[News] Late For Work 5/28: Why Joe Flacco Will Break Into Elite QB Club Under Marc Trestman

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Campanaro suffers tear. Can Webb or Carter return kicks? Forsett makes top 100. Ravens’ scary edge rushers.

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[BMORE = BEASTING]

I rather have Elite Joe on the team than any other QB.

[PolishRifle]

I hope this doesn't mean, that Trestman will be gone after 1 season. Flacco's coaching tree grows fast.

 

Should the Ravens allow Webb to return kicks? NO!!! That would be insane, after all the injuries our secondary went through last year.

 

Haloti Ngata in a non-Raven uniform. Awful. Why are guys posting this? It hurts so bad.

Edited May 28, 2015 by PolishRifle

[Nick04263]

You feel bad for Camp but he does have to stay healthy before they can count on him. Don't need one of your 53 getting hurt and riding the bench when another player could be filling that spot in a productive manner. And of course having a crowded WR competition is good for the Ravens and bad for Camp.

[RAVENSNAYSHUN]

Kubiak did a great job last year with this offense but after reading this article, it seems we left a lot of plays on the field... 23rd in the league in play-action pass attempts and we had a top 5 running back? One of two teams that ran more than we passed when the box was loaded? One of the best in the league at screen passes but was 21st in attempts? Seems like we could've been a lot better.. I'm talking Super Bowl winning better. Not sure if the Ravens are big on analytics but if they aren't, they need to start.

[Nick04263]

I wonder how much Cutler hurt that "BDR".

[Bleedpurple&black52]

I believe we'll be successful as an offense under Trestman & that he's better than Kubiak, they don't call him the "QB whisperer" for nothing. My only hope is that we can keep Trestman as our OC for years to come.

[salamander]

Trestman should be able to reinforce his mystique as the QB Whisperer this season. Joe and crew have plenty of talent for Trestman to guide, creating a truly explosive and dangerous offense that Baltimore has craved to see on the field for decades. This is the year to make it happen.

[jpdsanti]

Haloti in BLUE made my stomach turn a bit. I felt a little nauseated and sad at the same time.

[trevorsteadman]

I hope this doesn't mean, that Trestman will be gone after 1 season. Flacco's coaching tree grows fast.

 

Should the Ravens allow Webb to return kicks? NO!!! That would be insane, after all the injuries our secondary went through last year.

 

Haloti Ngata in a non-Raven uniform. Awful. Why are guys posting this? It hurts so bad.

Trestman signed a 3 year deal so he is staying in purple if he either replicates last years' success or builds on it. 

[salamander]

Congrats Justin on making the top 100. Amazing success story of perseverance. You deserve every ounce of recognition by your peers. I am proud you are a Raven but you are also admired by fans and players alike across the nation. Wishing you another successful season to come.

[HoldingCall]

The first day! It sounds like Ccmpanaro may be working with leg weights and/or other leg strengthening exercises. The downside is lost flexibility. My advice is to adapt to stretching and running only. Example: Steep upward incline and downhill runs can sub for squats, leg curls and leg extensions while retaining the muscle's ability to contract and expand at a somewhat rapid rate.

[Bruce_Almty]

The writers on this site kill me. "If Trestman can work wonders with Jay Cutler, then it stands to reason that he can do a whole lot more with Flacco." First, Trestman was fired because Cutler was terrible last year and he (Cuter) basically gave up on the team. Trestman didn't work any wonders there. Second, even if (and that's a HUGE if) he worked wonders, what "whole lot more" does he have to do with Flacco? Work miracles? I think not. Writers here need to read what they write; that sentence made NO sence at all.

Sorry for my rant. lol

[HoldingCall]

The team will keep "winning" as its goal above the need to prove Joe is elite. A win is the goal by any means.

[rmcjacket23]

Trestman signed a 3 year deal so he is staying in purple if he either replicates last years' success or builds on it. 

The length of the contract is irrelevant. Kubiak didn't sign a one year deal, and he left.

 

I don't think Trestman gets a HC gig that fast, regardless of his success, but if a HC opportunity opens up, expect him to pursue it if they are interested in him.

[budman]

Even though they say he will be back for Training Camp, this hurts his changes big time IMO. I feel bad for him but luckily we do have a lot of talent to challenge for a spot. It opens the door and gives the other guys a better chance of making the squad. Campanaro wasn't assured a spot to begin with, but his chances just took a dive.

Edited May 28, 2015 by budman

[AsianRice]

Campanaro is right on the edge of injury prone; he needs to strength his body to avoid some unnecessary injuries. Football is brutal so he is better to get prepared...stay healthy Camp....

[Bohica5]

Again looking at the schedule and with Trestman this year i really......Really don't see us losing any game this year.......

