Who doesn't make the team this year?

[redrum52]

Torrey Smith, Haloti Ngata, Pernell McPhee...

In all seriousness, I would say Jah Reid, DeAngelo Tyson, Albert McClellan, Asa Jackson, and Brynden Trawick are the "major" names squarely on the bubble.

Except for Asa, looks right. Between being a viable ST option and a corner who can walk, I don't see the team cutting him, especially after last seasons string of injuries.

[omar586]

if Asa Glass can't stay healthy i wont be surprised if gets cut, jah is good as gone, roster spot are valuable, if u r not progressing u r out. elam needs a good camp or he'll b a former raven.

[redlobster]

This was not listed to indicate starters and backups.

 

Offense - 24

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QB -  Flacco, Schaub

RB -  Forsett, Allen, Talifero 

FB -  Juice

WR - SSS, Perriman, Camp, Carter, Waller, Brown, Aiken

TE - Williams, Gilmore, Boyle

T - Monroe , Wagner, Hurst

G - Yanda, KO, Myers, Urschel

C - Zuttah, 

 

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Defense - 26

 

DL - Jernigan, B Williams, Urban, Tyson, Davis, Canty, KLM, Bilukidi

ILB - Brown, D Smith, Mosley, McClellan

OLB - Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Z Smith

CB - Webb, Walker, J Smith, Arrington, Melvin, Jackson

S - Hill, Elam, K Lewis, Brooks,

 

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Specialists - 3

 

K - Tucker

P - Koch

LS - Cox

 

Julian Wilson - IR

Dennis Pitta - IR

 

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I could see Asa or melvin booted to keep an extra safety (Levine) if Brooks is not ready, and carter could take Asa's return position.

 

I see Lawrence Guy and Bilukidi as pick 1 , so guy could easily be in his spot.

Edited May 26, 2015 by redlobster

[codizzle]

Asa hasn't played well. He hasn't been on the field? I don't think he is a sure thing at all.

Pretty good on ST for sure and he's done enough to warrant a spot

[rmw10]

Except for Asa, looks right. Between being a viable ST option and a corner who can walk, I don't see the team cutting him, especially after last seasons string of injuries.

 

I think he's squarely on the bubble, but he's between like roster spot 51 and 55 for me.

 

He's got a tough battle in front of him.  Jimmy, Webb, Arrington, and Walker are locks barring injury.  Melvin likely has the leg up on Asa due to his play last year and the future ahead of him.  Then, the question becomes 5 or 6 CB.  I opted to go 5, because I think the team might find value in the fact that that Levine and Elam can step up and play CB in emergency situations.

 

I think it's likely that he could make the team, but I also think it's likely that he couldn't.

[Edgar]

Pretty good on ST for sure and he's done enough to warrant a spot

he won't be tenured in. He will have to prove he can make a difference in coverage. A fourth year player who plays "pretty good" special teams and has never been on the field more than seven games doesn't appear a necessity and is replaceable.

[Sami84]

i am not a fan of asa jackson..i don't know why he's hyped up or been hyped up..hes a poor corner in my opinion with good return skills on ST

[sflegend89]

 

I could see Asa or melvin booted to keep an extra safety (Levine) if Brooks is not ready, and carter could take Asa's return position.

 

I see Lawrence Guy and Bilukidi as pick 1 , so guy could easily be in his spot.

 

 

Not a chance. Melvin was solid last year after getting thrown right into the deep end, the coaching staff thinks highly of him and sees his potential. Guys like Chykie and Franks who have been in the league for years couldn't play at the level Melvin did for us coming off a practice squad. 

[Guest]

Not a chance. Melvin was solid last year after getting thrown right into the deep end, the coaching staff thinks highly of him and sees his potential. Guys like Chykie and Franks who have been in the league for years couldn't play at the level Melvin did for us coming off a practice squad. 

 

Melba Toast........hopefully

[redrum52]

I think he's squarely on the bubble, but he's between like roster spot 51 and 55 for me.

He's got a tough battle in front of him. Jimmy, Webb, Arrington, and Walker are locks barring injury. Melvin likely has the leg up on Asa due to his play last year and the future ahead of him. Then, the question becomes 5 or 6 CB. I opted to go 5, because I think the team might find value in the fact that that Levine and Elam can step up and play CB in emergency situations.

I think it's likely that he could make the team, but I also think it's likely that he couldn't.

I think we keep 6, one of the reasons I think he makes it, as of now. Pretty sure someone is added during TC cuts though.

Jimmy, Webb, Arrington, Melvin, Tray and Asa.

