My 53 man roster let's see yours

[Ravensfan23]

It's a tough year to predict without a question in my mind.

I think Waller could be used as a mismatch, mainly taking advantage of his size and straight speed in a Graham type of role. Not saying he'll be a TE but I think we'll use him in that way.

Oh i definitely think that's in the works for Waller, especially considering Harbs all but said that's apart of the plan for him. But even with that role i can't see more then 8-12 catches in the offense and that's an even worse sign for a guy like Camp. Call me crazy but i can honestly see the team only keeping 5 WRs because it'll be tough for even Aiken to make the team imo. Yea he did well on ST last year but i don't think that means as much as people tend to think with Harbs. It wasn't enough to save Laquan Williams.

This is a very talent and young team. Couldn't be more excited to see these guys compete

[GrimCoconut]

Oh i definitely think that's in the works for Waller, especially considering Harbs all but said that's apart of the plan for him. But even with that role i can't see more then 8-12 catches in the offense and that's an even worse sign for a guy like Camp. Call me crazy but i can honestly see the team only keeping 5 WRs because it'll be tough for even Aiken to make the team imo. Yea he did well on ST last year but i don't think that means as much as people tend to think with Harbs. It wasn't enough to save Laquan Williams.

This is a very talent and young team. Couldn't be more excited to see these guys compete

I agree and disagree. I think you could see 6 WRs on the team, but hey, it's possible we only keep 5. I don't know about your reception projection, but I'll leave that be. I think Trestman wants to gas out the defense, and he can do that by keeping them on the field and by not substituting, so by not bringing in WRs and by running 2 TE sets, you can do a lot of damage. I think we could still see a lot of 3 WR sets, though. Having Brown, Pitta, Perriman and Smith Sr on the field makes a ton of sense to me. They can all, run block and they can all receive. Smith Sr has a disadvantage of height, but I wouldn't tell him that's a disadvantage! Lol 

 

I think we'll see more 3 WR sets that you projected from Trestman's history, but I don't think we will see as much as Kubiak. To be fair, however, much of what Kubiak did was related to the fact that we lost Pitta and didn't have much behind him. Honestly, I think we were caught with our pants down on that one. We only had Gillmore and Daniels. Granted, it worked, but I don't think we expected that to happen. In fact, I recall people said the very same thing about Kubiak last year, saying he runs a ton of 2TE sets, we'd never see 3 WR sets, etc. What happened? We ran a lot of WR heavy sets and it worked. I wouldn't say that we will see a decrease in 3 WR sets just because Trestman does it a lot. I know you aren't saying that necessarily, but I want to illustrate this point: I think the best guys will be out there catching balls from Joe. If that's 4 WR, 3 WR, 2 WR, etc. then it is. 

[Ravensfan23]

Here's my stab at it.

QBs(2)

Flacco, Schuab

RBs(3)

Forsett, LT, Buck

FB(1)

Juice

WR(5)

Perriman, Brown, Smith Sr, Waller, Camp

TE(4)

Pitta, Williams, Gilmore Boyle

Oline (9)

Monroe, KO, Zattah, Yanda, Wagner, Hurst, Urschel, Myers

DL(6)

BW, Timmy, Davis, Guy, Urban, Tyson,

OLB/DE(5)

Suggs, Doom, Upshaw, Smith, Means

ILB(4)

Buck, CJ, Orr, Brown,

CB(6)

Smith, Webb, KA, Walker, Melvin,

S(4)

Hill, Lewis, Elam, Levine

ST(4)

Tucker, Koch, Cox, Ajax

I got Brooks on the Pup obviously. I have Tyson and the productive youth of Urban and Guy pushing Canty off the roster. I have Jacobs, Perry, Worthy, Balwdin and KLM all battling hard for roster spot and having a great shot at knocking someone off the roster.

