Areas of weakness with current roster.

[JoeyFlex5]

i see no real weaknesses, only question marks 

 

wr - could be the strongest position, still a question mark considering one starter is 35, the other is a raw rookie, and everyone else is either a career journeyman or a late draft pick with an uphill climb, still a group with immense potential 

 

te - gillmore, still a bit unproven as a receiver, but has shown promise, maxx williams is anticipated to be a stud but rookie TE's very rarely come in and succeed right away, pitta will never be a full time player again, boyle is another rookie and is limited athletically, another group with huge potential 

 

ol - besides qb, the most proven group on the team, still has question marks, KO, monroe, zuttah, and wagner all have legitimate injury concerns, solid depth though, can james hurst take the next step if called upon? 

 

rb - can forsett carry the load another year and out of a kubiak called scheme? is buck allen the real deal? does LT get over the learning curve and can he learn to run behind his pads instead of under them? 

 

cb - top 5 shutdown guy in jimmy smith, a scheme diverse savvy ballhawk in webb, a top 3 slot corner in arrington, saw potential in melvin and ajax, but every single cb on the team not named rashaan or kyle has a looooong long injury history 

 

safety - will hill is, imo, the best SS in the league, and a decent but not great FS, if he can play at SS all year then we will see absolute dominance, he is the next ravens player to get a fat contract, but is kendrick lewis enough to let hill play at SS? does terrence brooks come back from his injury and realize his potential? can elam make a tackle? this is the biggest question mark in my opinion, still a group with some potential 

 

LB corps - 3 of our 4 starters could fall off a performance cliff at any given moment, they are all at that age, if that happens, can upshaw or ZD smith fill the void? im confident smith can, i think he will be our starter and perennial pro bowler for the next decade, i think highly of him, but im not so sure about upshaw, its a star studded position group but it has alot of miles on it, we also need to make sure dumervil and suggs dont get too many snaps this year because we have to keep them fresh, so our backups must perform well, does arthur brown take over in the future? 

 

DL - not many questions here, i would take our down 3 rotation over any front 4 in the league except for stl and seattle, williams is low key a top 3NT, jernigan will be top 3 at his position, carl davis and brent urban both have ridiculous potential and just need to iron a few things out to realize it, canty is a solid veteran presence and a good teacher of the game, clarence brooks is simply the greatest DL coach i have ever seen, he effortlessly churns out pro bowler's from no-names. 

 

thats my analysis, no weaknesses just question marks

[stampedehero]

been stating that schaub was waste of a pickup since day one. dude hasnt looked good in years and people were waiting in line at will call to hop on this dudes bandwagon when we signed him, smh. looks like im right yet again. although, i dont see our QB situation as an area of weakness because of Flaccos durability. it was just a huge waste of money.

 

i think the area of concern is defensive ends/ outside LBs, and of course our secondary. dumervil and suggs are getting up there in age, and the next group of young guys look decent, but with injury bugs and previous lack of playing time with that position, it may make or break our season. i hope these young guys can be there late season and playoffs with full tank of gas, because we cant count solely on suggs and dumervil. so far as secondary... no need to explain there. its already pretty obvious if you have been watching this team. im just really pulling for kendrick lewis more than any other player on the defense this year.

 

all other positions on our team look solid. Oline is prob top 5 in NFL. RBs will split carries and play dynamic. WR's are imo most underrated/ talented group of guys on our team. TEs will be beast without a doubt, plenty of two TE sets. Dline will prob be top 3 Dline in league, and LBs are BEAST. Two words.. CJ MOSLEY!!

Some QB has to give the PS inspiration.  

[52520Andrew]

I think my biggest concerns are injuries and the receivers all coming along on offense(that includes WR and TE). Also replacing filling the McPhee and Ngata roles would be nice.

Edited June 14, 2015 by 52520Andrew

[stampedehero]

I wouldn't include Arizona on that list. After Palmor went down they barely limped into the playoffs, and that was only due to them already have a comfortable lead in wins before he got injured. The Cardinals went from possible Super Bowl favorites to having no shot of winning a playoff game. Vikings also lost what slim shot they had when they had to use a backup in the playoffs.

