Why to be excited for Maxx Williams coming to Baltimore

[cushrinada1986]

We keep another weapon out of big bens hands. We have a TE that could take some eyes off pita and help him as well dominate the middle/seam of the field, allowing for Steve Smith and Perrimen to burn down field. I cant wait for kickoff!

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000481542/article/jeremiah-compares-minnesota-te-maxx-williams-to-todd-heap

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVd2SaGRvPo

Edited June 29, 2015 by cushrinada1986

[Cillmatic]

If I just hope he doesn't have a Crocket Gillmore type rookie season. He has the skill to be a splash player year 1. With him and X-factor Perriman we will have one of the most explosive offenses in the league. We'll need it for the Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs games.

[Dr. Kelley]

If I just hope he doesn't have a Crocket Gillmore type rookie season. He has the skill to be a splash player year 1. With him and X-factor Perriman we will have one of the most explosive offenses in the league. We'll need it for the Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs games.

So you're saying you don't want Williams to be successful? Because Gilmore did pretty good last season. Williams will be lucky if he starts a single game this season.

[CalvinSmoke]

If I just hope he doesn't have a Crocket Gillmore type rookie season. He has the skill to be a splash player year 1. With him and X-factor Perriman we will have one of the most explosive offenses in the league. We'll need it for the Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs games.

Gillette had a better rookie year than Dennis pitta... Tight ends take time

[FlackAttack]

If I just hope he doesn't have a Crocket Gillmore type rookie season. He has the skill to be a splash player year 1. With him and X-factor Perriman we will have one of the most explosive offenses in the league. We'll need it for the Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs games.

seahawks, bengals, and chiefs games? lol wut

[redrum52]

seahawks, bengals, and chiefs games? lol wut

Well probably need him for every game, but he might have specified those games because of the secondaries they have and th3 fact we'll need someone making tough catches over the middle.

[RavensFanMania]

So you're saying you don't want Williams to be successful? Because Gilmore did pretty good last season. Williams will be lucky if he starts a single game this season.

yeah, I'd be happy if he had a year like Gillmore.  TE's take time to adjust in the NFL.

[Cillmatic]

So you're saying you don't want Williams to be successful? Because Gilmore did pretty good last season. Williams will be lucky if he starts a single game this season.

So in your reality there's only to kinds of seasons, minimal recieving seasons(Gillmore) or terrible unsuccessful season...

[Cillmatic]

seahawks, bengals, and chiefs games? lol wut

Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs are teams in the NFL, they play football like the Ravens. Those are the hardest games on the schedule. Still confused?

[757RavensFan]

Probably should curb our excitement on Madd Maxx, TE's RARELY make a noise their rookie season.

[sflegend89]

I wouldn't be surprised Maxx he has a relatively quiet rookie season. He's still extremely young and needs some physical and mental maturing during this first year. Long term I think he will be an absolute stud but it's probably best we temper our expectations for his rookie season, especially with Crockett apparently raising his game tremendously as of late. Now I wouldn't be surprised if Maxx lights it up this year but I don't think it's fair to put those kind of expectations on him at his age.

 

Perriman on the other hand I think will have an instant impact and I do expect that out of him.

[January J]

Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs are teams in the NFL, they play football like the Ravens. Those are the hardest games on the schedule. Still confused?

I disagree. Also Crockett only had a minimal receiving year because he was behind Owen Daniels. Heck he was actually behind pitta too during the beginning of the year. And he still exceeded expectations. I think Maxx will be given more oppurtunities than Crockett had- so he very well may have a better year, and that would be great. But right now Crockett is the projected starter- and if pitta comes back too I definitely wouldn't expect Maxx to put up huge numbers.

[January J]

I think some people (nobody in particular) are expecting Maxx to jump in and be the starter week 1, and that's simply not gonna happen unless an injury occurs.

[Dr. Kelley]

So in your reality there's only to kinds of seasons, minimal recieving seasons(Gillmore) or terrible unsuccessful season...

What are you even talking about? Your post makes no sense. Gilmore had a great year last year for being a rookie backup behind a good pro bowl player on the depth chart.

[FlackAttack]

Seahawks, Bengals and Chiefs are teams in the NFL, they play football like the Ravens. Those are the hardest games on the schedule. Still confused?

 

wow. do you really believe the bengals and chiefs are the hardest games?

Edited June 30, 2015 by The Mom Gene
please try to keep it cool, guys.

[edreed2o]

What are you even talking about? Your post makes no sense. Gilmore had a great year last year for being a rookie backup behind a good pro bowl player on the depth chart.

His post makes perfect sense. Gilmore= minimal impact/stats and he wants Maxx to have a huge impact like a Todd Heap or Dennis Pitta. And you said Gilmore had a good season FOR being a rookie backup. He wants him to have a good year for being the starter. Do you understand now?