[Ravensfan23]

I agree and disagree. I think you could see 6 WRs on the team, but hey, it's possible we only keep 5. I don't know about your reception projection, but I'll leave that be. I think Trestman wants to gas out the defense, and he can do that by keeping them on the field and by not substituting, so by not bringing in WRs and by running 2 TE sets, you can do a lot of damage. I think we could still see a lot of 3 WR sets, though. Having Brown, Pitta, Perriman and Smith Sr on the field makes a ton of sense to me. They can all, run block and they can all receive. Smith Sr has a disadvantage of height, but I wouldn't tell him that's a disadvantage! Lol 

 

I think we'll see more 3 WR sets that you projected from Trestman's history, but I don't think we will see as much as Kubiak. To be fair, however, much of what Kubiak did was related to the fact that we lost Pitta and didn't have much behind him. Honestly, I think we were caught with our pants down on that one. We only had Gillmore and Daniels. Granted, it worked, but I don't think we expected that to happen. In fact, I recall people said the very same thing about Kubiak last year, saying he runs a ton of 2TE sets, we'd never see 3 WR sets, etc. What happened? We ran a lot of WR heavy sets and it worked. I wouldn't say that we will see a decrease in 3 WR sets just because Trestman does it a lot. I know you aren't saying that necessarily, but I want to illustrate this point: I think the best guys will be out there catching balls from Joe. If that's 4 WR, 3 WR, 2 WR, etc. then it is.

Yea i definitely believe we will see a lot of 3WR sets because we already have the personnel for it as a guys like Brown and Smith Sr can work both inside and out. My point for brining up Trestman's history was because he doesn't have a history of utilizing the 4th and 5th WRs. So if you have guys like Camp or Carter as your 6th and 7th WRs both guys can't be labeled RS imo and id they aren't seeing the field on offense that's exactly what they are. Just RS.

I realy think Juice breaks out in this offense. Talk about using a mismatch against base defenses, that guy could be huge.

[GrimCoconut]

Yea i definitely believe we will see a lot of 3WR sets because we already have the personnel for it as a guys like Brown and Smith Sr can work both inside and out. My point for brining up Trestman's history was because he doesn't have a history of utilizing the 4th and 5th WRs. So if you have guys like Camp or Carter as your 6th and 7th WRs both guys can't be labeled RS imo and id they aren't seeing the field on offense that's exactly what they are. Just RS.

I realy think Juice breaks out in this offense. Talk about using a mismatch against base defenses, that guy could be huge.

Juszczyk is actually a guy I think will break out this year, so I very much agree. I forgot all about him, but I think he's going to be my breakout guy this year. 

 

Yeah, I can see that, but I think it's a bit unfair to say they won't get much playing time. I think Carter or Campanaro could see playing time, but I don't see them being featured a ton. Campanaro could very well get action if he impresses. I think he could rotate in with Steve Smith if he can prove his worth. 

 

Much has changed with this WR corps since the days we discussed prospects like Jeffrey and Childs, huh? Lol. 

[Ravensfan23]

Juszczyk is actually a guy I think will break out this year, so I very much agree. I forgot all about him, but I think he's going to be my breakout guy this year. 

 

Yeah, I can see that, but I think it's a bit unfair to say they won't get much playing time. I think Carter or Campanaro could see playing time, but I don't see them being featured a ton. Campanaro could very well get action if he impresses. I think he could rotate in with Steve Smith if he can prove his worth. 

 

Much has changed with this WR corps since the days we discussed prospects like Jeffrey and Childs, huh? Lol. 

 

Much has changed indeed. lol. 

 

I'm not really saying that Camp or Carter if he makes it(not sold) will not get any playing time because I think they will. I just don't see them being feature in the offense in the slot to the potential that a guy like Camp could be. Camp has a unique talent and if he stays healthy Trestman will definitely be able to use that talent, I just don't know if Camp will either be a focal point of the game plan. I just see Brown Perriman and Smith getting most of the opportunities at WR, with the likes of Maxx, Juice, Pitta, Gilmore, Forsett/Buck picking up the majority of the remaining catches. With Waller and Camp bring up the rear. That's just how I see it right now, but the preseason could really change the way I see this offense.