At least they made Playoffs unlike the Eagles who had the lineup and were eliminated three weeks prior. .

[Ravensfan23]

My biggest area of concern is youth. The Ravens have a young team but just enough veteran leaders to show the young guys what "Play Like A Raven" means. That statement much like the 7 Nation Army chant is not exclusive to Baltimore so I'm sure guys have heard it from others teams. However in both cases, there is a level of belief and it means something. As young as the team is, i don't worry about them developing that passion and certain sense of pride that comes with reppin this Organization, Team and City, because Harbs does a great job instilling it from day one.

Over the past two years this team has shown a nact for not closing games. Most of that has come from injuries forcing new faces in key places but also youth has played a part. I said youth was my only concern but it's not really a concern because we have great leadership. It's just banking on so much potential to come together at the same time could be risky.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

you couldbnt be more wrong. depend solely on a rookie? unproven players? lol. we probably wont even start perriman right out of the gate. we'll be throwing balls at kamar aiken, marlon brown, SSS, etc who have all proven themselves... perriman will trickle into the playbook, barring a major injury on another starter. our WR group is one of the strongest assets on our team.

 

 

I agree with him.WR and TE are our biggest areas of weakness right now.Kamar Aiken and Marlon Brown aren't strong assets if you ask me.I can't remember seeing Marlon beat man coverage once in the two seasons he's played with us.And while Aiken showed flashes last year we'd still be taking a huge leap of faith starting him.He had 0 production before 2014 and only had 200 yards and 2 tds last year.Neither of them would stand a chance at starting on any other team in the AFC outside of maybe Jacksonville and on atleast 10 of the other teams in the AFC they wouldn't even be the third best guy.RavensNick was right.Our passing game will depend on whether or not Perriman is ready to go or not.If he looks bad in the preseason we'll probably look for a trade or sign a vet like we did in Torreys rookie year.I have a little more faith in our TE group because I don't think Pitta is going to call it a career yet.I still think it would be smart to bring in Gresham for a workout though.He's a proven probowl caliber player and his market is starting to heat up.

Edited June 14, 2015 by HomeoftheBRAVENS

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I think the biggest weakness right now for the whole team is also potentially the biggest strength. The rookies and young guys being asked to produce from day 1. It all depends on how fast they pick it up and put it all together. I really think this year is going to be a fun year for us Raven fans and I think it's all going to work out just fine but there are still a lot of questions to be answered.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Agreed.  Sounds like our backup QB this year is worse than the one we had the past 3 years at 5x the cost.

 

Tryod would've cost us the same and for limited return.  Schaub is proven veteran in Kubiak's system.  THAT is what they're paying him for.  Trestman's system is close and using Schaub's experience gets it closer.  He's an average QB who benefitted from some smart offensive scheming.  He also has plenty of football left if need be, but just about any back up QB will rely on the run game.  We are fortunate to have Schaub without any other viable back-up on rostoer or in ffree agency.

been stating that schaub was waste of a pickup since day one. dude hasnt looked good in years and people were waiting in line at will call to hop on this dudes bandwagon when we signed him, smh. looks like im right yet again. although, i dont see our QB situation as an area of weakness because of Flaccos durability. it was just a huge waste of money.

 

See my above comments.  The team knows what its doing. While I hope Schaub never gets used it's not a comment on his ability as much as it is in my faith that Flacco is head an shoulders better than all but 5 QBs in the league.  He'll make his case for top 5 this year (as always) but with all the talent on roster, Schaub is more than capable of running this offense.  JaMarcuys Russel could probably even win a few with this offense.  

The weakest position is WR as it stands.  Before we talk rookies you have Steve Smith who's snaps the Ravens talked about reducing this year in order to make sure he holds up and then a bunch of WR who showed they can be okay 3rd and 4th WR but none of them really looked like they could jump to the number 2 WR spot on the team.  So even if Perriman turns out to be a little worse then Torrey, which would be a strong rookie season, you are still looking at a fairly weak position barring any late round picks and undrafted picks somehow making the transition which not impossible is not something one counts on.

 

After that its probably TE.  The TE group is Pitta who may or may not play, Gillmore who is okay but not spectacular and then 2 rookies who have never played a game which means you should never overestimate them.  I think they wont be weak as blockers but its possible the Ravens will be lacking a great pass catching TE this year.

