Michael Oher, "Blindside hurting my career."

[kassaiscool]

Maybe his first two years, but you can't deny his improvement in that area.

 

I would also like to know how much sacks and pressures he was giving up. He had penalties but was also regressing as a pass blocker from his rookie year.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

He means that the movie added a lot more pressure and expectations then others received.

 

He was a high profile player before he took 1 snap in the NFL.

 

lets have a look.

2010

Oher had 8 heap was closest 2nd with 4.

 

2011

Oher had 5 false starts with mckinnie having 4 birk having 3 yanda having 2

 

2012

Oher had 4 false starts and got alot of flak for it which was hilarious cause nobody was on Yanda who had 3 lol.

Heck Osemele had 6 that season yet everyone was bashing Oher.

 

Heck 2013 Yanda had 5 false starts and Oher only 3 but again Oher is labeld mister false starts....

 

2014 Yanda and daniels lead the team with 4 each.

 

There is a clear downward trend in him getting false starts called with yanda showing an increase but guess who gets labeld mister false start.....

Ya I can see your point. The difference between Yanda and Oher is Yanda protects the QB better.....

[The Raven]

As if the penalties were bad enough, Oher was just straight up incompetent at times. There were games he looked legitimately talentless.

[Tru11]

I mean if your a Ravens fan you know he had a lot of penalties point blank period. Doesn't really matter if they were false starts holding or whatever he was a penalty machine. On top of that steadily declined from his rookie year. To hear him complain about a movie not getting him on a team is actually sad. He was a good guy for the Ravens, but don't make that type of excuse.

 

i know he had penalties.

i never denied that.

 

im just pointing out that its ridiculous that fans like you keep bringing up the false stats since he clearly cleaned up his act after his rookie season.

im also pointing out that he had softening circumstances as well since he spend most of his career with the ravens switching between RT and LT which is far from an easy thing to do.

 

Also is it really that hard to believe that the movie added higher expectations and pressure to him?

He became a well known player before he took 1 snap in the NFL so i doubt its that far fetched him being under a microscope more then others.

 

i thought it was common knowledge that the more popular/well known a person is the more that person will be under a microscope.

 

 

 

Ya I can see your point. The difference between Yanda and Oher is Yanda protects the QB better.....

 

and that makes it okay to get more false starts?

[Fred Sanford]

He's said before that he was bothered by the fact that they showed him as a novice to football, when he wasn't.

 

That's not why people criticize you, Michael, they're not looking at the kid in the movie in the beginning, who didn't know how to play football, and saying "see, he can't play!"  They're looking at you get beat by James Harrison and losing games, not the movie.  If you watch the 2012 playoff run, Robert Mathis dominated him in Round 1, Von Miller in Round 2 (even in the run game), and Ahmad Brooks and even Ray MacDonald in the Super Bowl.  It just so happened that the rest of the line played well enough, and Joe was on fire enough, for nobody to notice.  He was a turnstile for most of his career here, the movie has nothing to do with it.

[The Raven]

Someone tell Mike that NFL coaches don't care about the movie--they care about the tape. And Oher's tape is the film that's ruining his career.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

i know he had penalties.

i never denied that.

 

im just pointing out that its ridiculous that fans like you keep bringing up the false stats since he clearly cleaned up his act after his rookie season.

im also pointing out that he had softening circumstances as well since he spend most of his career with the ravens switching between RT and LT which is far from an easy thing to do.

 

Also is it really that hard to believe that the movie added higher expectations and pressure to him?

He became a well known player before he took 1 snap in the NFL so i doubt its that far fetched him being under a microscope more then others.

 

i thought it was common knowledge that the more popular/well known a person is the more that person will be under a microscope.

 

 

 

 

and that makes it okay to get more false starts?

If Yanda is protecting Joe thats what he is paid to do and he is 1 of the top protecters in the NFL and believe me Yanda will be paid  a nice pay check. No its not ok to get false starts but Yanda makes up for it with his over-all play he is a pro-bowl caliber player and Oher is a average player who gets a lot of false starts and allows the QB to be sacked and pressured sometimes not even getting a hand on the defender. No comparison between Yanda and Oher. Even the false start stats argument hold little to no meaning when you look at their over all career perfomances. Who would you rather have on the o-line protecting Joe Yanda or Oher?

[Tru11]

If Yanda is protecting Joe thats what he is paid to do and he is 1 of the top protecters in the NFL and believe me Yanda will be paid  a nice pay check. No its not ok to get false starts but Yanda makes up for it with his over-all play he is a pro-bowl caliber player and Oher is a average player who gets a lot of false starts and allows the QB to be sacked and pressured sometimes not even getting a hand on the defender. No comparison between Yanda and Oher. Even the false start stats argument hold little to no meaning when you look at their over all career perfomances. Who would you rather have on the o-line protecting Joe Yanda or Oher?

 

So basicially because yanda is great and gets paid alot fans dont care he gets false start penalties?

