[News] Late For Work 6/17: Terrell Suggs Softening His Stance On Tom Brady?

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[ryananth]

Who is Elliot Harrison? Has anyone ever heard of him?

[Space11jams]

Camp has to relax on that Lebron statement. That's disrespectful to MJ, Bird, Magic, Bull Russell, Kareem, Hakeem, Kobe.....guys whose level of play is far out of this world compared to Lebron. He mad be physically gifted but as far as talent, the guys I mentioned will school him in their prime...big time.

However, I do hope we can work out a deal where we keep both KO and Yanda. I hope Yanda takes a deal to where its reasonable and he can retire a Raven. If it doesn't happen, I understand. I'm glad we draft/sign well.

[MichaelJ34]

So Elliot Harrison sees us as crunch time casualties in the playoffs? Well seems to me he forgets that in the playoffs that Joe Flacco is the Best QB in football and we are always in tight contests and still manage to get the job done year after year.

I guess this is another hater looking for headlines cuz now we are finally getting national respect.

[Purple&BlackHeart]

Calm down Campanaro I think John Harbaugh and the trainers have been working you out a little too hard. Lebrons not even top 10 let alone the best, maybe top 15... maybe.

[MichaelJ34]

Yeah Camp needs to go watch old school NBA games and watch Malone Hakeem Magic Bird Russell these guys played when you were actually banging bodies down low in the paint. No you cant even breathe on LBJ without getting a foul called ... JOKE also Best athlete? really? take that crap and put it on Ebay cuz i aint buying it

[Purpleghost23]

We need to get sizz one more ring and one triple sss and doom, this is the year baby

[rmcjacket23]

So Elliot Harrison sees us as crunch time casualties in the playoffs? Well seems to me he forgets that in the playoffs that Joe Flacco is the Best QB in football and we are always in tight contests and still manage to get the job done year after year. I guess this is another hater looking for headlines cuz now we are finally getting national respect.

Think he certainly brings up some valid points though.

 

We're likely going to be young and/or inexperienced at the WR position. No matter how long Brown and Aiken have been in the league, the "experience" of actually starting and playing in big time games AND being major contributors is very, very, very small. Perriman and a guy like Maxx Williams have zero experience in that area.

 

Flacco can only play QB. Once the ball leaves his hands, there's pretty much nothing he can do. He can lead the team, throw dimes all of the field, but if the other guys around him don't do their job, its largely irrelevant.

 

Joe's never had a WR core this inexperienced. Some would say its potentially his most talented, and that very well may end up being true. But they are far and away the least experienced group he's ever had, and less experienced players sometimes struggle in big games. They struggle with drops, they struggle with routes, they struggle the mental aspect of the game. Frankly, there's not much Joe can do to help them with that.

 

There were times where we said "we will always make the playoffs with Flacco and John". And then... we didn't. There was a time where we felt invincible in home games. And then, we weren't. Saying something will continue to happen because in the past its happened isn't a very valid argument, particularly when there's significant change.

[Ravens07]

In Joe's last 10 playoff games he has 24 TDs and just 4 ints. His level of play in the playoffs over the last several years has been unmatched.

Edited June 17, 2015 by Ravens07

[cobrajet]

I think that was probably a mature decision by Suggs to "leave it alone." IMHO, I think it is best to just focus on being the best we can be at this point in time.

[MichaelJ34]

I think that was probably a mature decision by Suggs to "leave it alone." IMHO, I think it is best to just focus on being the best we can be at this point in time.

I agree i think we need to stay on the higher road and get our job done and not worry about everyone else. Lets go out put the work in and win another superbowl

[fusuymada]

Suggs is as soft on Brady as he is around his mid-section. When the Ravens asked him to take a pay cut to stay, take another to get under the salary cap, they had to realize that the effort Suggs put forward is equal to the amount of money he is getting paid. Personally, the sooner they get Upshaw and Za'Darius Smith up to speed with Kapron Lewis-Moore, Brent Urban and the rest, the better the Ravens will be. Suggs came in basically saying he was in year 13, he wasn't putting anymore effort in than he had to and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't end up "injured", missed a number of games and then retires. Football is clearly no longer a priority for him.

[SoCalRaven]

Camp, look at Lebron's numbers a little closer. He put them up, but he struggles with making his team better. In my opinion, the greats had that ability. Also, he took so many shots during the finals that he missed. If he was more efficient, he might have been able to get more production from teammates. Basketball is a team game and the greatest players know it.

Also, I'm not ready to freak out over our guard situation just yet. We have some young talent, albeit not at the level of KO and Yanda, but guys who will be serviceable. We also have the draft. While the depth at guard doesn't look amazing at this point, I like the way we have picked up some solid guys recently.