 

Im still worried slightly about the corner position even though they did add depth there Arrington cant really play the outside and the corners all got hurt so they now are all injury prone but it is unlikely that such a perfect storm happens again but I would still rank it as the 3rd biggest area of weakness if only because the rest of the roster is filled with quality starters and quality depth.

There are some concerns about these positions for me too, but not a cause for any real concern imo.  Perriman is a day one starter.  He has 1000+ yards written all over him and might be better than Torrey soon than later.  But he will be better that's for sure.  Smith Sr. will not see reduced snaps.  He'll be the main receiver and leader for the first 6-8 weeks at least.  I fully expect someone to step up and supplant him as the No.1 WR but he will also be flirting with 1000 yards of production too. I'm also comfident in Aiken, Brown, Waller, Camp and Butler.  These guys will continue to develop and are already quality depth.

 

TE seems thin on the surface.  No gurantees, but Pitta looks like he might be healthy.  Even if he isn't I think the combo od Gillmore, Williams and Boyle, though very young, will be a potent squad.  Gillmore is looking like he could be our Gronk.  He has the hands, the athleticism and the size (nearly equal).  He WILL be a miss match nightmare.  Willaims is unproven, but he plays like his hair is on fire (that's not a ginger joke, honest).  He'll need to mature some, but he has good hands and speed.  Boyle is raw, but how much are you expecting from a blocking TE?  Still he has flashed some nice hands in OTAs.

 

Cornerback is looking good with a lot of potential in the current group.  Adding Arrington was HUGE.  He might be best in the slot, but he's not awful on the outside.  Our secondary coaching is one of the best and could polish that part of his game if he ever needs to take over for Webb or Smith.  Beyond that, Melvin has another year under his belt after a solid, surprise showing last year.  No reason to think that he regresses.  Wlaker is questionmark only because he's unproven at this level.  But if the Ravens think he's worth a 4th round pick then they believe he'll contribute.  Even a raw rookie can be effective in close quarters where he doesn't have a lot of diagnosing to do - especially if his has the largest reach and one of the longest frames of his position in his draft class.  Jackson has been slow to improve, but he has value on S/T and will continue to improve.  His biggest problem is getting through a full season.  If he can do that he'll be solid.  

[redrum52]

WR and OLB depth. Next would be safeties. Regardless, I feel very comfortable with this team going into the season and I know moves aren't finished yet.

[kassaiscool]

Biggest ? for me is OLB position. I wonder if Suggs and Dumervil can still produce at the level they produced last season. If they don't or one of them get injured who is there to replace that production? The safety position is also shaky in my eyes, but if Matt Elam plays up to his potential with will hill back there I believe they can be solid.

[Cillmatic]

Biggest ? for me is OLB position. I wonder if Suggs and Dumervil can still produce at the level they produced last season. If they don't or one of them get injured who is there to replace that production? The safety position is also shaky in my eyes, but if Matt Elam plays up to his potential with will hill back there I believe they can be solid.

Dumervil just had the best year of his career, he'll be a top pass rusher for a few more years.

[rmcjacket23]

In theory, there's really only 3 positions that I have extreme confidence in performing well at... OL, MLB, and QB (I like many don't really care about QB depth). I think we are rock solid and among the league's best in those two areas. 

 

Pass rush and DL seem to be in pretty good shape, but there are some question marks/unknowns in that area. DL is extremely young, and will probably feature a heavy rotation. As long as Dumervil/Suggs are healthy, I expect them to be productive for the time being, and we have some guys I think can rush on occasion successfully. I'd lump RB into this "fine" area because as long as the OL is playing well, I think anybody can run the ball successfully for us.

 

CB appears to have improved, but there's some uncertainty there. Webb has to play better and stay healthy, and Jimmy has to come back from his injury well and stay healthy. Depth is still a mild concern for me, but not a huge one.

 

Safety is an intriguing position, because we know Will Hill can play well but not much else. We think Lewis could be good, but we thought the same thing about Huff. Not a lot of high quality depth there unless Elam plays a lot better.

