Top 20 Ravens

[52liveforever]

So They are doing the top 20 again. I thought it might be cool to see what different people think?

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20548/will-joe-flacco-remain-atop-ravens-top-20-list-in-2015

My list is:1. Marshall Yanda

2. Joe Flacco

3. Terrell Suggs

4. Justin Forsett

5. Steve Smith

6. CJ Mosely

7. Jimmy Smith

8. Kelechi Osemele

9. Elvis Dumervil

10. Brandon Williams

11. Daryl Smith

12. Eugene Monroe

13. Justin Tucker

14. Will Hill

15. Rick Wagner

16. Jeremy Zuttah

17. Cortney Upshaw

18. Ladarius Webb

19. Sam Koch

20. John Urschel

Edited June 30, 2015 by 52liveforever

[RavensFanMania]

 think Jimmy Smith should be higher on your list.  He's one of the best CB in the league or was one of the top CB's before he went down with an injury.

[Cillmatic]

Jimmy's number 2. He's a better CB than Flacco is a QB.

[redrum52]

Jimmy's number 2. He's a better CB than Flacco is a QB.

We had this problem trying to make a top list last time. Best player at their position or a combo of importance and position they play. I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of what you said as well.

[Cillmatic]

We had this problem trying to make a top list last time. Best player at their position or a combo of importance and position they play. I'm pretty sure I said something along the lines of what you said as well.

If the list is called top players it should be by best by position. Most valuable is a whole other list IMO.

[52liveforever]

 think Jimmy Smith should be higher on your list.  He's one of the best CB in the league or was one of the top CB's before he went down with an injury.

 

The only reason he's not higher is b.c of the injuries and not feeling completely comfortable with him. if he can avoid the injury bug I think he will be able to prove himself one of the top 3 guys on the team.

[BmoreBird22]

The only reason he's not higher is b.c of the injuries and not feeling completely comfortable with him. if he can avoid the injury bug I think he will be able to prove himself one of the top 3 guys on the team.

What do you mean...?

[52liveforever]

What do you mean...?

 

Hopefully he just doesn't get hurt again., but also I know first hand how coming back from multiple injuries can affect you mentally on how you may do things in fear of getting hurt again. you aren't consciously thinking about it, but you definitely react differently after injuries. I'm not saying that Jimmy will be affected by it, but its just something that concerns me.

[BmoreBird22]

Hopefully he just doesn't get hurt again., but also I know first hand how coming back from multiple injuries can affect you mentally on how you may do things in fear of getting hurt again. you aren't consciously thinking about it, but you definitely react differently after injuries. I'm not saying that Jimmy will be affected by it, but its just something that concerns me.

Well, this was an injury that wasn't contact forced, it appeared. I think that'll change the mentality, to be honest.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1. Marshal Yanda

2. Jimmy Smith

3. Joe Flacco

4. Terrell Suggs

5. CJ Mosley

6. Justin Tucker

7. Elvis Dumervil

8. Kelechi Osemele

9. Rick Wagner

10. Brandon Williams

11. Daryl Smith

12. Will Hill

13. Timmy Jernigan

14. Steve Smith

15. Justin Forsett

16. Dennis Pitta

17. Ladarius Webb

18. Eugene Monroe

19. Sam Koch

20. Courtney Upshaw

[PurpleCorsair]

If the list is called top players it should be by best by position. Most valuable is a whole other list IMO.

Wouldn't best by position just be the depth chart....?

Edited July 1, 2015 by PurpleCorsair

[beasy2487]

Jimmy's number 2. He's a better CB than Flacco is a QB.

Meh, Flacco stays on the field. Doesn't matter how talented you are if you can't stay healthy. Agree with you that Jimmy is better if health isn't a factor, but given Joe's durability (not for lack of hits taken) I think he's easily the second best on the team behind Yanda. I would only give Yanda the edge because of his ability to play RT. It's crazy that he can play above average at RT while also being the best Guard in the league.

That said, Jimmy is definitely a top 5 player on this team.

[Gordo52]

1. Joe

2. Yanda

3. Jimmy

4. Mosley

5. Suggs

6. K.O.

7. Hill

8. Doom

9. Daryl

10. Tucker

11. Williams

12. Smith Sr

13. Wagner

14. Jernigan

15. Pitta *if healthy and Pitta-like*

16. Monroe

17. Forsett

18. Upshaw

19. Webb

20. Koch

21. *Perriman* --- feeling pretty good about this pick now

[Stevin]

1. Yanda

2. Flacco

3. Suggs

4. Mosley

5. S.Smith

6. Hill

7. J.Smith

8. Doom

9. D.Smith

10. C.Gillmore

11. KO

12. K.Lewis

13. Forsett

14. B.Williams

15. Monroe

16. Jernigan

17. Wagner

18. Perriman

19. Juszczyk 

20. Tucker

[salamander]

It will be interesting to revisit this question after the season as well. So many new players with limited or no NFL experience. It's fun to speculate now but I would imagine we will be in for a few surprises by those who exceed and those who fall short of expectations, not to mention injuries. I am just very pleased with how things are shaping up for this year and hope a lot of our young players really make an impact to end up on everyone's top 20 list. If some of these young players can step right in and be successful in the NFL to supplement our vets, the Ravens could be very tough to beat this year.  