We have one of the best o-lines in the NFL right now. It would be foolish to think the Ravens can maintain all that talent indefinitely in this day and age in the league.

[budman]

So Elliot Harrison sees us as crunch time casualties in the playoffs? Well seems to me he forgets that in the playoffs that Joe Flacco is the Best QB in football and we are always in tight contests and still manage to get the job done year after year. I guess this is another hater looking for headlines cuz now we are finally getting national respect.

No need for everyone to debate what Elliot Harrison is saying. Basically all he is doing is predicting, or even guessing. It means just as much as all the Mock Drafts-absolutely nothing. It is usually best to wait until the season is playing out then people can say we are this or we are that. Until then we just practice to get better each day.

 

 

GO RAVENS!

[MissRay27]

Don't give a flying leap about basketball, there's no team in Bmore. Is is training camp yet?

[rmcjacket23]

Camp, look at Lebron's numbers a little closer. He put them up, but he struggles with making his team better. In my opinion, the greats had that ability. Also, he took so many shots during the finals that he missed. If he was more efficient, he might have been able to get more production from teammates. Basketball is a team game and the greatest players know it. Also, I'm not ready to freak out over our guard situation just yet. We have some young talent, albeit not at the level of KO and Yanda, but guys who will be serviceable. We also have the draft. While the depth at guard doesn't look amazing at this point, I like the way we have picked up some solid guys recently. We have one of the best o-lines in the NFL right now. It would be foolish to think the Ravens can maintain all that talent indefinitely in this day and age in the league.

LOL, you are literally the very first person I've ever heard in my entire life that said LeBron doesn't make his teammates and his team better. In fact, the overwhelming majority of people bash LeBron based on the fact that he plays the "distributor" role TOO MUCH, and that he doesn't put his team on his back from the scoring department often enough.

 

The best statstic I've heard regarding LeBron from these finals (disregarding the fact that he led both teams in points, rebounds and assists):

 

When LeBron wasn't on the floor, JR Smith, Delavedova, James Jones, and Shumpert took 21 shots. They made precisely ZERO of them.

[Ravens07]

Camp, look at Lebron's numbers a little closer. He put them up, but he struggles with making his team better. In my opinion, the greats had that ability. Also, he took so many shots during the finals that he missed. If he was more efficient, he might have been able to get more production from teammates. Basketball is a team game and the greatest players know it. Also, I'm not ready to freak out over our guard situation just yet. We have some young talent, albeit not at the level of KO and Yanda, but guys who will be serviceable. We also have the draft. While the depth at guard doesn't look amazing at this point, I like the way we have picked up some solid guys recently. We have one of the best o-lines in the NFL right now. It would be foolish to think the Ravens can maintain all that talent indefinitely in this day and age in the league.

 

He literally had more assists than the rest of his team combined.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Way to go CAVS,considering all the injuries! Can't stop the "INEVITABLE" We'll get'em next year! Go Indians,O's,CAVS and Ravens!!!

[ratedr]

Camp is right on LeBron. LeBron haters refuse to recognize that Bron was literally playing with a rec league team. He basically had a team full of Gino Gradkowskis. That they even won two against what was apparently an overrated Warriors team was a miracle.

[steelcityraven]

I like our roster from top to bottom. The Sqeelers have a very dynamic and potentially a very prolific offense but their defense has more question marks then the riddler. Who is playing CB for them? How about Safety? Their entire defensive backfield is sketchy at best and a single injury there could be devastating to their season. They have LB's that are highly drafted but also highly unaccomplished. The have a DL with talent on the outside and weak in the middle. They have no depth on that DL or anywhere in the front 7. WHile I think their offense is very good... there defense is in the bottom 10 in the league. How could any reputable sports writer suggest that they have more talent then us as a team???? that is a joke.

[RavensBaltimore]

Joe's never had a WR core this inexperienced. Some would say its potentially his most talented, and that very well may end up being true. But they are far and away the least experienced group he's ever had, and less experienced players sometimes struggle in big games. They struggle with drops, they struggle with routes, they struggle the mental aspect of the game. Frankly, there's not much Joe can do to help them with that.

 

There were times where we said "we will always make the playoffs with Flacco and John". And then... we didn't. There was a time where we felt invincible in home games. And then, we weren't. Saying something will continue to happen because in the past its happened isn't a very valid argument, particularly when there's significant change.

In 2011, Joe had a rookie starting WR and a rookie starting TE, and we were one dropped pass away from the SB. It was an experienced WR, not a rookie, who dropped that pass.

