[News] Eisenberg: New Changes Won't Faze Joe Flacco In The Least

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Come day, go day for Joe. Why the media and even some of the players in the NFL can not see what we see is beyond comprehension. This man is a prize and I can not wait to see him in action come September. Go Ravens.

and into January and hopfully February.... Go Ravens #1

[joeyclark3994]

When all is said and done,Flacco is gone to be one of the top Qb's in the history of the game!

[The Mom Gene]

I.M.H.O. Flacco should have 3 Super Bowl appearances as of right now im just saying = 1. the Lee Evans drop. 2. the super Bowl he has a ring for and 3. Last season I really believe we would have rolled the Colts if we could have held onto 1 of the 2 14 point leads Flacco gave us against the Patriots.  Luck might just be more like Manning than people are willing to admit great in the regular season and mediocre at best in the post season.

Yup, I agree 100%

[Ravensfan23]

I.M.H.O. Flacco should have 3 Super Bowl appearances as of right now im just saying = 1. the Lee Evans drop. 2. the super Bowl he has a ring for and 3. Last season I really believe we would have rolled the Colts if we could have held onto 1 of the 2 14 point leads Flacco gave us against the Patriots.  Luck might just be more like Manning than people are willing to admit great in the regular season and mediocre at best in the post season.

Yup, I agree 100%

Call me optimistic or a homer or whatever you want but i say it should have been 4 Super Bowl appearances. I agree 100% with what you said but I'll also add 2010 to the mix.

No doubt in my mind the Ravens beat the Steelers if Boldin catches that ball for a TD that the Ravens win. I know the way the game played out would suggest that the Ravens still would have needed at FG just for overtime even if Boldin scores. However watching the game, no doubt the Steelers had a moment of relief once that Webb TD return was called back and the Ravens had to settle for a FG in that drive. The way that game was going the Ravens had took the Steelers best shot and to go up 4 at that moment in the game, no doubt all the momentum would have been on our side. Then to play Sanchez and the Jets at M&T Bank for the Championship would have been a walk in the part to the Super Bowl.

You put the proper talent around Flacco and he'll force people to view him as one of the best because he'll win more rings then Brady imo.

[hen826957]

I love Joe and I'm glad he's our QB all he do is wins and they put Romo ahead of him what a joke. If they think stats are important Romo has less yards than Joe but just more touchdowns but due to better weapons. It makes me feel like punching everybody in the mouth who don't give credit he deserves especially NBC Sports they don't give no credit of any of his success. Those comments about Joe makes me sick. They will respect Joe soon enough when he gets his second ring.

[Purple Dawg 96]

I know I've been hard on Joe "Iron Man" Flacco for the pats game BUT he is in my FB page! He can link up with any WR with that arm strength but the plays gotta get better to accommodate all that power and he needs to find a spot on the field to release the ball because sometimes he throws to late and tries to sling it and secondaries are hip to his strength as well so double moves will be needed BIG TIME! WE GOIN BACK TO THE AF CHAMPIONSHIP so get a bigger trophy case in the castle!

[huntrgathrr]

Joe is money. We are so very lucky to have him as our QB. This year he has a great offensive line and a lot of talent with which to work. Trestman and Joe will make a great team. And the Ravens have a very good defense now that the secondary has been bolstered by FAs and guys getting healthy. On paper they look as good as any team in the AFC. Beating the Ravens will be a tough task for any team they face.

[balfan23]

Call me optimistic or a homer or whatever you want but i say it should have been 4 Super Bowl appearances. I agree 100% with what you said but I'll also add 2010 to the mix.

No doubt in my mind the Ravens beat the Steelers if Boldin catches that ball for a TD that the Ravens win. I know the way the game played out would suggest that the Ravens still would have needed at FG just for overtime even if Boldin scores. However watching the game, no doubt the Steelers had a moment of relief once that Webb TD return was called back and the Ravens had to settle for a FG in that drive. The way that game was going the Ravens had took the Steelers best shot and to go up 4 at that moment in the game, no doubt all the momentum would have been on our side. Then to play Sanchez and the Jets at M&T Bank for the Championship would have been a walk in the part to the Super Bowl.