Edited June 30, 2015 by edreed2o

[JoeyFlex5]

the only TE's i can think of from recent memory that made a splash as a rookie is eifert and gronk, aside from that they all seem to be nearly nonexistent on the stat sheets. gillmore had a pretty superb rookie season by recent standards set by rookie TE's, and with gillmore being capable of filling all the needs of a decent TE, it takes pressure off of maxx and allows him to focus on what he does best and build confidence before he feels the need to start wading around in troubled waters by taking on blocking assignments too frequently. 

 

ive said this often, maxx isnt 6'6", he doesnt have 4.5 wheels, he doesnt have a "crutch" to lean on in terms of natural physical ability, he will need to win with precise routes and refined technique, he is the type of guy who appears to be able to pick that up with natural progression, but he doesnt have that right now, but what he does bring to the table is something that is very coveted in TE's, vice grips for hands and godlike ball skills, he can mix it up in the mid air with any db in the league and he can probably win, but he needs to learn the nuances of the position like sitting down in coverage and finding the creases and body positioning, once he masters the little things, sky is the limit. 

 

temper the expectations because he will be facing a tough learning curve being a smaller and slower TE relatively speaking.

[BmoreBird22]

the only TE's i can think of from recent memory that made a splash as a rookie is eifert and gronk, aside from that they all seem to be nearly nonexistent on the stat sheets. gillmore had a pretty superb rookie season by recent standards set by rookie TE's, and with gillmore being capable of filling all the needs of a decent TE, it takes pressure off of maxx and allows him to focus on what he does best and build confidence before he feels the need to start wading around in troubled waters by taking on blocking assignments too frequently. 

 

ive said this often, maxx isnt 6'6", he doesnt have 4.5 wheels, he doesnt have a "crutch" to lean on in terms of natural physical ability, he will need to win with precise routes and refined technique, he is the type of guy who appears to be able to pick that up with natural progression, but he doesnt have that right now, but what he does bring to the table is something that is very coveted in TE's, vice grips for hands and godlike ball skills, he can mix it up in the mid air with any db in the league and he can probably win, but he needs to learn the nuances of the position like sitting down in coverage and finding the creases and body positioning, once he masters the little things, sky is the limit. 

 

temper the expectations because he will be facing a tough learning curve being a smaller and slower TE relatively speaking.

He may not have incredible height (not that 6'4" is small) or 4.5 speed, but he is deceptively fast and can certainly run away from safeties and linebackers. He's also got amazing leaping ability. I think he's got plenty good athleticism and good size.

[JoeyFlex5]

He may not have incredible height (not that 6'4" is small) or 4.5 speed, but he is deceptively fast and can certainly run away from safeties and linebackers. He's also got amazing leaping ability. I think he's got plenty good athleticism and good size.

you said it right there though, "good" athleticism and size, not saying hes slow or small, but we see rookie TE's that light up the NCAA with 4.5 speed and 6'6" height with ridiculous wingspan and come into the NFL as high draft picks and do absolutely nothing, they have a crutch to lean on while picking up the nuances(you cant help bad hands tho, ahem eric ebron), im saying maxx doesnt have that. he may be deceptively fast but i dont see many scenarios where he pulls away from NFL DB's he just isnt as fast as those guys, hes got some moves though and he plays like a bull in a china shop, but he will be relying on constantly making spectacular catches in tight coverage until he can refine his game.

[stampedehero]

We keep another weapon out of big bens hands. We have a TE that could take some eyes off pita and help him as well dominate the middle/seam of the field, allowing for Steve Smith and Perrimen to burn down field. I cant wait for kickoff!

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000481542/article/jeremiah-compares-minnesota-te-maxx-williams-to-todd-heap

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVd2SaGRvPo

Whoa.... That was a mesmerizing vid.               Ok I'm a believer.            Wher do I sign up?   

[BmoreBird22]

you said it right there though, "good" athleticism and size, not saying hes slow or small, but we see rookie TE's that light up the NCAA with 4.5 speed and 6'6" height with ridiculous wingspan and come into the NFL as high draft picks and do absolutely nothing, they have a crutch to lean on while picking up the nuances(you cant help bad hands tho, ahem eric ebron), im saying maxx doesnt have that. he may be deceptively fast but i dont see many scenarios where he pulls away from NFL DB's he just isnt as fast as those guys, hes got some moves though and he plays like a bull in a china shop, but he will be relying on constantly making spectacular catches in tight coverage until he can refine his game.

But what about someone like Jordan Matthews who wasn't extremely fast or athletic, but had a very respectable rookie year. I mean, it was actually really good, but you know, when you're playing with Odell as another rookie receiver, you're gonna look just respectable. 

 

Anyway, I don't care if he's not fast or 7' tall because as you said before, he's got insane hands. He just catches everything thrown his way and he'll make any catch in traffic. It does not matter if he's covered because he's just going to go get it. 

 

I think his routes could use some work, but he's far from someone who can't contribute early.