[FlackAttack]

With all this "Elam sucks, crucify him talk," don't be surprised if Elam improves. You really don't know how good you really are until you completely failed. It's about picking yourself up and moving forward. Hopefully, all this lights a fire under a player who I thought was pretty talented coming out of college. If Elam can put some time in the film room and fix up his techniques a little bit, he could make a huge leap as a player. 

he completely failed last season..

[757RavensFan]

 

This was not listed to indicate starters and backups.

 

Offense - 24

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QB -  Flacco, Schaub

RB -  Forsett, Allen, Talifero 

FB -  Juice

WR - SSS, Perriman, Camp, Carter, Waller, Brown, Aiken

TE - Williams, Gilmore, Boyle

T - Monroe , Wagner, Hurst

G - Yanda, KO, Myers, Urschel

C - Zuttah, 

 

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Defense - 26

 

DL - Jernigan, B Williams, Urban, Tyson, Davis, Canty, KLM, Bilukidi

ILB - Brown, D Smith, Mosley, McClellan

OLB - Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Z Smith

CB - Webb, Walker, J Smith, Arrington, Melvin, Jackson

S - Hill, Elam, K Lewis, Brooks,

 

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Specialists - 3

 

K - Tucker

P - Koch

LS - Cox

 

Julian Wilson - IR

Dennis Pitta - IR

 

------------------------------------

 

I could see Asa or melvin booted to keep an extra safety (Levine) if Brooks is not ready, and carter could take Asa's return position.

 

I see Lawrence Guy and Bilukidi as pick 1 , so guy could easily be in his spot.

 

 

It was already stated that Brooks will start the season on the PUP list. 

[GrimCoconut]

Not sure why people are counting Tramain Jacobs out in terms of CB corps.

[ellicottraven]

Not sure why people are counting Tramain Jacobs out in terms of CB corps.

Out of sight (news) so out of mind perhaps?

[GrimCoconut]

Out of sight (news) so out of mind perhaps?

Yeah I suppose. I think Jacobs is a real sleeper at this point. He looked really promising last year, needed development and refinement, and may very well have it now. I'm kinda optimistic about him.

[omar586]

 

This was not listed to indicate starters and backups.

 

Offense - 24

---------------------------

QB -  Flacco, Schaub

RB -  Forsett, Allen, Talifero 

FB -  Juice

WR - SSS, Perriman, Camp, Carter, Waller, Brown, Aiken

TE - Williams, Gilmore, Boyle

T - Monroe , Wagner, Hurst

G - Yanda, KO, Myers, Urschel

C - Zuttah, 

 

---------------------------

Defense - 26

 

DL - Jernigan, B Williams, Urban, Tyson, Davis, Canty, KLM, Bilukidi

ILB - Brown, D Smith, Mosley, McClellan

OLB - Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Z Smith

CB - Webb, Walker, J Smith, Arrington, Melvin, Jackson

S - Hill, Elam, K Lewis, Brooks,

 

--------------------------------------

 

Specialists - 3

 

K - Tucker

P - Koch

LS - Cox

 

Julian Wilson - IR

Dennis Pitta - IR

 

------------------------------------

 

I could see Asa or melvin booted to keep an extra safety (Levine) if Brooks is not ready, and carter could take Asa's return position.

 

I see Lawrence Guy and Bilukidi as pick 1 , so guy could easily be in his spot.

 

camp will b on IR or PUP, canty will b cut for a deep and young DL GUY was good last year i dont see him get cut,  

asa glass is well fragile as a glass, he might let go for more tough DBs, if matt lame or elam does't get his show up in TC he will b out the door, jah is gone, jensen is gone, 

Edited May 28, 2015 by omar586

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

This was not listed to indicate starters and backups.

Offense - 24

---------------------------

QB - Flacco, Schaub

RB - Forsett, Allen, Talifero

FB - Juice

WR - SSS, Perriman, Camp, Carter, Waller, Brown, Aiken

TE - Williams, Gilmore, Boyle

T - Monroe , Wagner, Hurst

G - Yanda, KO, Myers, Urschel

C - Zuttah,

---------------------------

Defense - 26

DL - Jernigan, B Williams, Urban, Tyson, Davis, Canty, KLM, Bilukidi

ILB - Brown, D Smith, Mosley, McClellan

OLB - Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Z Smith

CB - Webb, Walker, J Smith, Arrington, Melvin, Jackson

S - Hill, Elam, K Lewis, Brooks,

--------------------------------------

Specialists - 3

K - Tucker

P - Koch

LS - Cox

Julian Wilson - IR

Dennis Pitta - IR

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I could see Asa or melvin booted to keep an extra safety (Levine) if Brooks is not ready, and carter could take Asa's return position.

I see Lawrence Guy and Bilukidi as pick 1 , so guy could easily be in his spot.