You put the proper talent around Flacco and he'll force people to view him as one of the best because he'll win more rings then Brady imo.

 

Also - the play that killed us was a 3rd and long on our side of the field. Webb got caught up and I think our mindset was that the Steelers would want to at least get in FG range and instead, they went deep. Had we held a 4 point lead, we would have known they'd need to get to the end zone. Not getting a TD on that possession changed the entire complexion of the game. 

[ellicottraven]

Joe is special, but Rodgers is the best in the biz. Not only that, he's a cool/fair play dude as well. Now take Brady, as phenomenal of a football player as he is, I would take any other NFL QB over him.

I can't stand his "morals", the way he always whines, the way he (used to) always get away with shady stuff... list goes on but I don't feel like ranting today.

I just hope his suspension stays how it is, that the Patriots have a down year and that Brady's supposed HOF legacy has been thoroughly tainted.

Go Ravens!

Perceived best in the business, but I would still take Joe when a game is on the line. Rodgers is great, don't get me wrong, but he also has great weapons to throw to, but then you couldn't go wrong with him either. But, when it comes right down to it, I like Joe as our QB.

[Ravensfan23]

Also - the play that killed us was a 3rd and long on our side of the field. Webb got caught up and I think our mindset was that the Steelers would want to at least get in FG range and instead, they went deep. Had we held a 4 point lead, we would have known they'd need to get to the end zone. Not getting a TD on that possession changed the entire complexion of the game.

Right that changes the entire mindset and game flow of each team. Now the Ravens defense is back to playing with the same swagger they played with early in the game. If i remember correctly all 17 second half points by the Steelers were results from short field turnovers. That mishap by Webb seemed the only way they were able to move the ball. So the Ravens defense up by 4 points at that moment I'll take it.

So in 7 NFL seasons Flacco has made the playoffs 6 times and we could legitimately say the only thing that has stopped him from reaching the Super Bowl in all six playoff appearances was, being a rookie, having a bum hip, two dropped passes and a let down by the defense. Now let me say i don't think that we had enough talent on offense to beat the Colts in 2009 even with a healthy Flacco, but we did have a chance to beat them in the final minutes of the game during the regular season so who knows. But Flacco has had an tremendous amount of success especially with the limited amount of talent he's been surrounded by.

[JetLife94]

We are a legitimate threat to the entire NFL. I laugh when nfl network said that the AFC is wide open for the colts to the super bowl. Well see. Kings of the AFCN

[Joey Flac]

imagine how good he will be once we settle down! he has been waiting for this West Coast system that allows him to post some numbers... not INSANE numbers but we will win with Flacco's arm over the running game.

[polynesian15]

Perceived best in the business, but I would still take Joe when a game is on the line. Rodgers is great, don't get me wrong, but he also has great weapons to throw to, but then you couldn't go wrong with him either. But, when it comes right down to it, I like Joe as our QB.

Just to be sure, I wasn't bashing Joe in any way. And you're right, Rodgers has great targets around him. But still every time I watch Rodgers play, I'm just amazed at almost everything he does: great accuracy, strong arm (balls come out like bullets - looks like the fastest thrower/most velocity on TV imo), great vision, hardly ever makes mistakes, good on his feet as well...

January Joe is a beast all his own, if he could begin showing more of that 'urgency/decisiveness' (for lack of better words) in the regular season - M&T would perennially be the last stop for AFC contenders before the Super Bowl. I'm wildly excited to see what Trestman/Mornhinweg can accomplish together with Joe this year! 

[Ugly Ball]

I would love to see Joe drop about six touchdown passes on the Broncos to open up the season ! Then put his foot on the gas and not slow down until he's standing on the podium accepting his next new car in February!

Joe Flacco = 2nd time Superbowl MVP....

