2015 Draft a Franchise (NBA): Discussion Thread

[Inqui]

And we have a Sixer off the board, and I know it's a typo, but it says "with the 3rd pick." Fitting since we end up picking 3rd every year, haha. Love that at least one of my boys is drafted as a starter in a fantasy draft. Now I can stop checking in for a while.

Good to see I'm not the only one who hates the Cavs for that.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

And we have a Sixer off the board, and I know it's a typo, but it says "with the 3rd pick." Fitting since we end up picking 3rd every year, haha. Love that at least one of my boys is drafted as a starter in a fantasy draft. Now I can stop checking in for a while.

 

Just watched y'all play in Summer League. You have a lot to look forward to–maybe a few years down the road–my friend

Edited July 7, 2015 by BALTIMOREFLACCO

[-Truth-]

I agree with your assessment of Conley and Harden. I was considering taking Conley in the second just because I felt like he was the best compliment to Harden as well. Conley is a smart, high IQ point guard, and like you said, he's used to sacrificing to Gasol and ___. He actually enjoys getting his teammates involved and doing the dirty work on defense, and I love players like that. Having Conley and Harden will help DeRozan out. He won't need to take high volume shots, as he is almost "____-like" in the way he shoots for the Raptors. Like you said, DDR is somewhat of a ball-stopper when the ball is in his hands. Conley and Harden will certainly be my primary ball handlers, so the pressure for DDR to create for himself and for teammates will decrease. I won't need him to shoot as much, which means he won't jack shots that lower his field goal percentage. I want him to attack the lane/hoop, as he has length and a decently fast burst to allow him to get by defenders. If he beats his defender, he can take it in or kick out to Harden and Conley who are solid from the outside. A kick out to Green can lead to a potential open shot or Green is a smart player who can dribble in or make the extra pass. I think Harden and DeRozan could draw a lot of fouls on opposing teams due to their style of play. This past season, Harden was number 1 in free throws attempted per game (10.2) with a 86.8%, and DeRozan was 5th (7.2) with a 83.2%. 

 

Point guard is pretty deep. Getting two of the best SF/wing players is a solid strategy. George is an all-around player, and I like his passing ability. I wouldn't call him a "point-forward," but he likes to get his teammates involved and usually makes the smart pass/play with the ball in his hands. Kawhi is a stud, and his best basketball is in front of him. He, too, is a smart all-around player. With both George and Kawhi being unselfish all-around players, that duo should work nicely. I didn't watch the Heat too much this past year, but Whiteside certainly caught my attention. His potential is certainly their, as he had some monster games this past year. 12 blocks to go along with 14 points and 13 rebounds for a triple-double is no fluke, the talent is there. Putting it together for a full season with minutes is what I'm interested to see. He averaged 23.8 minutes per game, in 48 games played, with a stat line of 11.8 ppg, 10 rpg, and 2.8 bpg. If he plays a majority of games next season with closer to 28-30 minutes per game, he should put together a real solid campaign. Wade is still a good player. And yes, having George and Leonard should help Wade out on both offense and defense. Wade still has the mid-range and in game, and he won't lose his passing ability and high IQ for the game. 

 

Removed a few names from the conversation, but I agreed wholeheartedly on the assessment of Conley and how well he fits. Agreed again on the usage of DeRozan. Exactly how I'd personally prefer to see him used. Green stepped up as a passer in the playoffs, so concur that kicking it out to Green would be a smart strategy since he'd either take an open look or pass it out to Conley or Harden if he's being closed in on. Good point about the FT attempts. Always a positive to have that available, especially when you're overcoming a deficit.

 

Agreed once again. Here's how I see my current roster. I also wouldn't label George a P-F neither, though I agree that he's a capable passer for his position. That being said, I thought that George was sometimes stagnant with the ball in his hands during his last healthy season. In fact, outside of scoring in the paint, he was at his best in catch and shoot situations especially from beyond the arc. He converted 43.6% of such attempts, which was ahead of sharpshooters like Wesley Matthews and not far behind the likes of Klay Thompson. George also shot over 46.3% and 52.0% on corner threes, so he should help the offense with spacing when he's moving off-the-ball. That's mostly the reason I went with Wade. As you've mentioned, he has a very high IQ, and he's a slasher with crafty mid-range and post-up games who's more than willing to pass the rock to the open shooters. He built up a rapport with Whiteside last season, whose assisted buckets came mostly from Wade. The duo was a very solid P&R combination and I would expect to utilize Whiteside as the roll man from both the high and low post on a consistent basis. I agree with the points on Whiteside as well. The craziest part about the aforementioned game is that the output happened in just 24 minutes of playing time. Leonard is a very efficient scorer himself and is capable from any area of the floor. I'd like to have him closer to the rim given his rebounding ability, but he could certainly leak outside beyond the arc if the defense closes in on Wade when he's driving. It helps that every member on my team is solid from the mid-range. The roster is obviously far from finished, but I like the way the dynamic looks at the moment. Though I'm sure that's what everyone thinks about their team.

