Ravens 3rd healthiest team in last 2 seasons.

[Tenacious Faulker]

It seems like a mistake, but take the secondary injuries out and I think the team is healthiest by far.

http://russellstreetreport.com/2015/07/06/ravens-links/ravens-3rd-healthiest-team-past-2-years/

 

I recall the last SB, the Ravens headed into the playofffs I believe as the healiest team (or maybe 2nd healthiest) in 2012 and there were a few articles about how the team conditioned its players to attain this goal including concussion prevention (shoulder and neck strengthening).  

 

While the team loaded up on players at its weak positons (DB, DL, WR, and TE) to fortify its depth, its low attrition rate is deffintely key to its success.

[rmcjacket23]

Its all about quality of injured players rather than quantity of injured players. I have no issue with having 15 guys on IR...as long as most of them are reserves or backups.

 

We can have 30 guys on IR and still win plenty of games, but if we have one guy on IR, and its Joe Flacco, we will lose more than we win.

 

Health is a relative term, because it implies that every play is created equal, which they clearly aren't.

[Inqui]

That's a surprise, but most of our injuries last season were concentrated in the secondary and I don't recall us copping too many the season before. I guess I can believe it, and that goes to show it can always get worse.

[BmoreBird22]

I thought I read somewhere that they were the seventh, but we have to remember that it's not the volume of the injuries, it's the quality. Both starting tackles were hurt, the Ravens best corner was hurt, Brooks, who was being rotated in a good bit, got hurt, the Ravens lost several corners, etc. Just a lot going on

[Tenacious Faulker]

Its all about quality of injured players rather than quantity of injured players. I have no issue with having 15 guys on IR...as long as most of them are reserves or backups.

 

We can have 30 guys on IR and still win plenty of games, but if we have one guy on IR, and its Joe Flacco, we will lose more than we win.

 

Health is a relative term, because it implies that every play is created equal, which they clearly aren't.

Someone else I know mentioned quantity vs quality too.  I wonder if they don't count the injuries before week 1 so players expected to contribute (i.e. Pitta, KLM, and Urban) weren't counted.  It's weird that the past 3 seasons we've battled secondary injuries. Obviously we overcame them in 2012 and if not for some Belicheating this year we may've made the Sb again desoite the injuries in the secondary.  There's got to be a reason for this more than bad luck.

 

Anyone care to venture a theory?

[redrum52]

Someone else I know mentioned quantity vs quality too. I wonder if they don't count the injuries before week 1 so players expected to contribute (i.e. Pitta, KLM, and Urban) weren't counted. It's weird that the past 3 seasons we've battled secondary injuries. Obviously we overcame them in 2012 and if not for some Belicheating this year we may've made the Sb again desoite the injuries in the secondary. There's got to be a reason for this more than bad luck.

Anyone care to venture a theory?

It feels like whenever this team is hit, it's usually in the secondary for some reason. Or at least a key player in the back end.

[RealChampsFan]

I was surprised at this with all the injuries we had last year. Ravens had no business being in playoffs

with all those injuries especially to secondary. They never had Jimmy and Webbie playing at the same

time. We go to the SB last year if Jimmy doesn't go down for the year. Ravens signed a guy who wasn't

even playing football and won the wild card game in Pitt for the first time ever with him and an undrafted

LT who was the first to ever start a wild card game and we won. 

 

Great coaching brought the team up and look what Castillo whom everyone wanted to off a year ago did

with Wagner. Ravens had the best right side of an oline in NFL and even Urschel filled in well as a rookie

and could be the future Center or G. Hurst will be ready to take over for Monroe when his contract 

expires.

 

It took a trick play and a lot of cheating to beat that banged up secondary in NE which had the lead by 2 TD

twice, in NE and in February.

Edited July 20, 2015 by RealChampsFan

[Tenacious Faulker]

It feels like whenever this team is hit, it's usually in the secondary for some reason. Or at least a key player in the back end.

Yeah, but why the secondary?  Is it bad luck for this group or something that the coaching has overlooked in talent selection, training or conditioning? 

[RealChampsFan]

Corner back is a very difficult position to play. You're running backwards and doing a lot of it.

On top of that you're doing a lot of tackling that's going to bang you up.

On top of that you have 5'8 CBs covering 6'6 receivers and going up for the ball and geting

out-punched on jump balls by bigger and faster receivers.

 

Look at Jimmy Smith.  I don't think he missed a game in college but he goes down in first pro

game playing on special teams and then this year with foot injury. He's going vs bigger

receivers than in college and better route runners.

 

Webbie is another one who is a good CB but we won the SB w/o him and he missed most of

another season plus most of last year. He got hurt first week of camp and we never

had him and Jimmy on the field at the same time last year.  

AsA Jackson, a backup CB seems to get injured a lot.

 

It's just the nature of the position in my opinion with all that running, covering and collisions.

 

It's a shame you can't go to the practices at camp like in the past and see the drills they go through

to prevent injuries.

 

 

 

BASKETBALL IS A CONTACT SPORT. FOOTBALL IS A COLLISION SPORT.

 

BILL CURRY, BALTIMORE COLTS

Edited July 20, 2015 by RealChampsFan

[Tenacious Faulker]

It's just the nature of the position in my opinion with all that running, covering and collisions.

 

It's a shame you can't go to the practices at camp like in the past and see the drills they go through

to prevent injuries.

I'm not sure that it's more demanding than any other position especially when you consider running back and inside linebacker taking hits like they do.  Corners are more slightly built and while Jimmy is on the larger side of the position, his injuries seem more conditioning related.  Webby is small-ish for the NFL and it seem that no amount of conditioning would prepare him for a long and health football career.  Still his ACLs and back issues seem more due to conditioning.  Jackson (concussion/Knee)...he's small like Webby, Brooks (MCL/PCL)...another knee.  Gorrer (MCL/PCL and Groin)...yet another knee.  Then you get a hard hitter like Will Hill who's an average size for SS and he's fine.  Even Darian Stewart was health for 16 games for the for the frst time ever playing both FS and SS last year.

 

I guess working through this I'm seeing that the DBs need to strengthen the muscles in their lower lower bodies and their knees in particular.  

[RealChampsFan]

I never said it was more demanding than any position, just a lot

of running, covering and hitting via collisions with smaller guys

going up vs bigger guys and getting out-punched along the way.

[beasy2487]

I'm not sure that it's more demanding than any other position especially when you consider running back and inside linebacker taking hits like they do. Corners are more slightly built and while Jimmy is on the larger side of the position, his injuries seem more conditioning related. Webby is small-ish for the NFL and it seem that no amount of conditioning would prepare him for a long and health football career. Still his ACLs and back issues seem more due to conditioning. Jackson (concussion/Knee)...he's small like Webby, Brooks (MCL/PCL)...another knee. Gorrer (MCL/PCL and Groin)...yet another knee. Then you get a hard hitter like Will Hill who's an average size for SS and he's fine. Even Darian Stewart was health for 16 games for the for the frst time ever playing both FS and SS last year.

I guess working through this I'm seeing that the DBs need to strengthen the muscles in their lower lower bodies and their knees in particular.

Webb tore his ACLs and Jimmy broke his foot because of poor conditioning?!?! What?