I like your list but I think Levine is a notable miss. They just re-upped on a contract for him and he's got the versatility to play cb and safety that we covet.

Pretty sure it's a guarantee that Brooks isn't available to start the season since everything I've read has mentioned it's hopeful that he can return at some point during the season which makes me feel that there's not shot he's ready at the beginning. So you can easily swap levine in there for Brooks.

The other person I think that makes the team that you don't have listed is Orr. The team seems to really covet him as an up and coming contributor on defense and excels in special teams play. I think he either makes the team over McClellan (even though I really like him, he's played well even as a starter at times, contributes on ST and has versatility to play OLB if needed).

The other possibility is that we take one less WR. I love everything I've heard about Carter so far and I'd like to see him get a shot but with Trestmans offense utilizing TE's, FB's and RBs so much in the passing game I just don't think there will be enough targets to go around to justify taking 7 WR's.

I think Carter winds up as a guy who gets a mysterious injury at the end of the preseason and goes on IR or they stash him on the PS for the year. Idk that he's that much of a risk to be claimed by someone else since they'd have to place him on the active roster to sign him.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

camp will b on IR or PUP, canty will b cut for a deep and young DL GUY was good last year i dont see him get cut,

asa glass is well fragile as a glass, he might let go for more tough DBs, if matt lame or elam does't get his show up in TC he will b out the door, jah is gone, jensen is gone,

Elam WILL NOT be cut. He costs more to get rid of than to keep and he's a 1st rd draft pick. They won't give up on him after 1 terrible year. He'll get one more year to improve.

Canty I've said as well could be a possible cut if our young guys really step up, but I think ultimately he's kept since he's the only real veteran presence on the d-line. A few guys would really have to play lights out to justify cutting Canty.

Camp I'll wait to comment on until we see how serious the injury is. I agree both are options though at this point

And yes Asa Jackson has been injury prone but has played well when available. If he's healthy he'll make the team. Also a top candidate as a returner.

Every player has the potential to get injured - last year made that clear. But projecting it to happen and acting as if it's a foregone conclusion worthless.

Contribute something to the conversation with player evaluation and legitimate reasons as to why one player will make it over another. Operate under the same assumptions we all have to - if a player is currently healthy then his ability to make the team will be determined by his play and what he contributes to the team.

Edited May 28, 2015 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[Guest Omerta]

I am not sure why Asa is on the roster at the present anyway. I mean I have not hate or not throwing shade, I just don't see his purpose. I remember last year all the talk of how he was going to come back and unify the secondary. The 19 seconds he did play I thought Melvin was better anyway. There is also more to like such as the build of Melvin and his coverage ability to seem better than Asa's already.

 

Then when thinking about who we have at corner and who I would like to see make it I think to me after Smith, Webb, Arrington, Walker, and Melvin it is going to come down to Chris Greenwood and Trumain Jaconbs. I like both guys but I would have to with Greenwood for no other reason than potential. I understand the notion that you want someone who can play but would we really be counting on him anyway as the 6th CB. I think he can be a very solid contributor to ST's as well.

With Greenwood you are getting a H/W/S guy who is actually very similar to Walker. He has 4.4 speed and is 6'1 and a good frame so I think that if we keep 6 CB's he could make a legitimate case off of potential because being honest why are we keeping the 6th CB for if not for potential anyway ?

 

As it pertain to Jackson I while he is young he cant stay healthy and has not shown much given opportunity plus the suspensions that he has had. I do not see why he is any more deserving than a guy like Greenwood or Jacobs because at this moment all anyone can talk about is what he COULD do just like anybody else on the roster outside of the top 5 at CB in my opinion.
 

[izvoodoo]

I think he's squarely on the bubble, but he's between like roster spot 51 and 55 for me.

 

He's got a tough battle in front of him.  Jimmy, Webb, Arrington, and Walker are locks barring injury.  Melvin likely has the leg up on Asa due to his play last year and the future ahead of him.  Then, the question becomes 5 or 6 CB.  I opted to go 5, because I think the team might find value in the fact that that Levine and Elam can step up and play CB in emergency situations.

 

I think it's likely that he could make the team, but I also think it's likely that he couldn't.

Truly a lot of safeties are better than 4th and 5th corners. I can't think of a lot of years where the 3rd safety wasn't a better DB than the 5th corner.,  

[Static]

Not sure why people are counting Tramain Jacobs out in terms of CB corps.

 

or Levine.

[GrimCoconut]

or Levine.

Yeah I'll be surprised if he doesn't make the cut.

[Wildabeast88]

I think Camp is done getting hurt again and with Smith calling Carter a young Randall Cobb I think Camp is gone