Edited July 7, 2015 by -Truth-

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

#backsidestrongside

[-Truth-]

same here. Thankfully, im drafting well. But now im going to have to start drafting guys i've never seen play

 

KDUBB44 has been skipped and you are on the clock.

[MoveThoseChains]

Removed a few names from the conversation, but I agreed wholeheartedly on the assessment of Conley and how well he fits. Agreed again on the usage of DeRozan. Exactly how I'd personally prefer to see him used. Green stepped up as a passer in the playoffs, so concur that kicking it out to Green would be a smart strategy since he'd either take an open look or pass it out to Conley or Harden if he's being closed in on. Good point about the FT attempts. Always a positive to have that available, especially when you're overcoming a deficit.

 

Agreed once again. Here's how I see my current roster. I also wouldn't label George a P-F neither, though I agree that he's a capable passer for his position. That being said, I thought that George was sometimes stagnant with the ball in his hands during his last healthy season. In fact, outside of scoring in the paint, he was at his best in catch and shoot situations especially from beyond the arc. He converted 43.6% of such attempts, which was ahead of sharpshooters like Wesley Matthews and not far behind the likes of Klay Thompson. George also shot over 46.3% and 52.0% on corner threes, so he should help the offense with spacing when he's moving off-the-ball. That's mostly the reason I went with Wade. As you've mentioned, he has a very high IQ, and he's a slasher with crafty mid-range and post-up games who's more than willing to pass the rock to the open shooters. He built up a rapport with Whiteside last season, whose assisted buckets came mostly from Wade. The duo was a very solid P&R combination and I would expect to utilize Whiteside as the roll man from both the high and low post on a consistent basis. I agree with the points on Whiteside as well. The craziest part about the aforementioned game is that the output happened in just 24 minutes of playing time. Leonard is a very efficient scorer himself and is capable from any area of the floor. I'd like to have him closer to the rim given his rebounding ability, but he could certainly leak outside beyond the arc if the defense closes in on Wade when he's driving. It helps that every member on my team is solid from the mid-range. The roster is obviously far from finished, but I like the way the dynamic looks at the moment. Though I'm sure that's what everyone thinks about their team.

 

Sorry about the mentioning of names..again. Completely forgot whilst typing that paragraph. And yes, every team in here can think that they have a good team, as they should. That's the ultimate goal, so the more good teams the better. Everyone is off to a pretty good start imo. 

[-Truth-]

Sorry about the mentioning of names..again. Completely forgot whilst typing that paragraph. And yes, every team in here can think that they have a good team, as they should. That's the ultimate goal, so the more good teams the better. Everyone is off to a pretty good start imo. 

 

It's all good. It's very difficult to avoid, especially when you're attempting to rationalize a thought and there are examples including existing players that would help paint a clearer picture of the point that's being made. I, for example, almost used another name alongside of Wesley Matthews until I realized that he wasn't selected yet. I agree on the latter points.

[beanfigger]

Just watched y'all play in Summer League. You have a lot to look forward to–maybe a few years down the road–my friend

We're just waiting out the King, and then the East is ours. But seriously, I do get optimistic watching Summer League games. That is until they trade away all the guys I start to see potential in. I think Nerlens will be the first to stick around and give us something to build around, and we have at least one other who looks to be primed to be a big part of our future.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

We're just waiting out the King, and then the East is ours. But seriously, I do get optimistic watching Summer League games. That is until they trade away all the guys I start to see potential in. I think Nerlens will be the first to stick around and give us something to build around, and we have at least one other who looks to be primed to be a big part of our future.

Sixers have a bright future but it doesn't change the fact that I hated your draft pick this year. No offense.

You have two bigs I love. One I hate. You could use a PG

[Inqui]

Sixers have a bright future but it doesn't change the fact that I hated your draft pick this year. No offense.

You have two bigs I love. One I hate. You could use a PG

I thought their class was interesting, but given the circumstances I don't think there was an awful lot they could do given [withholds name in fear of Truth's wrath] was off the board and [withholds name in fear of Truth's wrath] would have been a pretty big reach. I love Nerlens (though as with Oladipo I wonder about his ceiling and role as a centrepiece) and I'll comment on the other bigs once they come off the board, but like I said in the other thread my reservations about the rebuild are ideological more than anything.

