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[News] Arthur Brown Looking For A Way Onto Field

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May the best 53 guys make the roster. Thats all that matters I am pulling for Brown but if there are guys better than him then I want the best guys to win the roster spots.

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When the Ravens drafted Arthur he was the best player on their board OR they would not have traded up to draft him. In reality, he would be a current star in the AFC west or NFC south had the Ravens not picked him. The Saints could have used Arthur. Other teams too. Let's count the millions of dollars he has lost by being drafted by the Ravens. There is a reason. Why?...The Ravens are fat at LB and Arthur is the last in line. That's how it goes in the NFL. If the Ravens LB's suffer the same fate as the DB's did last year, Arthur could get his due. 

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but isnt it so painfully obvious how this plays out? brown is once again benched for the full season, daryl smith gets hurt next year, brown plays better than cj mosley, and we cant afford to keep him after his rookie deal, he goes elsewhere for tons of money, and sucks.

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daryl is up there in age and brown needs to show the coaches that he can take over next year and keep us from drafting an ilb early. big preseason for him

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Good thing is Ravens Coaches don't just hand out jobs, it needs to be earned. I think the only way Brown can get on the field is through ST. God forbid if any ILB got hurt that Orr or McClellan would start before Brown. IMO

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Brown could go elsewhere and play like Josh Bynes who started some games for the Lions last season.....and made the last tackle of the game in SB 47.

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but isnt it so painfully obvious how this plays out? brown is once again benched for the full season, daryl smith gets hurt next year, brown plays better than cj mosley, and we cant afford to keep him after his rookie deal, he goes elsewhere for tons of money, and sucks.

That made me laugh. Liked!

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Let's keep it real here, Brown needs to do what he's supposed to do and be in the best shape possible. We need to utilize Arthur and see if we can keep Daryl fresh come postseason because we are most likely going to be there. We moved up to draft him and he needs to prove to everybody why we did so. We all know he is more than talented, but I wish I knew why homie hasn't blossomed yet. Cheers to an injury-free and competitive training camp!!

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lol neg my post if you want, but its true and you all know it. it always happens, we grow them and breed them so that they can have 1 big year and then go elsewhere.

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May the best 53 guys make the roster. Thats all that matters I am pulling for Brown but if there are guys better than him then I want the best guys to win the roster spots.

Absolutely!

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When the Ravens drafted Arthur he was the best player on their board OR they would not have traded up to draft him. In reality, he would be a current star in the AFC west or NFC south had the Ravens not picked him. The Saints could have used Arthur. Other teams too. Let's count the millions of dollars he has lost by being drafted by the Ravens. There is a reason. Why?...The Ravens are fat at LB and Arthur is the last in line. That's how it goes in the NFL. If the Ravens LB's suffer the same fate as the DB's did last year, Arthur could get his due. 

The NFL draft is more than picking the players you need. It's also preventing other teams from getting players they need.

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lol neg my post if you want, but its true and you all know it. it always happens, we grow them and breed them so that they can have 1 big year and then go elsewhere.

I didn't neg ur post but I will disagree with you on this one. Yes, it is frequent that our homegrown talent leave, but Brown's situation is a little different from recent FA departees. This is Brown's third year and his contract will expire in 2016 but so is Daryl's contract, so picking up Arthur's 5th year option and then re-signing him is a must even if his price tag is heftier after a breakout year. Mosley and Brown are the future of the LB corp even if it doesn't seem that way right now.

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lol neg my post if you want, but its true and you all know it. it always happens, we grow them and breed them so that they can have 1 big year and then go elsewhere.

Your post does make some sense. We have watched it many times and most the time when the guy leaves he does not have the supporting cast around him and is average at best.

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Daryl Smith won't be here forever. And yes there is some truth to the assertion we grow them, use them for a year and they are gone. Well, if you look at the reason for that, it's not what you think. Brown can't get on the field because we have better players. Will the situation turn out like many others (I.e. Arthur Jones, Kruger, Ellerbee, McPhee) where there was a better player ahead of them until their final year, it's hard to tell. But that's a problem I will live with all day long. When you have really good players who hone their skill behind great players they are going to develop into great players too and we won't be able to afford them all. Arthur has the misfortune of being behind guys who won't be gone before his contract is up. That could be a very good thing for us and I have no doubt Arthur Brown could start on other teams. Remember we had so many good ILB we turned Rolando McLain loose and he was a pro bowler in Dallas. We haven't heard the last of Arthur Brown quite yet. Could be a nice trade piece (could be why we are talking him up).

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Anyone saying this guy would already be a star on another team doesn't understand the game. If Brown shows in practices that he's playing at a starter level, he makes it onto the field, even if only to spell Smith or Mosley for a few snaps. Pees loves to keep players fresh when he has that option. Weve seen it consistently with the defensive line and secondary. The fact that Brown really hasn't inspired that kind of confidence means he hasnt made the jump and really wouldn't have become a starter anywhere. hopefully this is the year he makes the jump and earns more playing time. If he shows he's worthy of subbing in, they'll absolutely sub him in. If not, he might be looking for employment.

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I heard he put on weight, which is a good thing.....I think Arthur gets it this year, and we will see a determined Brown step it up....

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MLBs are all around athletes anyway. They're the ones that rack up tackles while the linemen gobble up blockers. If know-how is the issue and our MLBs don't sub out on a rotation like the guys on the front, just stick him in on the rotation on the edges. It's more likely he gets playing time on the edge cuz we're always pinning our ears back and going full speed at the QB, so we need to rotate for stamina.