 

WR/TE is a complete wildcard for me. I have practically no expectations, and nothing would shock me. They could light the world on fire, or they could struggle incredibly. Neither would surprise me. Just one big gigantic question mark for me right now.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah I'll echo sentiments regarding concern surrounding our OLB group. Dumervil and Suggs are older but both very good players. The question is when will they slow down? I think the key will be OLB rotation, which was strong with McPhee but can it sustain without him? That's the question. I like what I've seen from Smith so I'm cautiously optimistic. I also like Steven Means. He's a guy who holds a lot of promise and this could be a breakout year for Upshaw. I think our OLB will be hit or miss. I do think we'll address the position with a high pick next year.

[rmw10]

So, to give an actual answer to this, I like what Ravensfan23 said.  My concern is that we're relying on a lot of young guys to step up.  I love the fact that we're doing it, but I also recognize that it's not a perfect recipe.  A lot of our positions look deep (WR, TE, DL in particular), but there's a lot of inexperience at those positions at the same time.  The hope is that they all work out, but I know that's not always the case.

 

If you're pigeonholing me into picking one position, I'll go TE, especially if Pitta doesn't come back.  I think Maxx is going to have a learning curve, which could really put a damper on the receiving aspect of the position.

 

The depth at OLB in particular is a bit worrisome, but it's good if we stay healthy.

[gabefergy]

I would say the relative lack of proven experience at WR/TE. There is a lot of potential upside there and decent depth as well, but it's also possible that it doesn't all come together.

 

DL many see as an area of strength, but we are counting on several young guys taking a step forward. I think the odds are high that this happens, but similar to WR and TE, there is a lot of inexperienced players that will likely see a lot of snaps.

[Adreme]

 

There are some concerns about these positions for me too, but not a cause for any real concern imo.  Perriman is a day one starter.  He has 1000+ yards written all over him and might be better than Torrey soon than later.  But he will be better that's for sure.  Smith Sr. will not see reduced snaps.  He'll be the main receiver and leader for the first 6-8 weeks at least.  I fully expect someone to step up and supplant him as the No.1 WR but he will also be flirting with 1000 yards of production too. I'm also comfident in Aiken, Brown, Waller, Camp and Butler.  These guys will continue to develop and are already quality depth.

 

 

Either the Ravens have been lying all offseason or Steve Smith will see reduced because they saw his production drop off at the tail end of last season after being top 5 in the league for the first half and that was attributed to giving him to many snaps.  Personally I attribute it to teams realizing he was the Ravens number 1 WR and not Torrey but I also think its foolish to dismiss fatigue as also playing a part.

 

I would be thrilled if Perriman were better then Torrey year 1 but that is a lot to ask of a rookie and not every rookie is going to be Mosley, and of course the Ravens did not get to pick much earlier to boost there chances of grabbing another Mosley.  Maybe he was not the 5th WR on the Ravens board but without knowing there board I can assume he was at least 3rd  just based on who was drafted ahead which means there were 2 WR they thought they could get more out of.

 

Even if he manages to be as good which would likely put him in contention for rookie of the year which is asking a lot of the 5th WR picked but I think he can pull it off then the Ravens WR core is still worse then last year and it was not great last year.   Camp looks like he can play the slot but he keeps getting hurt, Brown cant get seperation and somehow cant win jump balls over people he is 6-7 inches taller then so its basically can Aiken take the next step and become a number 2 WR or was he basically another average player made to look better then that by Flacco.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

The weakest position is WR as it stands. Before we talk rookies you have Steve Smith who's snaps the Ravens talked about reducing this year in order to make sure he holds up and then a bunch of WR who showed they can be okay 3rd and 4th WR but none of them really looked like they could jump to the number 2 WR spot on the team. So even if Perriman turns out to be a little worse then Torrey, which would be a strong rookie season, you are still looking at a fairly weak position barring any late round picks and undrafted picks somehow making the transition which not impossible is not something one counts on.

After that its probably TE. The TE group is Pitta who may or may not play, Gillmore who is okay but not spectacular and then 2 rookies who have never played a game which means you should never overestimate them. I think they wont be weak as blockers but its possible the Ravens will be lacking a great pass catching TE this year.