[Edgar]

Steven means is a guy not getting a ton of notice but is a player for whom the FO has high expectations.

I don't think Asa Jackson makes this team. I would not be surprised at all if Lewis- Moore is cut at some point.

Very excited to see competition at WR. Think the team will have some tough choices to make if all are healthy.

[omar586]

It may be a little soon, like the mock drafts that appear months before the draft, and players may still be released, traded or acquired in some fashion, but let's all try and give this a shot and see who can get the closest this far out. Here we go:

QB;

Flacco

Schaub

RB;

Forsett

Allen

Juszczyk

Taliaferro

WRs;

S Smith

M Brown

Perriman

Campanaro

Aiken

Waller

Butler PS

Tackle;

Monroe

Wagner

Hurst

Guard;

Osemele

Yanda

Uershel

Myers

Center;

Zuttah

Jensen

TEs;

Pitta

M Williams

Gilmore

Boyle

DT;

B Williams

Davis

DE;

Jernigan

Lewis-Moore

Canty Tyson

Urban

Guy

OLB;

Dumerville

Suggs

Upshaw

A Smith

ILB;

Moseley

D Smith

A Brown

McClellan

CB;

Webb

Smith

Arrington

Melvin

Walker

Wilson  levine

S;

Lewis

Hill

Perry J. miLes

Elam

LS;

Cox

P;

Koch

K;

Tucker

Edited May 19, 2015 by omar586

[omar586]

Special Teams: 3

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox [3]

Offense: 22

QB: Flacco, Schaub [2]

RB: Forsett, Allen, Taliaferro [3]

FB: Juszczyk [1]

TE: Pitta [PUP], Gillmore, Williams, Boyle [3]

OT: Monroe, Wagner, Hurst [3]

OG/C: Yanda, KO, Zuttah, Urschel, Myers [5]

WR: Perriman, Smith, Brown, Campanaro, Waller [5]

Defense: 22

DE: (5T) Canty/Tyson, Urban [3]

NT: (0T) Williams, Guy[2]

DT: (3T) Jernigan/Davis [2]

ILB: Mosley, Smith, Brown [3]

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Smith [4]

CB: Smith, Webb, Arrington, Melvin, Walker [5]

S: Hill, Lewis, Brooks [PUP], Levine [3]

That makes up 47 players I strongly believe make the team, leaving honest competition for the remaining 6 spots. Those remaining players will need to be versatile enough to play both ST and their respective position.

Safety: Elam, Perry, Trawick.

CB: Jacobs, Jackson, Greenwood.

WR: Butler, Carter, Aiken.

RB: Magee.

OL: Clausell, Easton, Jensen, Reid.

DL: Bilukidi, Lewis Moore.

OLB: Means.

ILB: McClellan, Orr.

That's pretty much the pretty the list of guys I see fighting for those last spots. I think it's going to take more than being a ST ace to make the team this year. I also think we'll seriously evaluate keeping young talent over older veterans if we can.

in red will make the team, starting the season w/2 players on the PUP list will make it less diffiucult for FO to cut some of these guys.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Gut feeling he might just be the odd man out. I think his ticket to the roster this year is through returns, and I know Harbaugh (maybe?) specifically said the other day that he was an option on PR. I have a feeling Campanaro will be the guy for that, and I gave Carter the edge on KR.

I was going to go with 6 CBs, but with Elam and Levine both being able to play, I was thinking they may opt to go with 5 CBs.

Jackson is my last man off though, so I do think he could easily push Carter off the roster as well. I think Jackson could very well make it, but I have him as my #54 right now.

I agree..its time to wrap up the old project move on with a new one.

[Drew P]

I dont get the juice guy on the roster hasnt done a damn thing and is occupying an obsolete position

[RobFuseRaven]

I dont get the juice guy on the roster hasnt done a damn thing and is occupying an obsolete position

Not only does he open up holes for the runningbacks, but he does it at a Pro Bowl level. And he isn't even a fullback. He is an H-Back. He did have a little trouble with fumbling, but I think that can be coached out of him. I love having a swiss army knife like him, because he can play on both running and passing downs.