[ravensnick]

But what about someone like Jordan Matthews who wasn't extremely fast or athletic, but had a very respectable rookie year. I mean, it was actually really good, but you know, when you're playing with Odell as another rookie receiver, you're gonna look just respectable. 

 

Anyway, I don't care if he's not fast or 7' tall because as you said before, he's got insane hands. He just catches everything thrown his way and he'll make any catch in traffic. It does not matter if he's covered because he's just going to go get it. 

 

I think his routes could use some work, but he's far from someone who can't contribute early.

Wouldn't say that. Matthews ran a 4.46 40 at the combine, which at 6'3", 215 lbs, is very respectable.

Edited July 1, 2015 by ravensnick

[BmoreBird22]

Wouldn't say that. Matthews ran a 4.46 40 at the combine, which at 6'3", 215 lbs, is very respectable.

But that's combine speed and I think that really surprised everyone. In the same sense, Maxx didn't time too well, but he certainly plays with some wheels

[JoeyFlex5]

But what about someone like Jordan Matthews who wasn't extremely fast or athletic, but had a very respectable rookie year. I mean, it was actually really good, but you know, when you're playing with Odell as another rookie receiver, you're gonna look just respectable. 

 

Anyway, I don't care if he's not fast or 7' tall because as you said before, he's got insane hands. He just catches everything thrown his way and he'll make any catch in traffic. It does not matter if he's covered because he's just going to go get it. 

 

I think his routes could use some work, but he's far from someone who can't contribute early.

never said he cant contribute lol im expecting a respectable rookie season from him. and i was a huge fan of matthews coming out and i wanted us to take him bad, he was my 2nd favorite wr in the draft after ODB, but he had a whole lot more than hands and ball skills, that dude plays like a 10 year nfl veteran, he is every bit as pro ready, refined and polished as amari cooper but with less athleticism, his route running was nothing short of elite before he even took a snap, as a matter of fact his hands in tight coverage were a bit of a concern coming out but he was so great at gaining enough separation that teams werent worried about it. 

 

maxx williams is nowhere near that status, he shows potential to be an elite route runner, he has stiff hips and he rounds out his routes but he still shows a good grasp of getting open, the slight lack of burst and the rounding out of his routes will hinder his ability to contribute consistently, he will still make his plays though simply because of his incredible hands and ball skills, i just think year 2 or 3 is when he becomes that elite, consistent chain mover, his game needs a bit of refinement, for now he appears to be a threat to make a spectacular catch at any time, but i think he will disappear at times and just wont be very consistent. i think that day will come for sure, but as a rookie thats just how im expecting him to perform.

[JoeyFlex5]

just to clarify, im not downing maxx at all, my short list for FIRST ROUND guys i was hoping for at 26th was:

1)malcom brown

2)bud dupree

3)phillip dorsett

4)maxx williams

5)DGB

i was a huge fan of williams from day one and im ecstatic we got him. i just know the truth about rookie TE's and we really need to keep expectations low

[Edgar]

Maxx lined up all over the place at Minnesota. As an in line blocker, at full back, in the slot, as an h-back and out wide. He is a smart(albeit young) football player. Not the strongest as an in line blocker(yet) but is very assignment sound and when he gets hands on his guy he either moves them or holds them up.

I think he makes an impact this year as a pass catcher putting up stats similar to his final year in college.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

If Pitta has another mis-hap I hope not but if he does the Ravens and Oz already found his replacement.

[FastEddie]

I can see both sides, espesically since we haven't heard and stellar reports about him thus far. Like most have said he is so young, I think it might take a year for the game to slow down and learn the play book. Won't be a issue considering we were waiting to see what Pitta is doing anyway.

 

Either way doesn't matter much because Maxx is going to be a beast once he starts. He know's how to get open and can own in the redzone...Flacco is going to love this guy

[Ravensfan23]

I think it's impossible to say what type of season or impact Williams will have in this offense, because nobody really knows what Trestman's offense will look like. Yes it's the same WCO offense, but Trestman will run it different from Kubes. Will he run a lot of 2TE sets? Will he look to get his top 4 WRs involved in the offense, what about Juice, how much will he feature the backs in the passing game and more importantly will Maxx Williams be ready to handle whatever role Trestman has in store for him? There is also the whole Pitta thing. Nobody knows if he'll be ready or how long he'll hold up if he is. 

[izvoodoo]

But what about someone like Jordan Matthews who wasn't extremely fast or athletic, but had a very respectable rookie year. I mean, it was actually really good, but you know, when you're playing with Odell as another rookie receiver, you're gonna look just respectable. 

 

Anyway, I don't care if he's not fast or 7' tall because as you said before, he's got insane hands. He just catches everything thrown his way and he'll make any catch in traffic. It does not matter if he's covered because he's just going to go get it. 

 

I think his routes could use some work, but he's far from someone who can't contribute early.

I mean Jordan Matthews was 6'3 and ran a 4.46.  Matthews is definitely very athletic.