[News] 6/18: News And Notes: Ravens Conclude Successful Minicamp

[January J]

yeah maxx hasnt really been talked about a whole lot, definitely not a good sign that he tweaked something. atleast hes got 6 weeks to recover.in my opinion i think crockett and even boyle seemed to look like they were in wayyyy better shape than he was.  Waller has also seemed to take a step back.. we have so much potential its hard to see how we can make it work to keep him, but i just cant see us giving up on our 6th rounder, or even putting him on the practice squad for somebody to snatch up.

SSS, Perriman,Aiken,Brown,Butler,Waller  is the way im seeing it right now. however this is all very premature, got a lonnnng way to go till september.

[Halshayeji]

What pass are you talking about? I hope you not talking about Joe to Torrey because that was Torrey's fault.

I've defended joe Flacco to the other end of the planet. And I literally mean that

Il continue to defend him because I do believe that he's perfect for our team.

But I think it's dillusional to throw all the blame on Torrey when it was clearly joes fault on that particular play.

I even doubted myselfe and watched it again a few times.

1- it was second and 5 with about 1:40 on the clock. Why go deep? Even if it was a completion then Brady would get the ball back.

2- the pats rushed 4 guys and 2 of them were on their back when joe released the ball. Why rush it?

3- the pats doubled Torrey and others were single covered? Why force it?

4- joe was not pressured at all but threw it off his back foot and floated it. Why?

5- Torrey actually had his man beat but joe placed the ball a few yards too deep and a few yards inside of the sideline.

6- Torrey actually did challenge the safety but the ball was just thrown in his lap.

Neg me all you need but that pass was on Joe not Torrey. Blame the refs, cheap patriot formations, deflated footballs, decemited secondary. Whatever you want but don't throw it all on Torrey just because he's not here.

[balfan23]

" Rookie tight end Maxx Williams did not finish practice after he “tweaked something,” Harbaugh said, but the injury does not appear serious." 

 

Every time Harbs says "tweaked" and it doesn't appear to be serious, honestly that unsettles me a little, knowing Harbs injury talk by now.  I wish Harbs would have been a little more specific. Just tweaked "something" kinda leaves ya hanging out there on a limb, (no pun intended).   And, yes I am a worrier, it is in my female DNA, lol  . 

Oh, you don't have to have female DNA to be a worrier. Many a man worries himself to an early grave - although it may have more to do with smoking and drinking done to drown those worries 

 

Definitely can't trust Harbaugh to be forth-coming on any injuries. 

[TXRavensFan]

I've defended joe Flacco to the other end of the planet. And I literally mean that

Il continue to defend him because I do believe that he's perfect for our team.

But I think it's dillusional to throw all the blame on Torrey when it was clearly joes fault on that particular play.

I even doubted myselfe and watched it again a few times.

1- it was second and 5 with about 1:40 on the clock. Why go deep? Even if it was a completion then Brady would get the ball back.

2- the pats rushed 4 guys and 2 of them were on their back when joe released the ball. Why rush it?

3- the pats doubled Torrey and others were single covered? Why force it?

4- joe was not pressured at all but threw it off his back foot and floated it. Why?

5- Torrey actually had his man beat but joe placed the ball a few yards too deep and a few yards inside of the sideline.

6- Torrey actually did challenge the safety but the ball was just thrown in his lap.

Neg me all you need but that pass was on Joe not Torrey. Blame the refs, cheap patriot formations, deflated footballs, decemited secondary. Whatever you want but don't throw it all on Torrey just because he's not here.

 

I've watched that play over and over as well, and come to the opposite conclusion.

 

1. I think this is the most arguable point. I have also wondered why they went for it all (off course we don't know the play call) with so much time on the clock. However, the general rule of thumb is that you go for the score when you get it. Let's also be realistic, if Flacco had jogged up the left side for the first down, there's no guarantee that they get the TD on a subsequent play.

 

2. Hurst pancakes his guy while Flacco has started his throwing motion, so he had already made the determination that Torrey's window was open and let it fly. I haven't seen where the play was rushed.