 

Cause its funny that you mention Oher gets alot of false start penalties while in fact in 2014 Yanda had the most, in 2013 Yanda had the most and in 2012 Osemele had the most and Oher had only 1 more then Yanda lol.

 

if we go by the last 3 seasons its actually Yanda who gets alot of false start pens...

[Tenacious Faulker]

So basicially because yanda is great and gets paid alot fans dont care he gets false start penalties?

 

Cause its funny that you mention Oher gets alot of false start penalties while in fact in 2014 Yanda had the most, in 2013 Yanda had the most and in 2012 Osemele had the most and Oher had only 1 more then Yanda lol.

 

if we go by the last 3 seasons its actually Yanda who gets alot of false start pens...

Yanda and K.O. are different types of players than Mike.  They constantly work on their craft tot to get better.  The NFL wasn;t a final destination for them - just a beginning where they can learn to improve their technique even further.  Oher didn;t do that.  IMO he swallowed his own kool-aide and felt like he didn;t have to work hard to get better at the NFL level.  He saw it as a destination and rest on his laurels after his rookie year and never learned to advance his game in order to keep up..  That's desire.  He doesn't have it    

[airconteka1]

Yanda also wasn't the cause of a Sandra Bullock movie getting made

[stampedehero]

False starts, holding penalties.  Too many and its mortal sin to an O man. Next step....Goodbye. The movie is no longer a viable excuse. .   

[Tru11]

Yanda and K.O. are different types of players than Mike.  They constantly work on their craft tot to get better.  The NFL wasn;t a final destination for them - just a beginning where they can learn to improve their technique even further.  Oher didn;t do that.  IMO he swallowed his own kool-aide and felt like he didn;t have to work hard to get better at the NFL level.  He saw it as a destination and rest on his laurels after his rookie year and never learned to advance his game in order to keep up..  That's desire.  He doesn't have it    

 

Again i never question this lol.

 

im asking why people keep saying oher gets alot of false start penalties while the stats and thus facts say other wise.

 

The stats i posted say oher is getting less of those penalties  to the point that in his last and although worst season he was even getting them less then Yanda.

 

Heck im wondering why nobody is talking about Yanda getting these penalties after he lead the team the past 2 seasons with them.

 

So far all im getting is that because Yanda is so good fans let it slide and have no problem about him getting those penalties no matter how they could affect the offense  and  because Oher was avg they gonna keep bringing up how many he had in his rookie season lol

 

TBH people should just let the false start stuff go cause its certainly 1 area where Oher actually worked to clean up his act and over the course of his career it paid off with us.

[beasy2487]

yet another ugly offseason thread. yikes.

[FastEddie]

I read this story and could understand where Oher is coming from, but it's not something I feel you should express in the limelight. The way he puts it makes it sound like another Jonathan Martin case which makes him sound soft.

 

I watched the blindside, and know what the man has gone through, but he needs step up and prove the naysayers wrong.

[JoeyFlex5]

Yanda also wasn't the cause of a Sandra Bullock movie getting made

sandra bullock portraying a southern woman with sass and married to a man played by tim mcgraw... 

 

thanks alot "big mike"...

[JoeyFlex5]

I read this story and could understand where Oher is coming from, but it's not something I feel you should express in the limelight. The way he puts it makes it sound like another Jonathan Martin case which makes him sound soft.

 

I watched the blindside, and know what the man has gone through, but he needs step up and prove the naysayers wrong.

your avatar is god-tier

[FastEddie]

your avatar is god-tier

 

Haha thanks man. I needed to watch that youtube clip at work the other day just to relate

[TXRavensFan]

Yanda and K.O. are different types of players than Mike.  They constantly work on their craft tot to get better.  The NFL wasn;t a final destination for them - just a beginning where they can learn to improve their technique even further.  Oher didn;t do that.  IMO he swallowed his own kool-aide and felt like he didn;t have to work hard to get better at the NFL level.  He saw it as a destination and rest on his laurels after his rookie year and never learned to advance his game in order to keep up..  That's desire.  He doesn't have it    

 

No offense, but your post is a perfect example of what Oher was talking about:

 

“The movie showed me not doing something so well that got me here, something I’ve always understood,” Oher said. "Everything else is good, but them showing me not knowing how to play football, that’s what upsets me the most.”

 

Part of the reason why it touches a nerve with Oher is that in reality he’s a student of the game and an extremely hard worker. It’s a cliché that a hard-working player is the first one in the building and last to leave. But Birk, another weight-room junkie, said it’s true with Oher.

 

“Once in a while I’ll beat him into the office and I’ll be like, ‘Hey Mike, you’re slipping man. I got ya today,’” Birk said with a laugh. “It really bugs him. Mike busts his tail and that’s why he’s so successful. It’s easy to root for a guy like that.”

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/The-Real-Michael-Oher/f766f1ad-4104-479d-a379-c3eeb82d9e17

[ravensnick]

Again i never question this lol.

 

im asking why people keep saying oher gets alot of false start penalties while the stats and thus facts say other wise.