[rmcjacket23]

The writers on this site kill me. "If Trestman can work wonders with Jay Cutler, then it stands to reason that he can do a whole lot more with Flacco." First, Trestman was fired because Cutler was terrible last year and he (Cuter) basically gave up on the team. Trestman didn't work any wonders there. Second, even if (and that's a HUGE if) he worked wonders, what "whole lot more" does he have to do with Flacco? Work miracles? I think not. Writers here need to read what they write; that sentence made NO sence at all. Sorry for my rant. lol

Wouldn't go that far.

 

Just so we are clear, Cutler set career highs in completion percentage, yards/season, and TDs/season under Trestman. And compared to his prior four years in Chicago with a different HC/OC, Cutler's INTs went up less than 1 INT a season. He averaged 18 INTs per season in his first four years in Chicago, and 18.5 under Trestman. Mostly no difference.

 

He averaged nearly 70 more pass attempts under Trestman per season than under Lovie Smith, and he basically threw the same amount of INTs.

 

I'm not arguing that Jay Cutler is a great QB, because he isn't. I'm saying thinking Trestman got fired because Cutler regressed is inaccurate.

[rmcjacket23]

Again looking at the schedule and with Trestman this year i really......Really don't see us losing any game this year.......

Be prepared to be disappointed then... probably at least 2-3 times.

[GO_Ravens]

You can not ignore the success this Carter kid had in college just because it was a small school I think this kid turns in to a slot machine and a return specialist.

[The Mom Gene]

The writers on this site kill me. "If Trestman can work wonders with Jay Cutler, then it stands to reason that he can do a whole lot more with Flacco." First, Trestman was fired because Cutler was terrible last year and he (Cuter) basically gave up on the team. Trestman didn't work any wonders there. Second, even if (and that's a HUGE if) he worked wonders, what "whole lot more" does he have to do with Flacco? Work miracles? I think not. Writers here need to read what they write; that sentence made NO sence at all. Sorry for my rant. lol

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[Puntit]

While Campanaro is rehabbing that quad tear are the ravens allowed to resign DePriest or other FA?

[Godfather A]

It's interesting in how there is so much focus on stats when what is more important is wins. Joe has taken us to the playoffs every year but one (and I personally think the issue there was the knee injury in Detroit. He clearly did not throw the same those last two games. Watch him float a pass to Torrey at the beginning of the New England game when no one was within 15 yards but had time to get there). He has the most road playoff wins in history. At 10 playoff wins he is in the top ten playoff winning quarterbacks of all time. His 2012 performance in the playoffs was stellar. But he hasn't thrown for 4000 yards (only 3986). Give me a break.

[rmcjacket23]

It's interesting in how there is so much focus on stats when what is more important is wins. Joe has taken us to the playoffs every year but one (and I personally think the issue there was the knee injury in Detroit. He clearly did not throw the same those last two games. Watch him float a pass to Torrey at the beginning of the New England game when no one was within 15 yards but had time to get there). He has the most road playoff wins in history. At 10 playoff wins he is in the top ten playoff winning quarterbacks of all time. His 2012 performance in the playoffs was stellar. But he hasn't thrown for 4000 yards (only 3986). Give me a break.

Lifelong argument.

 

Are wins a team achievement or an individual achievement? Its kind of hard to just assigning wins to an individual, regardless of position, in arguably the biggest team sport in the world.

 

In general, I'd sum it up like this... the great of the great QBs do both. They win AND they put up great statistics (at least in the context of their era). Fans of QBs with great stats and less wins tend to focus on stats, and fans of QBs with more wins and less stats tend to focus on wins.

 

From a fan perspective, most people are interested in wins, because you root for a team, not an individual player. But what matters the most to fans oftentimes doesn't matter the most to players, talent evaluators, etc.

[Saxxin]

Joe get's little respect because he's not a top fantasy football player and won't win you many fantasy football games.

[alexbayrobin]

I rather have Elite Joe on the team than any other QB.

Ditto. Joe is a winner and the team depends on his ability to win inportant games.

[markbuilds]

No return duties for Webbie. Keep him healthy and on defense.

[runcontrol]

While Campanaro is rehabbing that quad tear are the ravens allowed to resign DePriest or other FA?

 

I believe the only way Camp isn't counting against the 90 man roster is by being put on the PUP list, but also think, at this point in the offseason he would have to clear waiver before the team could do that.  There is an unwritten rule that a team won't go after a player that is going on the PUP list, but a couple of years ago the Pats grabbed up the Giants tight end like that. 

[Rat]

As to Flacco being elite......WHO CARES AS LONG HE HE CONTINUES TO BE A WINNER....