Im still worried slightly about the corner position even though they did add depth there Arrington cant really play the outside and the corners all got hurt so they now are all injury prone but it is unlikely that such a perfect storm happens again but I would still rank it as the 3rd biggest area of weakness if only because the rest of the roster is filled with quality starters and quality depth.

While you're right that WR and TE are depending on a lot of question marks in order to be successful. But Aiken and Brown caught everything thrown their way last year. Their opportunities were just limited because SSS and Torrey were in front of them. I fully expect that at least one if not both can match Torrey's production if given the same opportunity. Aikens been very impressive so far in OTA's.

Basically if just one player, most likely Perriman, can replace Torrey's production and value, then we'll absolutely be better off at WR then last year. Because after that everyone else has an additional year of experience or is a new rookie addition. At the very least were definitely more talented at WR. So even if it is our weakest position, it's only bc of how strong we are everywhere else... And it will be better than the group that was the best offense in franchise history.

Weakest maybe... Something to be worried about? Nope.

And at TE I think Pitta will play and play well by the mid point. And Gillmore has been arguably the most impressive pass catcher this offseason. So calling him only a blocker just isn't true any more. And Maxx will be in a great position where he won't have the load on his shoulders early bc Gillmore is goin to be so effective, so he'll get put into good positions going against weak safeties or Lbers that he can exploit to have success.

Worst case scenerio he's a really good backup for us this year - best case he wins the starting job which means he'll have had a great camp/preseason with success on the field.

Again, it may still be one of our biggest weaknesses on paper bc of the unknown factor, but even so I think we'll easily be better, more versatile and deeper at TE than last year. And it could just as easily become one of our greatest strengths if Pitta can return to form, Crockett is as improved as advertised and Maxx achieves his potential we could have the best TE group in the league.

[Static]

Why are yall hating on our safety situation. Will Hill , Kendrick Lewis , Matt Elam , Terrence Brooks , Levine is fine

[rmcjacket23]

Why are yall hating on our safety situation. Will Hill , Kendrick Lewis , Matt Elam , Terrence Brooks , Levine is fine

Because we have no idea if Kendrick Lewis will be good or not, the last we saw of Elam he was horrendous, and Brooks likely starts the year on PUP and may never even play a snap this season.

[rmw10]

Why are yall hating on our safety situation. Will Hill , Kendrick Lewis , Matt Elam , Terrence Brooks , Levine is fine

 

It was a little more questionable when Brooks was going to start on the PUP, but with him potentially being ready for the season (if participation in OTAs is any indication), I'm much more comfortable.  I'd still love to get Jeromy Miles back, though.

[Ravensfan23]

Either the Ravens have been lying all offseason or Steve Smith will see reduced because they saw his production drop off at the tail end of last season after being top 5 in the league for the first half and that was attributed to giving him to many snaps.  Personally I attribute it to teams realizing he was the Ravens number 1 WR and not Torrey but I also think its foolish to dismiss fatigue as also playing a part.

 

I would be thrilled if Perriman were better then Torrey year 1 but that is a lot to ask of a rookie and not every rookie is going to be Mosley, and of course the Ravens did not get to pick much earlier to boost there chances of grabbing another Mosley.  Maybe he was not the 5th WR on the Ravens board but without knowing there board I can assume he was at least 3rd  just based on who was drafted ahead which means there were 2 WR they thought they could get more out of.

 

Even if he manages to be as good which would likely put him in contention for rookie of the year which is asking a lot of the 5th WR picked but I think he can pull it off then the Ravens WR core is still worse then last year and it was not great last year.   Camp looks like he can play the slot but he keeps getting hurt, Brown cant get seperation and somehow cant win jump balls over people he is 6-7 inches taller then so its basically can Aiken take the next step and become a number 2 WR or was he basically another average player made to look better then that by Flacco.

 

This is flat out laughable imo. But it's your opinion so if you wouldn't mind, could you please provide me examples of the bolded statement. I'm starting to see a few fans knock Brown and claim he can't get separation, he doesn't beat man to man coverage, he sucked last season. However i've never once seen anyone provide anythig of substances or even resembling a fact to support these claims. Can you please tell me how you've come to this conclusion of Brown because the games i've watched suggest that the people who are putting Brown down, just didn't watch much of him last year. They only saw the last of TDs and catches compared to his rookie year and determined that he had to have a poor season. Any actual cases you can point to, to prove what you said about Brown? 

