The G.o.a.t.

[Marc2k6]

Ed Reed AKA Clark Kent AKA SuperMan AKA the G.O.A.T. does it again! This man is with out a doubt the Greatest Of All Time! There is no way Ed Reed is not the Defensive player of the year. He is the Ultimate Game Changer! Another name AKA U.G.C.

[Ravens_fan]

I approve this post.

[p0!]

I support this thread as well, 2 future HOF 1st rounder's who have changed the way 2 seperate positions are played on 1 team.

ITS GOOD TO BE A RAVEN

p.s. who did your ravens tattoo? i got 2 already 1 from westside tat's just wondering if they did that as well.

[Jordan_Ravens]

Bow down to the G.O.A.T.

[smashmouth]

Anyone else notice that Reed is now healthy?.. sure you do.. Imigine If He was at the begining of the season, He's only getting better while still not slowing down. 2 players on the same team at the same time who is the G.o.a.t.

[JonM229]

I'm guessing the upcoming game will be decided by whose defense can score more points.

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='120125' date='Jan 5 2009, 01:39 AM']Ed Reed AKA Clark Kent AKA SuperMan AKA the G.O.A.T. does it again! This man is without a doubt the Greatest Of All Time! There is no way Ed Reed is not the Defensive player of the year. He is the Ultimate Game Changer! Another name AKA U.G.C. [/quote]

Just one thing, Ray Lewis is already "The G.O.A.T." and even though Ed is without a shadow of a doubt the greatest safety, I don't think he's gonna wanna take Ray Ray's nickname. Reed can be the B.O.A.T. He's the "H.O.F."=Hall Of Famer. He's AMPed=Always Makes Plays. The original "X factor". We can call him "T.G.O"=The Great One. I like "The Hitman" because he's the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be. He'd make a great wingman because he always helps you score.
If the ball was a cold, Reed is the only one catching it, the only one coming down with it.
The earth is 1/3 land 2/3 water. Reed covers it all after he got that boat.

[bengaaaaals1688]

Not the greatest safety of all time, but probably the greatest safety of the present.

[bkirha1]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='120383' date='Jan 5 2009, 01:58 PM']Not the greatest safety of all time, but probably the greatest safety of the present.[/quote]

Give me someone better!

Lott? No
Woodson? No
Lynch? No
Houston? No

[bengaaaaals1688]

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[Marc2k6]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='120391' date='Jan 5 2009, 02:10 PM']Explain how Lott isn't better... Explain how a Steve Atwater isn't better... Explain how ANY of these guys aren't better...

Just because they didn't get as many INTs doesn't mean they aren't better. A safety does more than that, and these are the guys who revolutionized the position. Lott is the guy who was able to not only play against the run very well, but play coverage (even without the INTs), and keep WRs from wanting to come across the middle.

Atwater and Lynch are 2 of the best run playing safeties to ever play the game, and could bring a load that felt like you were being hit by a DL. Reed is a great safety, and will probably go down as being the top 5 of all time, but he is not the best, and until the end of his career I will never even think about putting him as the best. There's a reason why it's over a career, and not just when someone decides to put them up there.[/quote]


Yeah OK. Right! Um Hu! I do not have to explain anything to anyone with bengals in his/her name.

[bkirha1]

Ed Reed changes games. And he has been doing it his whole career. As someone said earlier, he has single handedly changed the position (after they guys you listed "revolutionized" it)

Its not all about he picks. Have you seen Ed really hit somebody? He brings it too.
Here is why I believe he is the GOAT

1. He is a threat to score on the DEFENSIVE SIDE of the ball every snap
2. Best "ball hawking" and most "aware" safety ever
3. Best "hands" on a safety i've ever seen, he catches like a WR
4. Smartest player on the field
5. Anticipation, anticipation, anticipation
6. Great on the Run & Pass
7. [b]HEART[/b]

The only player I can honeslty say is close is Lott, and even then you can make a hell of an argument for ED. Either way, we are blessed to have him as a career raven.

[bengaaaaals1688]

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[macbrak]

Polamalu should get points deducted for vanity. Think of how many more picks he'd get if you couldn't immediately pick him out.