 

The stats i posted say oher is getting less of those penalties  to the point that in his last and although worst season he was even getting them less then Yanda.

 

Heck im wondering why nobody is talking about Yanda getting these penalties after he lead the team the past 2 seasons with them.

 

So far all im getting is that because Yanda is so good fans let it slide and have no problem about him getting those penalties no matter how they could affect the offense  and  because Oher was avg they gonna keep bringing up how many he had in his rookie season lol

 

TBH people should just let the false start stuff go cause its certainly 1 area where Oher actually worked to clean up his act and over the course of his career it paid off with us.

Wasn't just false start penalty. Almost seemed that Oher would get some type of flag almost every game.

 

Edit: Throughout his career at Baltimore, Oher obtained 45 penalties, for an average of 9 per year. That's pretty bad. 

 

Yanda has obtained 34 penalties during his time here for an average of 4.25 per year. 

Edited June 22, 2015 by ravensnick

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

I used to be a Micheal Oher defender but after seeing Wagner play last year I think some of his haters have a point.I never realised just how big of a weak spot he was on the line until I saw Ricky come in and bring that right side to life.

[Inqui]

Wasn't just false start penalty. Almost seemed that Oher would get some type of flag almost every game.

 

Edit: Throughout his career at Baltimore, Oher obtained 45 penalties, for an average of 9 per year. That's pretty bad. 

 

Yanda has obtained 34 penalties during his time here for an average of 4.25 per year. 

The problem is that averages take his whole career into account, where it isn't really fair on the guy to ignore his improvements.

[JO_75]

Someone tell Mike that NFL coaches don't care about the movie--they care about the tape. And Oher's tape is the film that's ruining his career.

 

Yep, that's the only thing that matters. Also getting cut by the second worst team in the league doesn't make you look like a good player either.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

So basicially because yanda is great and gets paid alot fans dont care he gets false start penalties?

 

Cause its funny that you mention Oher gets alot of false start penalties while in fact in 2014 Yanda had the most, in 2013 Yanda had the most and in 2012 Osemele had the most and Oher had only 1 more then Yanda lol.

 

if we go by the last 3 seasons its actually Yanda who gets alot of false start pens...

Tru11 I understand what your saying. However people coaches and fans alike are more forgiving when a guy has a great overall body of work. Yanda has been a o-line king stud for years and Oher was average at best and sometimes less than average thus the false starts were magnafied. My question is Who would you rather have wearing purple and black Yanda or Oher? It's the same as Gradkowski and Zuttah at center were you happier with Gradkowski or Zuttah?

Edited June 22, 2015 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[Inqui]

My question is Who would you rather have wearing purple and black Yanda or Oher?

That's not what he's saying either. He's saying that during Oher's career with us, his number of penalties started to drop - to the point that they weren't far off Yanda's own number. But while Oher repeatedly got bashed for it, people were happy to overlook that in Yanda. It's not even saying that Yanda is a bad player or that Oher is some kind of OL god, but that after the first couple of years the main problem people had with Oher (in this case the penalties) was kinda overblown.

 

Just like with Torrey.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

That's not what he's saying either. He's saying that during Oher's career with us, his number of penalties started to drop - to the point that they weren't far off Yanda's own number. But while Oher repeatedly got bashed for it, people were happy to overlook that in Yanda. It's not even saying that Yanda is a bad player or that Oher is some kind of OL god, but that after the first couple of years the main problem people had with Oher (in this case the penalties) was kinda overblown.

 

Just like with Torrey.

Ya I understand that but like I told him is Yanda has always played a good game as Oher was very average at best and fans and coaches alike seem to be more forgiving when a great player messes up but an average player things get magnified. And no I never thought he was saying Oher was better than Yanda.

[ravensnick]

The problem is that averages take his whole career into account, where it isn't really fair on the guy to ignore his improvements.

He had 10 penalty in 2012, well into his career.

[TXRavensFan]

He had 10 penalty in 2012, well into his career.

 

According to the NFL penalty tracker, in his last 3 years, he had 11, 9, and 6 total penalties.

[ravensdfan]

I might be remebering this all wrong but I thought when he was first moved to RT, he did pretty well there. Well enough that many were begging that he not be moved back to LT when he was moved again. Then he was moved to RT yet again, and just never seemed to recover from being moved back and forth.

[ravensdan]

I might be remebering this all wrong but I thought when he was first moved to RT, he did pretty well there. Well enough that many were begging that he not be moved back to LT when he was moved again. Then he was moved to RT yet again, and just never seemed to recover from being moved back and forth.

I always thought that was a sorry excuse. Plenty of guys move around the o line. The fact that he regressed every year of his career says to me he simply has a low football IQ.

[ravensdfan]

I always thought that was a sorry excuse. Plenty of guys move around the o line. The fact that he regressed every year of his career says to me he simply has a low football IQ.

I didn't mean it as an excuse for his play. Just that I thought he did well at RT at first, then was moved, then when moved back again was never the same.