 

Past performances are the only basis we have to predict future performances. I don't think many people literally thought we would "always make the playoffs" or we were "invincible at home", but people who predicted something in that ballpark have still been pretty close. Predictions aren't always going to be right on, but based on what we have done in the recent past, our chances of making the playoffs and winning any given home game are very good. Yes, we have made some significant changes, but those changes should make us better, not worse, and we've proven that we can handle significant coaching and roster turnover. Picking us as a "second tier" SB contender is predicting that we'll probably make the playoffs, and by then, I highly doubt that our receivers won't know what to do pre snap. We may see some growing pains early on, but if we get to the postseason, our rookies will have had 8 months to learn the offense. At that point, I think talent would trump experience, and we still do have a starting WR with plenty of big game experience.

[RavensBaltimore]

Camp is right on LeBron. LeBron haters refuse to recognize that Bron was literally playing with a rec league team. He basically had a team full of Gino Gradkowskis. That they even won two against what was apparently an overrated Warriors team was a miracle.

He didn't have much of a chance with the injuries this year, but he played with 2 other all stars in Miami, and went 2-2 in the finals, and one of those wins was pretty much gift wrapped by San Antonio.

 

Jordan went 6-0 in the finals, and he won them all in 5 or 6 games. No one even pushed him to the brink of elimination, let alone beat him. Camp is obviously too young to have seen Jordan in his prime, so I guess he just doesn't know any better.

[rmcjacket23]

He didn't have much of a chance with the injuries this year, but he played with 2 other all stars in Miami, and went 2-2 in the finals, and one of those wins was pretty much gift wrapped by San Antonio.

 

Jordan went 6-0 in the finals, and he won them all in 5 or 6 games. No one even pushed him to the brink of elimination, let alone beat him. Camp is obviously too young to have seen Jordan in his prime, so I guess he just doesn't know any better.

Still have absolutely no idea why LeBron is being compared to MJ. Not even for the reason that I don't think they're both great players, because they are. But mostly, because they're required and are skilled at very different things on a basketball court... don't think its that much different than comparing a center to a guard.

[baltimore1975]

Lebron didn't win his first year with Miami either. So I expect next year with a healthy team the Cavs will have a good shot at making it to the Finals. If you have at least one honest bone in your body there's no way you can't say he isn't the best basketball player in the world. The issue with guys like him and Jordan is they can be named MVP basically every year and how could you argue when they are the best in the game? They are/were always judged on their previous seasons on if they should earned MVP. Given it to other players from time to time gives the media something new to discuss.

[baltimore1975]

I'm not concerned about inexperienced receivers. Joe Flacco is the man in the playoffs. We just need to win our 10-11 games this year and let that man do his thing!

[rmcjacket23]

I'm not concerned about inexperienced receivers. Joe Flacco is the man in the playoffs. We just need to win our 10-11 games this year and let that man do his thing!

He's great in the playoffs for certain.

BUT remember... you got to get there first. If there's anything we should have learned from the last 2-3 seasons, its that you just can't go through the motions in the regular season and get in the dance. You've got play some pretty good football to get there. The last two seasons, just making the playoffs has been an incredible struggle for us. One year we did, the next year we didn't.

Playing inconsistent or poor football in the regular season, regardless of whether we rise to the occassion or not in the playoffs, can be the end of the season.

[Drew P]

Is that Suggs or Cody?

[NCMan]

I'm not concerned about inexperienced receivers. Joe Flacco is the man in the playoffs. We just need to win our 10-11 games this year and let that man do his thing!

You're not concerned about inexperienced receivers, but we're going to win 10-11 games. Got it.

[ratedr]

He didn't have much of a chance with the injuries this year, but he played with 2 other all stars in Miami, and went 2-2 in the finals, and one of those wins was pretty much gift wrapped by San Antonio.

Jordan went 6-0 in the finals, and he won them all in 5 or 6 games. No one even pushed him to the brink of elimination, let alone beat him. Camp is obviously too young to have seen Jordan in his prime, so I guess he just doesn't know any better.

The only series he's played that he lost where he should've won was Mavs 2011.

I honestly don't care about Jordan. Jordan fans who live in the past are annoying. I was 5 or so when Jordan was in his prime, I don't care about how great he was because I wasn't watching. All I know is that LeBron is the best player since I've become a fan. Keep reminiscing and you'll miss what's in front of you.

[cobrajet]

Jordan was a beast. Winning three straight championships in a row, then abruptly leaving the game to pursue a career in baseball, then coming back and winning three more championships in a row. IMHO, he was the best player I have ever seen play and I watched Wilt, Bill, Larry, Magic, Kareem, and the list goes on.