[bengaaaaals1688]

[quote name='macbrak' post='120667' date='Jan 5 2009, 08:04 PM']Polamalu should get points deducted for vanity. Think of how many more picks he'd get if you couldn't immediately pick him out.[/quote]

And how many more TDs he could get if they couldn't tackle him by his hair.

[Marc2k6]

Polamalu does many of the same things as Reed, and has gotten more recognition (for whatever ungodly reason this has taken place), and that may end up forcing Reed to not climb as high as he probably should/could.


Polamalu's game play and recognition goes hand in hand with the Steeler's and how they play. It has no effect on the status of Ed Reed. Now Lott, Atwater and Lynch are all great player when it came to playing in the box and just laying the wood on WR's, TE's, RB's or anyone else who may come in contact with the ball. Now Ed Reed does so many thing on the field, he has the best hands and ball hawking skills, when the ball is in the air. He is more likely to run the route for a completion than the WR. Game play, it is like he calls the plays for the QB because it seems as if he already knows what is coming. Playing the run, Reed can and will crash down in the box and play the run and make solid tackles, he may not blow you up like Lott or Lynch but he can from time to time. Special teams play, how many times has Reed blocked a punt or field goal. Just knowing he can opens lanes for other to make plays, plus if he does block it he may also return it for a TD. Ed Reed now make a team think twice about a long field goal for fear of a TD return. Ed Reed can also return punt's and kickoff's which he is pretty good at doing. How many Safeties have the return skills that Ed Reed has once he intercepts the ball? Somebody please name one other guy that can do it like Ed Reed. Now I can not deny it is nice to see a WR get laid out during a play but it is 10x better to watch the ball go the other way for a TD and you have seen both from ED Reed. TheG.O.A.T. (safety)

[3Zach21]

Through 88 Career games, Polamalu has 432 tackles, 7 sacks, 53 Passes defended, [b]17 INT's[/b], [b]1 TD[/b], [b]210 returning yards on those INT's, with his longest interception return of 49[/b]..

Through 106 Career games, Reed has 408 tackles, 5 Sacks, 65 Passes defended, [b]43 INT's[/b], [b]5 TD's[/b](not including post season), [b]1,144 Return Yards on those INT's[/b], [b]with his longest interception return of 107[/b]

Polamalu Averages:
[b]4.9 Tackles a game.[/b]
[b].08 Sacks a game.[/b]
.60 Passes defensed a game.
.19 INT's a game
.01 TD's a game

Reed Averages:
3.8 Tackles a game
.04 Sacks a game
.60 Passes defensed a game.
[b].40 INT's a game[/b]
[b].04 TD's a game[/b]

Its not close

[bengaaaaals1688]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='120952' date='Jan 6 2009, 09:38 AM']Polamalu does many of the same things as Reed, and has gotten more recognition (for whatever ungodly reason this has taken place), and that may end up forcing Reed to not climb as high as he probably should/could.


Polamalu's game play and recognition goes hand in hand with the Steeler's and how they play. It has no effect on the status of Ed Reed. Now Lott, Atwater and Lynch are all great player when it came to playing in the box and just laying the wood on WR's, TE's, RB's or anyone else who may come in contact with the ball. Now Ed Reed does so many thing on the field, he has the best hands and ball hawking skills, when the ball is in the air. He is more likely to run the route for a completion than the WR. Game play, it is like he calls the plays for the QB because it seems as if he already knows what is coming. Playing the run, Reed can and will crash down in the box and play the run and make solid tackles, he may not blow you up like Lott or Lynch but he can from time to time. Special teams play, how many times has Reed blocked a punt or field goal. Just knowing he can opens lanes for other to make plays, plus if he does block it he may also return it for a TD. Ed Reed now make a team think twice about a long field goal for fear of a TD return. Ed Reed can also return punt's and kickoff's which he is pretty good at doing. How many Safeties have the return skills that Ed Reed has once he intercepts the ball? Somebody please name one other guy that can do it like Ed Reed. Now I can not deny it is nice to see a WR get laid out during a play but it is 10x better to watch the ball go the other way for a TD and you have seen both from ED Reed. TheG.O.A.T. (safety) [/quote]

Return skills don't make someone a great safety, they make them a versatile player. Reggie Bush is a great return man, but he is a garbage RB. Return skills are moot in this discussion.