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I didn't neg ur post but I will disagree with you on this one. Yes, it is frequent that our homegrown talent leave, but Brown's situation is a little different from recent FA departees. This is Brown's third year and his contract will expire in 2016 but so is Daryl's contract, so picking up Arthur's 5th year option and then re-signing him is a must even if his price tag is heftier after a breakout year. Mosley and Brown are the future of the LB corp even if it doesn't seem that way right now.

i honestly didnt realize they both shared contract years. 

 

still though, the ravens have had no problem in the past with letting players walk because they tested the market and got offered a fat one. if some team comes by and offers arthur brown 20m guaranteed over 5 years you can bet the ravens will be carrying his luggage onto the plane for him, and even with players that are just decent that seems to be the kind of contracts they see after leaving here. 

 

wouldnt be surprised to see us magically find some late round or UDFA, or maybe even a pickup from another teams PS turn out to be a gem and we get 3-4 good years out of that.

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I didn't neg ur post but I will disagree with you on this one. Yes, it is frequent that our homegrown talent leave, but Brown's situation is a little different from recent FA departees. This is Brown's third year and his contract will expire in 2016 but so is Daryl's contract, so picking up Arthur's 5th year option and then re-signing him is a must even if his price tag is heftier after a breakout year. Mosley and Brown are the future of the LB corp even if it doesn't seem that way right now.

 

Perhaps we let Daryl Smith walk but if we just miss a Super Bowl bid, Daryl Smith will be a Raven until we carry him off the field on his shield!

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Make or break season for AB! It's basketball season and I'm rockin my "Kings of the AFC" T shirt for all the squeelers fans that made the trip over! Reppin to the fullest! Yup

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Some of you guys on this whole Arthur Brown is a victim and we build and drop players for one year is not true!!! You discredit a lot of people with that statement. Mainly the Raven coaches whose jobs consist of helping to develop players. Arthur Brown's situation took a bad turn because. Darryl Smith was brought over due to him being underrated and his years of experience to help younger players. The Ravens organization do a good job of keeping a mixture and not leaning towards a super young team and really old team (You will see a leader at every position this year except D-Line Haloti Ngata used to be). C. J.Mosley came about because the Ravens select the best player on the board instead of fulfilling a need (Bud Dupree is the Ravens first round pick this year if the Steelers don't draft him, and this whole article is irrelevant). The Ravens are similar to the Los Angeles Lakers when Phil Jackson was coach. They have so many quality backups that have the potential to start. If injury occur there is someone to replace almost everyone with the exception of Perriman, Juice, and Flacco (Seriously if you got a player I know his replacement already). We only keep truly exceptional players. Being able to start does not mean you will kept by the Ravens. If your not the next T-Sizzle, Dumervil, Yanda, Mosley, Forsett, Flacco,etc... (people who have extremely great quality or value). Go play for another team in the NFC where you can't contribute. Ngata is abad and good example. He was traded because of all the dead money with Ray Rice, but he will not be around a great supporting cast just like Suh was.

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I hope he has a huge year not stat wise but just all around production so when we win the Super Bowl this year D.Smith retires and then A.Brown become the future with Mosley

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Some of you guys on this whole Arthur Brown is a victim and we build and drop players for one year is not true!!! You discredit a lot of people with that statement. Mainly the Raven coaches whose jobs consist of helping to develop players. Arthur Brown's situation took a bad turn because. Darryl Smith was brought over due to him being underrated and his years of experience to help younger players. The Ravens organization do a good job of keeping a mixture and not leaning towards a super young team and really old team (You will see a leader at every position this year except D-Line Haloti Ngata used to be). C. J.Mosley came about because the Ravens select the best player on the board instead of fulfilling a need (Bud Dupree is the Ravens first round pick this year if the Steelers don't draft him, and this whole article is irrelevant). The Ravens are similar to the Los Angeles Lakers when Phil Jackson was coach. They have so many quality backups that have the potential to start. If injury occur there is someone to replace almost everyone with the exception of Perriman, Juice, and Flacco (Seriously if you got a player I know his replacement already). We only keep truly exceptional players. Being able to start does not mean you will kept by the Ravens. If your not the next T-Sizzle, Dumervil, Yanda, Mosley, Forsett, Flacco,etc... (people who have extremely great quality or value). Go play for another team in the NFC where you can't contribute. Ngata is abad and good example. He was traded because of all the dead money with Ray Rice, but he will not be around a great supporting cast just like Suh was.

explain the bolded please, are you saying bud dupree plays arthur browns position?

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thank's for clearing that up"BALLHAWK20", I guess RAY RICE had to get payed,and I told RAVEN'S MNGT. not to give a running back all that money,or any running back for that matter,I guess they didn't listen and it was a steep price to pay,so long NGATA and MCFEE, now we need to try and keep the o-line together.

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The Ravens are similar to the Los Angeles Lakers when Phil Jackson was coach. They have so many quality backups that have the potential to start. 

We are the opposite of the LA Lakers who either trade for all their players or sign other big names to compliment Kobe. I think a Spurs comparison would be better suited where all their talent is homegrown, players are brought in to fit the system, management doesn't go splurging in the free market and are consistently good each season.

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The Ravens plan on keeping all 5 of the MLB this year and next year. So look for Arthur to get a chance for some playing time this year. I think he might be able to rotate at OLB if needed. JUst a great LB corp again put on the field by Ozzie! Amazing how this team looks now compared to 2 days after FA.

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