is playing in Chip Kelly system if healthy enough to play, Teddy Bridgewater did impress me as a rookie and I expect him to improve going forward but he shouldn't be ranked that highly.

PLayers like R.Tannehill & Geno Smith seemingly get passes for their faults: Tannehill's deep ball issues are overrated according to this guy, but last year the Dolphins basically ran the offense as if Alex Smith were the QB short passes nearly every play sure he is completing a high percentage 26 out 36 passes for maybe 230 yards but he also taking a ton of sacks. Cutler, Cam Newton, are too erratic as passers, they both have too many over throws or under throws in the dirt to compare to Flacco whom the writer says "Accuracy was really bad." I don't even think Flacco's horrible 2013 season would warrant a ranking this low. And 2013 season is really an outlier when it comes to Flacco's career its the only season where he threw over 12 interceptions.

[blitzking33]

If Pitta doesn't return, I would say that Owen Daniels is currently better than the TE's we have.

BTW, why Owen Daniels doesn't get as much flack for his TD drop vs the Pats as Torrey not fighting for the ball, is a head scratcher.

I'd take a dropped pass over a given up play any day.

[757RavensFan]

I'd take a dropped pass over a given up play any day.

Yeah but if OD doesn't drop that TD pass, Flacco's pass to Torrey never happens, bc we only need a FG to win.

[Cillmatic]

I'd take a dropped pass over a given up play any day.

Lee Evans is acceptable now?

[trevorsteadman]

I hate getting on my high horse but i must first off think this offense is stable and i think in time not immediately but in time bp and max williams will help as well on the torrey he was a speedster and when joe needed him most he would make the big play that said throwing into double coverage with a corner and saftey in front and behind u is never good idea regardless of the wide reciever unless your megatron at 6'5 and not 6'2 u dont have a shot joe had an open short throw to kamar aiken on the right side if u look and it could have went for the first down and out of bounds instead taking the risk no fault in doing so was a little to soon and we got burnt so having said that the only thing i can think of is its not torrey's fault or joe because as we all forget belicheck is a former defensive coach and finds a way to win. and finally i believe with these young recivers especially brown aiken and butler we have a shot at getting joe out of that 7th teir and a whole lot higher

If Torrey Smith went up for it and kept running that pass was on point... And with only so much time left in that game I think it was a good call to go into the endzone. It just wasn't that play Torrey Smith didn't try on if you look at the tape there are several plays he looks like he doesn't care. I love and respect the guy but that game made me not wanting Baltimore to resign him. He wouldn't block for Forsett... During play action he wouldn't sell the play... From the first quarter I knew he wasn't going to have a good game. Also I agree about throwing a ball into double coverage but Torrey had that first guy beat and the safety was playing too far back that could have easily been caught. I wish we had a receiver like Megatron... 3 inches taller than Perriman with a 6 1/2" higher vertical jump... Hopefully Perriman can make up that 9 and a half inches with his speed. 

[blitzking33]

Lee Evans is acceptable now?

 

 

Yeah but if OD doesn't drop that TD pass, Flacco's pass to Torrey never happens, bc we only need a FG to win.

Going home from a dropped pass is better than going home from a Raven who gave up on the play that ends the season. Did I say it's acceptable? No.

 

And if you want to talk drops not being acceptable, why don't you bring up Boldin too while you're at it.