[stampedehero]

Joe gets the job done when its gotta get done.   The two games I remember that proove to me he does his job well are the 011 AFC against NE and last years AFC playoff game against the same team. We really lost those impact games on the shoulders of Evans and Cardiff and the secondary last season.   

[ravenwildman]

Joe cool's got this......GO RAVENS!

[Puntit]

First, I don't really understand the point of this article. Yes Flacco has dealt with a lot of changes. But changes can always be for the better or worse. We've made changes in the past that made this team worse -- deciding Gino was an adequate replacement for Birk jumps to mind. Letting Zorn go as QB coach also seemed to have negative effects on Flacco. Bringing in Kubiak was a big positive. Getting rid of Cam Cameron go was a big positive. Will the current set of changes make the team better or worse? Hard to predict, but on paper they seem like moves in the right direction.

Second, what's the point of worrying if Flacco is "Elite". I'd rather he never get the recognition he deserves and keeps winning. Let teams like Atlanta and San Diego keep talking about how their QB ought to be considered among the top QBs despite a lack of post season accomplishments. Let Miami and Cincinatti and Dallas pay their QBs high salaries even though they have yet to win anything. I'll take being snubbed but winning over that any day. At the end of the day after their careers are over nobody is going to pretend a Rivers, a Ryan, a Dalton or a Tanenhill had the better career. They'll likely look at Peyton as the best QB of his generation, Brady great but with an asterisk, and everyone else is just going to be various degrees of an honorable mention. So really what's the difference?

[ellicottraven]

Just to be sure, I wasn't bashing Joe in any way. And you're right, Rodgers has great targets around him. But still every time I watch Rodgers play, I'm just amazed at almost everything he does: great accuracy, strong arm (balls come out like bullets - looks like the fastest thrower/most velocity on TV imo), great vision, hardly ever makes mistakes, good on his feet as well...

January Joe is a beast all his own, if he could begin showing more of that 'urgency/decisiveness' (for lack of better words) in the regular season - M&T would perennially be the last stop for AFC contenders before the Super Bowl. I'm wildly excited to see what Trestman/Mornhinweg can accomplish together with Joe this year! 

Let me ask you this: How many times have you seen Rodgers throw the ball away? He would rather take a sack than have an incompletion. That is stat padding in my opinion. Joe doesn't do that, because he doesn't care too much about stats but cares only about winning games. Just saying....

[NCMan]

Sorry, John, but QB's don't have "winning records". You may have football confused w/baseball. I usually agree w/most of your opinions and you have more knowledge and writing skills in your pinkie than the "others" on here. I imagine you'd never get a teammate of Average Joe's to say it publicly, but they have to get sick and tired of hearing about "unflappable" Joe having all his winning records. A real joke. There is a reason that, outside of us Ravens fans, most other people consistently rank Average Joe as just that......average. I'm not here to bash our QB at all. I just see things as they are. I'm a huge Ravens fan.....just not a Flacco worshipper. I honestly feel that he should be ranked around #10-12 in starting NFL QB's. Maybe w/his new weapons, he can and will be a bit more consistent. I think he may, if some key players remain healthy.

[JamesA119]

There isn't any QB in the NFL that I would take over Flacco.

[JamesA119]

NCMan Flacco may not show consistency in the regular season, however he is arguably the best big game QB playing today.

[bozo]

tom brady should be kicked out of the nfl. hes a idiot,cheated to beat the ravens in thr playoffs than tells john harbaugh he should read the rules.

[stixfix69]

We have the size and speed at the WR position where we can play the tall game, or short and quick one......

[RavensFanMania]

But did we ever shine in Pittsburgh. Don't forget about that. Was that ever a great win to savor for years to come. Beating them at home in the playoffs. 

It was absolutely beautiful. 

