[News] Joe Flacco, Marc Trestman Off To Great Start

[vinnystp]

What I don't understand from all the "Analysts" is all the hate that Joe gets. I mean he has had Cam Cameron, Jim Caldwell, Gary Kubiak, and now Jim Trestman. Mind you that Jim Caldwell didn't implement his own new system, and just continued doing more of what Cam did to keep Joe fresh. Kubiak implemented the West Coast offense, and Trestman is only doing more of what Kubiak transitioned our offense to. Yet, all the hate for Joe. Not that I should really care what they say, it's just straight disrespect that a Super Bowl winning QB, who gets the important stat - W's, continues to be ranked lower than QB's who struggle to lead their team to the playoffs. Don't get me wrong...Joe struggles when facing tough defenses, but we also win against tough defenses. Not in spite of Joe, but because of Joe and our tough defense. We are successful because of our team...not one person. I would take Joe over Romo, Smith, and Stafford any day of the week, because we compete for championships. Those 3 are good for Fantasy owners. I would rather not play fantasy, and have my team in the dance every year, than vice versa.

[Adamame]

What I don't understand from all the "Analysts" is all the hate that Joe gets. I mean he has had Cam Cameron, Jim Caldwell, Gary Kubiak, and now Jim Trestman. Mind you that Jim Caldwell didn't implement his own new system, and just continued doing more of what Cam did to keep Joe fresh. Kubiak implemented the West Coast offense, and Trestman is only doing more of what Kubiak transitioned our offense to. Yet, all the hate for Joe. Not that I should really care what they say, it's just straight disrespect that a Super Bowl winning QB, who gets the important stat - W's, continues to be ranked lower than QB's who struggle to lead their team to the playoffs. Don't get me wrong...Joe struggles when facing tough defenses, but we also win against tough defenses. Not in spite of Joe, but because of Joe and our tough defense. We are successful because of our team...not one person. I would take Joe over Romo, Smith, and Stafford any day of the week, because we compete for championships. Those 3 are good for Fantasy owners. I would rather not play fantasy, and have my team in the dance every year, than vice versa.

Joe cures that by winning another ring and Superbowl MVP. We get to the playoffs, January Joe takes over. At this point I refuse to read anything titled "Quarterback Rankings".

[drillem]

Absent Kubiak, I think this team is doing the right things to bring about the best situation for the offense. There was some concern with the change of OC's again but Joe Flacco has proven over and over he can cope as long as the lead is solid. Of course only time will tell but from everything I've seen the new staff seem to be a positive considering all the change.

[runcontrol]

What are you talking about Popeye the Sailor Man? Cam Cameron bringing Joe along slowly? Joe started from day one due to injuries in the preseason. That was just a lot of Huey. In my opinion Cameron was holding him back, hence the Joe Montana run to the Super Bowl. Caldwell didn't do much that was a status quo. Kubiak changed the system entirely. Now we have Mr. Trestman the "quarterback whisperer". Joe has all the tools and is a smart guy. I think this is going to be one of his finest seasons yet. Hopefully we keep Trestman for awhile? I think this is a great fit of personalities and the best of Joe is yet to come.

 

Popeye actually has a point.  Cam slow brought Flacco up, relying a lot on the running game,  but I also agree with you.  By year three  Cam was holding him back and the Super Bowl run proved it.  I think 2013 could have been a big year for this offense but  the offensive line was one of the worst in the league, we didn't have a tight end, the running backs were terrible and the only healthy receivers we had were Smith, Brown, and Doss.

 

Things definitely got changed up when Kubiak took over but things could be interesting this season since the team seemed to draft players that will help this offense switch to Trestman's style of play calling.

[ellicottraven]

Well here's to hoping that Flacco puts up numbers this year that garner him the respect he deserves around the league.