Given the circumstances I think they can wait on a PG.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

I thought their class was interesting, but given the circumstances I don't think there was an awful lot they could do given [withholds name in fear of Truth's wrath] was off the board and [withholds name in fear of Truth's wrath] would have been a pretty big reach. I love Nerlens (though as with Oladipo I wonder about his ceiling and role as a centrepiece) and I'll comment on the other bigs once they come off the board, but like I said in the other thread my reservations about the rebuild are ideological more than anything.

Given the circumstances I think they can wait on a PG.

 

Agreed 

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Thrilled that Middleton made it back to me, I almost took him over Rose last time.

 

He's 23, shoots over 40 percent from downtown, 52 percent on corner 3's, scored 17 points per game since the all star break when he got real minutes, can pass the ball and is an absolute stud on defense. 

 

Just a fun fact I have two of the top-5 corner three ball shooters in the league. 

 

In my opinion Middleton is the best 3 and D player the in the game right now, and he's only 23. 

Edited July 7, 2015 by BALTIMOREFLACCO

[MoveThoseChains]

Thrilled that Middleton made it back to me, I almost took him over Rose last time.

 

He's 23, shoots over 40 percent from downtown, 52 percent on corner 3's, scored 17 points per game since the all star break when he got real minutes, can pass the ball and is an absolute stud on defense. 

 

Just a fun fact I have two of the top-5 corner three ball shooters in the league. 

 

In my opinion Middleton is the best 3 and D player the in the game right now, and he's only 23. 

 

Nice pick. He was high up on my remaining shooting guard list. At 6'7, he is capable of playing SF, too. I knew he heated up and stayed hot last season, but had no idea he shot 52 percent on corner 3's. That's pretty sick. I picked him up in every season long fantasy league I was in last year (when he started heating up) and never dropped him. He's an underrated player, and young like you mentioned. I believe people will start to notice his game this upcoming season and into the future.

[-Truth-]

Good pick in Middleton.

[gabefergy]

I was hoping Danny Green would make it back to me.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Nice pick. He was high up on my remaining shooting guard list. At 6'7, he is capable of playing SF, too. I knew he heated up and stayed hot last season, but had no idea he shot 52 percent on corner 3's. That's pretty sick. I picked him up in every season long fantasy league I was in last year (when he started heating up) and never dropped him. He's an underrated player, and young like you mentioned. I believe people will start to notice his game this upcoming season and into the future.

Appreciate it, couldn't Agree more.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Excellent selection in Green.

[Challenge Accepted]

Thanks all. I was gonna get middleton, but he was just taken

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Thanks all. I was gonna get middleton, but he was just taken

 

Haha, well if it's any consolation, Green was the guy I was going to take if you took Middleton in time.

[-Truth-]

Ah cmon man. Had the gif ready and all. Good pick

You're on the clock.

[Inqui]

Did Challenge Accepted get skipped or something? I thought he had back-to-back picks.

[-Truth-]

Did Challenge Accepted get skipped or something? I thought he had back-to-back picks.

He did. I made Ed_Reed20's pick as soon as he was skipped.

[Inqui]

He did. I made Ed_Reed20's pick as soon as he was skipped.

So what kind of clock is KDUBB on? I see the Goran Dragic make-up pick hasn't been logged so he shouldn't be on autoskip.

I'm confused.

[-Truth-]

So what kind of clock is KDUBB on? I see the Goran Dragic make-up pick hasn't been logged so he shouldn't be on autoskip.

I'm confused.

 

He wasn't though he is now. He made his selection and was on a three hour clock because he was skipped every single time he was on the clock up until that point. Ed_Reed20 made his selection of Noel at 7:51 PM EST. KDUBB was skipped 3 hours thereafter, and Challenge Accepted was skipped 12 hours after that. I made the next selection for Ed_Reed20 at 10:52 AM, 15 hours after his last selection. That put Challenge Accepted on autoskip, so despite the fact that he made his selection of Carter-Williams, BALTIMOREFLACCO was already on the clock.

[-Truth-]

Good pick in Lopez.

[Gordo52]

Kevin Love, Tristian Thompson & Brook Lopez. I'm happy with them.

Lopez was going off late in the year last season. He has an injury history but I don't think it's too serious. Thompson coming off the bench is best for my team.

I surrounded Russell with some talented big men... He can shoot it 30+ times a night on my team. No problem with me. Love will be the #2 option and Lopez the #3 while The Freak continues to develop.

[Gordo52]

Good pick in Lopez.

Thanks and thanks for reminding me I was up.

[-Truth-]

Thanks and thanks for reminding me I was up.

 

No problem. I was expecting him to go slightly earlier. He struggles as a rebounder for his size and position, but he's a good defender, an efficient scorer and is terrific in the post-up. Good complement to Love in my eyes considering that Love has no issues on the boards.

[MoveThoseChains]

Damn Lopez was #1 on my board. Nice pick

[allblackraven]

Is it my turn?