[RavensBaltimore]

Sorry, John, but QB's don't have "winning records". You may have football confused w/baseball. I usually agree w/most of your opinions and you have more knowledge and writing skills in your pinkie than the "others" on here. I imagine you'd never get a teammate of Average Joe's to say it publicly, but they have to get sick and tired of hearing about "unflappable" Joe having all his winning records. A real joke. There is a reason that, outside of us Ravens fans, most other people consistently rank Average Joe as just that......average. I'm not here to bash our QB at all. I just see things as they are. I'm a huge Ravens fan.....just not a Flacco worshipper. I honestly feel that he should be ranked around #10-12 in starting NFL QB's. Maybe w/his new weapons, he can and will be a bit more consistent. I think he may, if some key players remain healthy.

Average qbs don't win in the playoffs on a yearly basis, nor do they come close, especially in today's NFL, which revolves around the qb more than ever. Average qb's don't have an NFL best(by far) 24 TDs and 4ints in the postseason since 2010. Average qbs don't run a successful passing game with a bunch of undrafted receivers and aging, past their prime, veterans to throw to. Average qb's don't set all kinds of NFL records for total wins, playoff wins, and playoff stats, especially without the weapons to throw to that all the other "elite" qbs have. Calling someone as talented and accomplished as Joe "average" is a joke. The only thing average about Joe are his fantasy stats, which is what most people go by these days. Most analysts that study film and understand the Ravens' offense think he is one of the best. 

[TXRavensFan]

Sorry, John, but QB's don't have "winning records". You may have football confused w/baseball. I usually agree w/most of your opinions and you have more knowledge and writing skills in your pinkie than the "others" on here. I imagine you'd never get a teammate of Average Joe's to say it publicly, but they have to get sick and tired of hearing about "unflappable" Joe having all his winning records. A real joke. There is a reason that, outside of us Ravens fans, most other people consistently rank Average Joe as just that......average. I'm not here to bash our QB at all. I just see things as they are. I'm a huge Ravens fan.....just not a Flacco worshipper. I honestly feel that he should be ranked around #10-12 in starting NFL QB's. Maybe w/his new weapons, he can and will be a bit more consistent. I think he may, if some key players remain healthy.

 

I'm sure Kyle Boller, Stoney Case, Anthony Wright, et al. will be relieved to know that their win-loss records are not the result of their play, but rather because the entire team was mediocre to poor all those years.

[Adamame]

Sorry, John, but QB's don't have "winning records". You may have football confused w/baseball. I usually agree w/most of your opinions and you have more knowledge and writing skills in your pinkie than the "others" on here. I imagine you'd never get a teammate of Average Joe's to say it publicly, but they have to get sick and tired of hearing about "unflappable" Joe having all his winning records. A real joke. There is a reason that, outside of us Ravens fans, most other people consistently rank Average Joe as just that......average. I'm not here to bash our QB at all. I just see things as they are. I'm a huge Ravens fan.....just not a Flacco worshipper. I honestly feel that he should be ranked around #10-12 in starting NFL QB's. Maybe w/his new weapons, he can and will be a bit more consistent. I think he may, if some key players remain healthy.

Ranking him at 10-12? I would love to hear who's ahead of him.

Ranking him in the playoffs? #1. Prove me wrong.

[polynesian15]

Let me ask you this: How many times have you seen Rodgers throw the ball away? He would rather take a sack than have an incompletion. That is stat padding in my opinion. Joe doesn't do that, because he doesn't care too much about stats but cares only about winning games. Just saying....

That's probably a good point, I mainly just watch the Ravens. I remember a time when Flacco, under great pressure, would try to make stuff happen instead of throwing it out of bounds. This often resulted in INTs.

This may be a problem of the past though...

[The Mom Gene]

Ranking him at 10-12? I would love to hear who's ahead of him.

Ranking him in the playoffs? #1. Prove me wrong.

Ahead of him in one poll was "Alex Smith"....  I mean, REALLY?

[The Mom Gene]

That's probably a good point, I mainly just watch the Ravens. I remember a time when Flacco, under great pressure, would try to make stuff happen instead of throwing it out of bounds. This often resulted in INTs.

This may be a problem of the past though...

My husband used to say that about Flacco...  "Why does he hold onto the ball and take that sack.  He should just throw it away"...  Well this is why!  I've told him the same thing... It counts as an incompletion.