 

By an example what i mean is something along the lines of this. The NFL Network showed a replay of the Ravens vs Chargers game from week 14 today.  Marlon Brown had 3 catches in that game before leaving early in the 2nd quarter with a concussion. His 3 catches all came vs man coverage, which he gained separation from his defender. The first catch was a 1 handed grab on a ball thrown behind him, the second catch was on a strong comeback route and the 3rd was on a jumpball that resulted in the concussion. In fact I can't remember one time Marlon Brown didn't win when called upon. 

 

I'd say Marlon Brown is a question mark, but I wouldn't call him a weakness at all. 

[Edgar]

Notably the injury to Wagner has me in wait and see mode.

I'd like to see more out of both Zuttah and Monroe.

[Edgar]

This is flat out laughable imo. But it's your opinion so if you wouldn't mind, could you please provide me examples of the bolded statement. I'm starting to see a few fans knock Brown and claim he can't get separation, he doesn't beat man to man coverage, he sucked last season. However i've never once seen anyone provide anythig of substances or even resembling a fact to support these claims. Can you please tell me how you've come to this conclusion of Brown because the games i've watched suggest that the people who are putting Brown down, just didn't watch much of him last year. They only saw the last of TDs and catches compared to his rookie year and determined that he had to have a poor season. Any actual cases you can point to, to prove what you said about Brown? 

 

By an example what i mean is something along the lines of this. The NFL Network showed a replay of the Ravens vs Chargers game from week 14 today.  Marlon Brown had 3 catches in that game before leaving early in the 2nd quarter with a concussion. His 3 catches all came vs man coverage, which he gained separation from his defender. The first catch was a 1 handed grab on a ball thrown behind him, the second catch was on a strong comeback route and the 3rd was on a jumpball that resulted in the concussion. In fact I can't remember one time Marlon Brown didn't win when called upon. 

 

I'd say Marlon Brown is a question mark, but I wouldn't call him a weakness at all.

Marlon brown has worked hard to be a good special teams player and has become a very good blocker.

He has shown, if nothing else as a receiver that he will catch the ball. He knows how to get directly up field after the catch, and I like him in the clutch. In short, he is a good football player and I don't get the bashing.

[FlackAttack]

Biggest ? for me is OLB position. I wonder if Suggs and Dumervil can still produce at the level they produced last season. If they don't or one of them get injured who is there to replace that production? The safety position is also shaky in my eyes, but if Matt Elam plays up to his potential with will hill back there I believe they can be solid.

 

i couldnt agree more. exactly what i posted earlier.. suggs and dumervil are both up there in age, theres no way just them two can play at 110% well into january. they are both great OLB's, but they tend to disappear. they were invisible in new england last year. and on top of that we lost mcphee. so between him and ngata being gone, jernigan has HUGE shoes to fill. but i have faith in him, and upshaw is highly questionable getting after the QB.

 

matt elam will not be starter because of lewis. but not saying lewis will be any better, he has yet to prove to the fans that he can come in week 1 and play ravens football for a full season well into january. thats how this team plays year in and year out, and those are the types of players that we pickup to succeed. durable work horses that will wrap up an open field tackle late in the 4th quarter during a tight divisional round game. elam is the exact opposite of that, which is why he was replaced ASAP. this organization will not tolerate that kind of foolishness. 

Edited June 15, 2015 by FlackAttack

[Ravensfan23]

While you're right that WR and TE are depending on a lot of question marks in order to be successful. But Aiken and Brown caught everything thrown their way last year. Their opportunities were just limited because SSS and Torrey were in front of them. I fully expect that at least one if not both can match Torrey's production if given the same opportunity. Aikens been very impressive so far in OTA's.

Basically if just one player, most likely Perriman, can replace Torrey's production and value, then we'll absolutely be better off at WR then last year. Because after that everyone else has an additional year of experience or is a new rookie addition. At the very least were definitely more talented at WR. So even if it is our weakest position, it's only bc of how strong we are everywhere else... And it will be better than the group that was the best offense in franchise history.