Ronnie Lott could play the pass about as well as Reed, he just made hits more often than picking the ball off. He showed on numerous occasions that he can be a ball hawk like the rest of the "coverage" safeties, but what Lott did that Reed can't, is scare WRs to the point that they flat refused to run routes in the middle of the field against him. QBs didn't want to test him for 2 reason, they didn't want to kill their WRs and didn't want to take the chance that maybe Lott would actually just take the ball with him. After a pick it's no contest, but I'd take Lott in a heartbeat, with Reed soon after.

32Zach... I said Polamalu isn't as good as Reed, so I'm confused about what your post is supposed to tell me.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='121500' date='Jan 6 2009, 10:45 PM']Return skills don't make someone a great safety, they make them a versatile player. Reggie Bush is a great return man, but he is a garbage RB. Return skills are moot in this discussion.

Ronnie Lott could play the pass about as well as Reed, he just made hits more often than picking the ball off. He showed on numerous occasions that he can be a ball hawk like the rest of the "coverage" safeties, but what Lott did that Reed can't, is scare WRs to the point that they flat refused to run routes in the middle of the field against him. QBs didn't want to test him for 2 reason, they didn't want to kill their WRs and didn't want to take the chance that maybe Lott would actually just take the ball with him. After a pick it's no contest, but I'd take Lott in a heartbeat, with Reed soon after.

32Zach... I said Polamalu isn't as good as Reed, so I'm confused about what your post is supposed to tell me.[/quote]

OK. Well maybe Lott can come out of retirement and play for the Bengal's!!!

[WashingtonStreetBully]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='121500' date='Jan 6 2009, 11:45 PM']Return skills don't make someone a great safety, they make them a versatile player. Reggie Bush is a great return man, but he is a garbage RB. Return skills are moot in this discussion.

Ronnie Lott could play the pass about as well as Reed, he just made hits more often than picking the ball off. He showed on numerous occasions that he can be a ball hawk like the rest of the "coverage" safeties, but what Lott did that Reed can't, is scare WRs to the point that they flat refused to run routes in the middle of the field against him. QBs didn't want to test him for 2 reason, they didn't want to kill their WRs and didn't want to take the chance that maybe Lott would actually just take the ball with him. After a pick it's no contest, but I'd take Lott in a heartbeat, with Reed soon after.

32Zach... I said Polamalu isn't as good as Reed, so I'm confused about what your post is supposed to tell me.[/quote]

Im sorry man...but i completely disagree with you. I may be biased 'cause im a Raven all day all night but i would take Reed over Lott any day. Reed has laid plenty of wood over his 7 year career, forcing fumbles, sacking the QB, forcing drops, bad throws etc. His mere presence on the field forces opposing teams to game plan against him, and 70% of the time it doesnt matter. Hes as multi-dimensional and as smart as any safety of all time. Dont get me wrong Lott laid the wood, intimidated people, has all the great tackle numbers and all that good stuff, but Ed Reed changes games, wins games, and absolutely scares the piss out of every offensive coordinator in the league. Ed Reed may not be the consensus best safety of all time YET, but we Ravens fans know that he is and its only a matter of time before THAT is the consenus. Ed Reed is a BallHawk, a Nightmare, a BEAST.

[POE]

[quote name='bengaaaaals1688' post='121500' date='Jan 6 2009, 10:45 PM']Return skills don't make someone a great safety, they make them a versatile player. Reggie Bush is a great return man, but he is a garbage RB. Return skills are moot in this discussion.

Ronnie Lott could play the pass about as well as Reed, he just made hits more often than picking the ball off. He showed on numerous occasions that he can be a ball hawk like the rest of the "coverage" safeties, but what Lott did that Reed can't, is scare WRs to the point that they flat refused to run routes in the middle of the field against him. QBs didn't want to test him for 2 reason, they didn't want to kill their WRs and didn't want to take the chance that maybe Lott would actually just take the ball with him. After a pick it's no contest, but I'd take Lott in a heartbeat, with Reed soon after.

32Zach... I said Polamalu isn't as good as Reed, so I'm confused about what your post is supposed to tell me.[/quote]

WR's don't need to be scared of Reed coming across the middle with big hits as neither does Reed, Ray Lewis does that for everyone on our team. Just ask Kellen Winslow or maybe even your boy Housh..lol.

[H8R]

I call Ed Reed "The Natural"