[reed20fence]

Cam Cameron went 1-15 as the head coach of Miami in 2007, became Joe's playcaller, and was part of 5 straight playoff appearences, getting a cushy gig at LSU. Caldwell went 1 for life as head coach of the Manning-less "suck for Luck" Colts and came to us as a QB coach, became a coordinator, won a super bowl, almost went to two straight playoffs, and got a head coaching gig in Detrioit. Kubiak left a 2-14 Texans team that finished dead last, was chased out of Houston so fast they didn't even let him finish off the season, had a stroke, then came here and revived his career and was at the doorstep of a Super Bowl, ultimately going from pariah to a poached gem by Denver in less than a year.

I'm guessing Trestman is smart enough to get the picture. Flacco is a smart career move. Let these 4 coaches tell you whether Joe's a top 10 QB. I bet I know the answer.

We've all heard about the Ray Lewis coaching Tree. Maybe Ravens Nation starts reminding everyone about the Flacco Coaching Tree.

Edited May 21, 2015 by reed20fence

[Dorota]

Those two will get along magnificently I can't wait!

[cobrajet]

I am a fan of the West Coast offense and I love Kubiak's spin on it that he installed here. We had a lot of long drives last season spread the ball around. I hope Trestman keeps that going and improves on it. We have some nice additions on offense and if we stay healthy, this team could do something special.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Joe walked this offense up and down the field against the pats until he threw that very very very bad pass! Just pick back up on that game and Joe and Mark Can Make history and 3peat!!!

[Halshayeji]

To me, loosing coach Kubiak was the biggest loss this off-season. It sucked at first but seriously..... Good luck to Kubiak landing his dream job. Coach Trestman is not too shabby of a replacement himself. His resume is impressive and shows that he really understands quarterbacks. Going back to the 2001-2003 Oakland Raiders days when he did his magic.

I watched the Bears a few times over the past 2 years and have one concern. Coach Trestman rarely commits to the run. Matt forte had his worst 2 bad years running the ball under Trestmans watch leaving so much pressure on the Quarterback game in and game out.

His mentality is the the opposite of Kubiak even tho they run similar schemes. Trestman relies on the pass to run the clock afterwards. Kubiak on the other hand relies on the run to open up play action and deep passing game. That was perfect Flacco so I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that Flacco and them get it together before mid season. Remember it took about 10-12 weeks for our offense to run at full efficiency last year.

On the bright side, Trestman doesn't just let the dogs loose and throws the ball all over the place. In fact, Forte had 100 catches last year and I hope that trend continues. Flacco had a lot of success early in his career using ray rice as a pass catcher. Buck Allen may be the best catching RB in the draft.

Lets just hope Flacco and Trestman work something out and play "efficient" football. Flacco is certainly capable, the Oline is surely capeable, and our Defense would be so stingy at giving up points if we don't turn the ball over.

[bozo]

my only worries is that the ravens may have problems stopping the run, if that happens we're on a fast track to the bottom of the division.

[FastEddie]

my only worries is that the ravens may have problems stopping the run, if that happens we're on a fast track to the bottom of the division.

 

I wouldnt be to worried about the run this year, even after loosing McPhee and Ngata. Our DLine is very deep considering all of the young talent we have. I see Brandon Williams taking a leap in snaps and production 

[Mystigo_Dragon]

my only worries is that the ravens may have problems stopping the run, if that happens we're on a fast track to the bottom of the division.

 

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it!

I think what we lost in girth and agility with Haloti will be made up with speed and power with Jernigan & Williams leading the pack of "young big-uns" on the defensive line!

Edited June 1, 2015 by The Mom Gene
be nice!

[RavenManiac#7]

Well here's to hoping that Flacco puts up numbers this year that garner him the respect he deserves around the league.