Weakest maybe... Something to be worried about? Nope.

 

 

I agree 100%. This is no knock to Torrey at all. But if we can't replace 49 catches and 767 yards we are truly in a bad spot at WR. The biggest thing Torrey brought to the offense last year was the fear of the big play, which resulted in a lot of PIs and TDs. I think at some point we have to look at numbers and project as best as we can because that's all you can do. Torrey was targeted 92 times last season and caught slightly over 50% with 49recs. Now i know some will bring up the deep PI calls that Torrey draws but because they resulted into penalties they aren't recorded as targets. Obviously the deeper the pass attempt the less chance you have of completing it, but for anyone to catch only 50% they can't be reviewed as a reliable part of your offense imo. Again no knock to Torrey. 

 

So you look at both Brown and Aiken last season, both completed over 70% of the targets thrown to them. Now obviously the more targets you get and the better the defenders you are matched up against those numbers come down a bit. However my point is this, if given the same 92 targets of Torrey, I have no doubt that Marlon Brown would be able to produce the same 49rec and would probably hike that total up to about 65-70recs. How can I get so sure of that, well because as a rookie he was given 81 chances to make a catch and completed 49 of them and he's improved as a WR. So I'm a lot more confident in Marlon Brown then some others are. As for Aiken I think he'd be able to produce those 49 catches if given the chance, as well i'm just not as confident in him as Marlon because I haven't seen a large enough sample. 

 

If given the red zone targets I believe that those guys could make up for the 11 TDs Torrey had, even if it has to be a combination of those two or a TE. The only thing I worry about our current WRs replacing from Torrey is the fear of the deep ball and that's just something Perriman will have to establish as the season goes on. If given the same chances I think Perriman would produce he same type stats as Torrey and probably better because he's a better possesion guy. Again I say if our WRs can't produce the same type of production we've had over the past 2-3 years then we have a serious problems. 

[Ravensfan23]

Marlon brown has worked hard to be a good special teams player and has become a very good blocker.

He has shown, if nothing else as a receiver that he will catch the ball. He knows how to get directly up field after the catch, and I like him in the clutch. In short, he is a good football player and I don't get the bashing.

 

That's the thing I don't get. I blame fantasy football. The fan base absolutely loved Marlon Brown as a rookie because of the "numbers" he produced. However the guy was flat out terrible as a rookie lol. He ran poor routes and that's when he actually ran the right routes. He won on pure talent and athleticism. He was just blessed that the Ravens didn't have many if any other options so we force feed him the ball. As you mentioned, he's worked hard to develop into a good player and some fans seem to hate him for it. 

 

I thought things were bad for guys like David Reed and Tandon Doss with the fan base, but at least people had a reason to dislike them as unfair as it may have been. I can't pinpoint one reason why Marlon Brown gets the hate he does. 

[Tru11]

TE at the moment since we will rely on a rookie and 2nd year player Gilmore who played limited snaps last year.

 

all other positions we have a veteran presence except here.

 

unless pitta ofcourse is ready to go week 1 which I doubt btw.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Area of weakness is durability. Pretty much all of our top cast starters has a high probability of having setbacks/injury history.

Jerg, Wagner,Monroe,CJ,Jimmy,Webb,Pitta, KO,Brandon,Sizzle...etc etc.

I suppose a good thing is that we have depth, so if our stars fall we have a backup plan.

[itscbm5042]

Our offensive depth this year is young and unproven, which is exciting and concerning at the same time. They have very high ceiligns but we also don't know their floor. Having a veteran TE for example last year, initially for depth, was really important to Joe. This year unless Pitta comes back, Gilmore is the veteran! with 2 complete unknowns behind him. Wide receiver same thing, Steve Smith and then your vets are guys like Aiken and Brown with unknowns behind them. The defense I am less concerned with because we have veteran depth, the offense nada. Perriman and Maxx could come in and be awesome right away, but if they aren't... we don't really know what we have.

[Sami84]

make no mistake..next year our first pick will be an OLB. Unless Darius smith shows something beyond what we would expect of him i have no doubt.