 

3. Torrey was open at the time the pass was thrown - he beat the CB, and the window was open in front of the safety.

 

4. At the time of the release, Hurst had gotten driven back to the spot where Flacco would need to plant - he couldn't take a full step. The ball may have floaed a little bit, but it was a strong throw typically of a Flacco bomb - it wasn't a bad ball.

 

5. The throw wasn't perfect, but it wasn't bad either. Torrey was watching it the whole way (until the last 10-20 feet of the ball's fight) and should have been tracking it to put him in position to make the catch.

 

6. Torrey took his eyes off the ball, slowed down and looked at the safety, then threw a little shoulder - he didn't make a play on the ball at all. If he kept his eyes on the ball without slowing down, then went up to make a play, it would have been a TD, PI, or incomplete. Torrey had plenty position on the DB to prevent that interception.

Edited June 20, 2015 by TXRavensFan

[January J]

I've defended joe Flacco to the other end of the planet. And I literally mean that

Il continue to defend him because I do believe that he's perfect for our team.

But I think it's dillusional to throw all the blame on Torrey when it was clearly joes fault on that particular play.

I even doubted myselfe and watched it again a few times.

1- it was second and 5 with about 1:40 on the clock. Why go deep? Even if it was a completion then Brady would get the ball back.

2- the pats rushed 4 guys and 2 of them were on their back when joe released the ball. Why rush it?

3- the pats doubled Torrey and others were single covered? Why force it?

4- joe was not pressured at all but threw it off his back foot and floated it. Why?

5- Torrey actually had his man beat but joe placed the ball a few yards too deep and a few yards inside of the sideline.

6- Torrey actually did challenge the safety but the ball was just thrown in his lap.

Neg me all you need but that pass was on Joe not Torrey. Blame the refs, cheap patriot formations, deflated footballs, decemited secondary. Whatever you want but don't throw it all on Torrey just because he's not here.

I felt the exact same way before, until somebody on here posted a video of the play in slow motion and actually had a pointer that showed where the ball was located and where Torrey was positioned. (It's really hard to see the ball even in slow motion without it being highlighted) Torrey very clearly takes his eyes off the ball as if he heard footsteps and anticipated he was about to take a big hit. That's why he squared up like he did. Had he kept running and jumped above the safety, he could have easily pulled it in or Atleast knocked it away. I can almost guarentee that perriman comes away with that catch- however that's neither here nor there. The decision to throw it in the first place is the biggest question. It's easy to say in hindsight, esp seeing the entire left side of the feild wide open where flacco could have jogged for 20 yards, but there was just too much time on the clock. I would have preferred running the ball with Forsett or throwing to one of the tight ends over the middle, but you also have to take what's given. It's tough bc Brady would have had plenty of time to work with, but we also might not have had another shot at the endzone, and that very well could have been a td had Torrey been a little more aggressive. I hate for him to have gone out like that bc I love the guy- and I imagine he has thought about it quite a bit as well. Edited June 20, 2015 by January J

[Purple&Black]

 I can almost guarentee that perriman comes away with that catch

 

That's bold to say considering he's never caught a single NFL pass

[sami]

Hope Williams is ok. ... Perriman and Waller Twin Towers.. Thats the dynamic duo WRs cant wait...

Why Perriman and Waller as Twin Towers? Perriman is only 6'2". If you want some Twin Towers put Marlon Brown and Waller out there. Or Crockett Gilmore and Waller. now THATS some Twin Towers

[Cillmatic]

Why Perriman and Waller as Twin Towers? Perriman is only 6'2". If you want some Twin Towers put Marlon Brown and Waller out there. Or Crockett Gilmore and Waller. now THATS some Twin Towers

Why are we giving nicknames to someone who might not make the roster?

[January J]

That's bold to say considering he's never caught a single NFL pass

I say that bc of his speed, he would have gotten to the ball before the safety did and just went up and snatched it. he just seems a lot more aggressive and that play reminded me of some of his catches in college. It is bold- I'm a bold kind of guy. Torrey obviously slowed up and took his eyes off the ball. But woulda coulda shoulda none if it matters, It's all about 2015 now. Edited June 21, 2015 by January J

[Mystigo_Dragon]

Timmy Jernigan, 2017 DPOY 

Edited June 23, 2015 by Mystigo_Dragon