I So agree. But, you know, it's really so darn silly that people can't understand that the stats that count are NOT the ones they are looking at when judging a QB. Why is it so hard for them to figure out how much more important it is to recognize that the Real stats that matter are simple Ws and Ls and the ones that start AFTER the regular season and begin in the playoffs? I challenge anybody to name a QB that can match Joe's stats in the playoffs, when games matter the most. Heck, most QBs don't even get there. And don't Even mention Cry Baby Brady's name, because he doesn't even count, PERIOD! Everything, and I do mean everything he has done is highly questionable to the point of being moot because it's All tainted. Nobody knows how many times he and his cohort, Belicheater, resorted to Something they shouldn't have. Besides, Joe has done pretty well against that cheater anyway. I'm just glad that most of Us know how great Joe is. I'm glad he's our QB. Wouldn't want anybody else.

[RavensFootballFan]

I got a good feeling about the offense this year. It looks like Flacco and Trestman are meshing perfectly well together and that bodes well for learning curves and cuts down on added time to get prepared. With much talk about our rookies and new WRs, let's not forget that Forsett is also a receiving threat out of back field with experience. Joe will have so many above average targets this year, that's when Trestman steps in and helps Joe decide where to throw each play to cut down on indecisions which is common for QBs with so many good targets. I see lots of TDs.

[ellicottraven]

I So agree. But, you know, it's really so darn silly that people can't understand that the stats that count are NOT the ones they are looking at when judging a QB. Why is it so hard for them to figure out how much more important it is to recognize that the Real stats that matter are simple Ws and Ls and the ones that start AFTER the regular season and begin in the playoffs? I challenge anybody to name a QB that can match Joe's stats in the playoffs, when games matter the most. Heck, most QBs don't even get there. And don't Even mention Cry Baby Brady's name, because he doesn't even count, PERIOD! Everything, and I do mean everything he has done is highly questionable to the point of being moot because it's All tainted. Nobody knows how many times he and his cohort, Belicheater, resorted to Something they shouldn't have. Besides, Joe has done pretty well against that cheater anyway. I'm just glad that most of Us know how great Joe is. I'm glad he's our QB. Wouldn't want anybody else.

Every single win in Brady's career is surely tainted now. I bet you he's been using underinflated balls for most of his career to give him and his team a decided advantage and potentially 30% more wins than they would've otherwise had.

[RavenManiac#7]

Has anyone noticed that Joe is ranked 10th all time in playoff wins with all the people around him current or future Hall of Famers?

And when you factor in how few the number of years he's taken to amass those playoff wins it becomes even more remarkable a feat. Just try to imagine how many more wins he will accumulate and how much higher on that list he'll go. And then remember that most people that aren't Ravens fans give him NO respect. Amazing, ain't it?

[RavenManiac#7]

Every single win in Brady's career is surely tainted now. I bet you he's been using underinflated balls for most of his career to give him and his team a decided advantage and potentially 30% more wins than they would've otherwise had.

That's Exactly what I'm talking about, ellicottraven! HE DON"T COUNT NOMO!

[fusuymada]

It almost seems like Flacco is finally getting comfortable in his role. Lets not forget that for years he was under a very strict Cameron and remember the conversations about whether Flacco could or could not call audibles at the line. So much so when Mason left he put it out that Joe had no say in the offense. That really stifled Joes development, I believe, and has had him approach the position with a little apprehension. Trestman is cerebral and isn't threatened by input from others the way Cam was and I think you can tell in the way Flacco is expressing himself he feels really good about the situation. I feel the Ravens have set him up for a very good year, surrounded him with some highly regarded talent and Joe needs to step up as another commenter said "MAKE the NFL respect him."

Edited May 21, 2015 by fusuymada

[RavenManiac#7]

I'm looking for the Perriman Marlon Brown duo. Our receiving core is a lot better than people think.

I think the total amount of talent we have with our current receiving corps is Far superior to any we have Ever had. That's going to make our final cuts Very interesting and Very difficult. I Will say that as much as I'm expecting from them, I Don't think we'll see the best from them this upcoming season. More production than we've grown accustomed to, absolutely, but so many of our receivers are young and still learning makes me think that it will take some more time for them to reach their full potential. That, combined with the cohesiveness with Joe that will come only with more time, reps, and knowledge and timing with each of them makes me think that our passing game will continue to improve in the next few years to come. I'm pretty excited about that.