[Cillmatic]

Wouldn't best by position just be the depth chart....?

No, best by position when compared to the entire league.

[redrum52]

No, best by position when compared to the entire league.

Tickers a better kicker than Flacco is a qb. Does he rank higher than him?

[Gordo52]

Tucker is difficult to rank. I think we all agree he's the best kicker in the game. All depends on how much you value kickers

[January J]

Yanda

Flacco

SSS

Tucker

J.Smith

Suggs

Doom

Mosely

Forsett

Pitta

K.O

Jernigan

B.Williams

W.Hill

D.Smith

Perriman

C.Gilmore

K.Lewis

C.Upshaw

K.Aiken/S. Koch

Edited July 1, 2015 by January J

[rpolla22]

_Yanda

_{Jimmy S.}

_Flacco

_Suggs

_{Steve Sr.}

_Mosely

_Doom

_Tucker

_Wagner

_Forsett

_K.O.

_B.Williams

_{D. Smith}

_{Pitta ( if healthy )}

_Jernigan

_Hill

_Aiken

_Webb

_Koch

_{K. Lewis}

[January J]

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20548/will-joe-flacco-remain-atop-ravens-top-20-list-in-2015. Here was the top 20 list in 2014. Matt Elam over Cj Mosley!?

[FlackAttack]

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20548/will-joe-flacco-remain-atop-ravens-top-20-list-in-2015. Here was the top 20 list in 2014. Matt Elam over Cj Mosley!?

 

makes sense. cj was a rookie and everyone was expecting elam to have a huge year

[FlackAttack]

1. Flacco

2. Yanda

3. Mosley

4. SSS

5. Jimmy Smith

6. Doom

7 . Hill

8. Osemele

9 . Forsett

10. Suggs

11. Brandon Williams

12. Daryl Smith

13. Webb

14. Aiken

15. Kendrick Lewis

16. Gillmore

17. Jernigan

18. Monroe

19. Justin Tucker

20. B. Perriman

[52520Andrew]

http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/20548/will-joe-flacco-remain-atop-ravens-top-20-list-in-2015. Here was the top 20 list in 2014. Matt Elam over Cj Mosley!?

To be fair, Mosely hadn't played a regular season snap for us and there was optimism on Elam moving into more of a SS role

[January J]

makes sense. cj was a rookie and everyone was expecting elam to have a huge year

yeah for some reason I was under the impression that the list was done following the 2014 season, should have been obvious I just wasn't thoroughly paying attention . makes you think that all the optimism for Elam this year is b.s

[FlackAttack]

yeah for some reason I was under the impression that the list was done following the 2014 season, should have been obvious I just wasn't thoroughly paying attention . makes you think that all the optimism for Elam this year is b.s

 

yeah it really is a shame how much elam was a bust last season.

[1/28/01]

1. Flacco

2. Yanda

3. Mosley

4. SSS

5. Jimmy Smith

6. Doom

7 . Hill

8. Osemele

9 . Forsett

10. Suggs

11. Brandon Williams

12. Daryl Smith

13. Webb

14. Aiken

15. Kendrick Lewis

16. Gillmore

17. Jernigan

18. Monroe

19. Justin Tucker

20. B. Perriman

Aiken over Tucker. That's interesting.

[52liveforever]

yeah for some reason I was under the impression that the list was done following the 2014 season, should have been obvious I just wasn't thoroughly paying attention . makes you think that all the optimism for Elam this year is b.s

 

yeah really. I mean I hope elam turns out to be worth the draft pick, but he's looking like a miss. I find it funny how guys always get hyped up and then poof nothing comes of them. for example Doss, Demetrius Williams was constantly teased as looking really good during training camp, Tavares gooden, terrance cody, the list goes on. point is I don't get my hopes up until preseason which is why I left unprovens such as rookies off my list.

[FlackAttack]

Aiken over Tucker. That's interesting.

 

yup. Aiken is more talented than Tucker. dudes got a good physical frame and speed to be a legit number 2 if not number 1 WR this season. Plus, it takes more talent to run routes and catch a football from Flacco in coverage, than kick a football into uprights without being touched. thats what this list is about right? talent?

[FlackAttack]

yeah really. I mean I hope elam turns out to be worth the draft pick, but he's looking like a miss. I find it funny how guys always get hyped up and then poof nothing comes of them. for example Doss, Demetrius Williams was constantly teased as looking really good during training camp, Tavares gooden, terrance cody, the list goes on. point is I don't get my hopes up until preseason which is why I left unprovens such as rookies off my list.

 

exactly. thats why i need to remind people not to get over excited about players this time of year. you have absolutely no idea how they'll turn out until week 15, 16 and 17.