[Crusader]

my only worries is that the ravens may have problems stopping the run, if that happens we're on a fast track to the bottom of the division.

Every chain has it weakness and that is my same worry too.

[Crusader]

"Trestman is known for his cerebral approach to the game," CEREBRAL! NOW that's using your head.

[Crusader]

I believe Treason could be a complete idiot but this offense will make him look like a genius.

[Flockster]

That's Exactly what I'm talking about, ellicottraven! HE DON"T COUNT NOMO!

Like a player whose been caught using PHD's. An unfair advantage. They should watch him.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Flockster

[gtalk12]

I don't know about you guys, but I remember his offense being run by McCown and it was AWESOME. For some odd reason it never translated with Cutler.

 

With Flacco under center I don't see why we can't have similar success.

 

That year for the Bears was horrible on the defensive side of the ball as well

[wrm#1]

Let me be very clear Flacco's improvement started with Jim Zorn, the problem was the ego of Cam Cameron...Joe couldn't express himself with Cameron (it was Camerons' way or no way) there where times you had to wonder if they even knew one another.... sort of like when Frank Kush was here (remember him, the my way or the highway,guy)!!

[concretejimmy]

Let me be very clear Flacco's improvement started with Jim Zorn, the problem was the ego of Cam Cameron...Joe couldn't express himself with Cameron (it was Camerons' way or no way) there where times you had to wonder if they even knew one another.... sort of like when Frank Kush was here (remember him, the my way or the highway,guy)!!

Thanks! I was wondering if I was the only one who saw it. I thought Flacco regressed when Zorn was fired. I still say Joe won in spite of Cameron. I was proven right when Ozzie made Harbaugh fire Cameron and replaced him with Caldwell. I called it. Joe on a SB run. Don't believe for a minute that wasn't all Joe Flacco on that impressive playoff run. Including Ray Lewis motivating a weary and not up to par defense. 2012 was Ray Lewis willing a team to win and Joe being Cool Joe. Ravens SB in 2015.

[concretejimmy]

Elway thought he got one over by taking away Kubiak. I think the Ravens are improved with Trestman at OC. Ozzie already gave him plenty of weapons to play with. Ravens offense is much improved. Ozzie plugged all holes in the draft and FA. Even the secondary might not be stellar but very serviceable. I'm expecting a top ten offense and defense and solid special teams. This team will be SB ready in December. Picking at #26, Ravens drafted as good as any team. I thought the Browns had an excellent draft and the Ravens weren't far behind. Ravens plugged holes with their first five picks. Walker, Boyle, Myers, and Waller were BPA luxury picks. Actually, I thought Myers was a great 5th round value and need pick. I get the feeling the Ravens won't be keeping both Yanda and Osemele. Do you trade one of them or let one walk? Both are worthy of a third round comp pick IMO.

[concretejimmy]

Elway makes me laugh. He took away Kubiak. Overpaid for Owen Daniels. And moved up to take Shane Ray thinking the Ravens were interested. I thought it was a reach. Now Manning will have an old TE to throw to. The TE they drafted early is out for the season. They lost possibly their best OL for the season and lost one in FA. Old Manning better have his head on a swivel. Now Kubiak is stuck in a spot with a washed up QB and an over-rated defense. LOL

[January J]

Elway makes me laugh. He took away Kubiak. Overpaid for Owen Daniels. And moved up to take Shane Ray thinking the Ravens were interested. I thought it was a reach. Now Manning will have an old TE to throw to. The TE they drafted early is out for the season. They lost possibly their best OL for the season and lost one in FA. Old Manning better have his head on a swivel. Now Kubiak is stuck in a spot with a washed up QB and an over-rated defense. LOL

doom and the guys are goin to rip Peyton a new 1 week one , givin him a nice sack filled afternoon to start off his farewell season. Elways gonna panic, kubiaks gonna be filled with regret , and manning will have a headache.