[PurpleCity5]

Offense

 

QB: Joe Flacco(Starter), Matt Schaubs 

RB: Justin Forsett(Start), Buck Allen, Lorenzo Taliafero

WR: Breshaud Perriman(Start), Marlon Brown(Start), SSS(Slot), Michael Campanaro, Kamar Aiken, Darren Waller, DeAndre Carter.

TE: Maxx Williams(Starter), Crockett Gilmore, Nick Boyle

RB: Juice

OT: Eugene Monroe(Start), Rick Wagner(Start), James Hurst

OG: Marshal Yanda(Start), Kelechi Osemele(Start), Robert Myers 

C: John Urschel(Starter), Jeremy Zuttah

 

Defense

 

DE: Brent Urban(Starter), Chris Canty, DeAngelo Tyson

NT: Brandon Williams(Starter), Lawrence Guy

DT: Timmy Jernigan(Starter), Carl Davis

ILB: C.J Mosley, Daryl Smith, Arthur Brown

OLB: Sizzle(Start), Doom, Upshaw, Z.Smith

CB: Jimmy Smith(Starter), Lardarius Webb(Starter), Kyle Arrington(Slot), Asa Jackson, Tray Walker, Rashan Melvin

S: Will Hill(SS)Starter, Kendrick Lewis(FS)Starter, Jeromy Miles, Matt Elam, Anthony Levine 

 

Special Teams: Justin Tucker, Sam Koch 

 

PUP: Dennis Pitta, Terrence Brooks

 

That's how I see it. 

Edited May 19, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Drew P]

Not only does he open up holes for the runningbacks, but he does it at a Pro Bowl level. And he isn't even a fullback. He is an H-Back. He did have a little trouble with fumbling, but I think that can be coached out of him. I love having a swiss army knife like him, because he can play on both running and passing downs.

 

waste of a roster slot. They seldomly used Leach in his final 2 years and he was a wrecking ball as a blocker juice is like you said an h back but with little production to his name

[PurpleCity5]

I got Marlon Brown starting. SSS I think will play the slot with Brown as the #2 WR with Perriman being #1. Trestman loves big WRs. I got 7 WR's with two guys being return men. 

 

I think Urschel takes the starting Center job. Zuttah hasn't been himself at the end of the season, with that being due to hip surgery but I feel that Urschel is gaining traction right now, he's played very well in his rookie year and I think he get's even better by Camp. 

 

Maxx Williams starts at TE will Pitta sits on PUP.

 

Yes, I got Urban starting. He was said to become impressive during Camp, before the injury. Canty is a primary run stopper, but that's really it. Tyson has had his up's and down's. It seems to me that Urban is slated to start. 

[RobFuseRaven]

waste of a roster slot. They seldomly used Leach in his final 2 years and he was a wrecking ball as a blocker juice is like you said an h back but with little production to his name

 

He's a completely different player than Leach. When Leach was on the field, defenses knew it was an obvious run play. Juice gives you more options. He had plenty of production last year making crucial blocks and catching the ball. Could you further elaborate your reasoning for the random Juice dislike?

[Drew P]

He's a completely different player than Leach. When Leach was on the field, defenses knew it was an obvious run play. Juice gives you more options. He had plenty of production last year making crucial blocks and catching the ball. Could you further elaborate your reasoning for the random Juice dislike?

 

Its not a dislike it just doesnt make a bit of sense to have 4 RB's. They have 2 promising rookie TE's that will bring more to the table than him. If it came down to juice, Waller or D. Carter for the last offensive roster slot im taking the latter 2 over...

[RobFuseRaven]

Its not a dislike it just doesnt make a bit of sense to have 4 RB's. They have 2 promising rookie TE's that will bring more to the table than him. If it came down to juice, Waller or D. Carter for the last offensive roster slot im taking the latter 2 over...

 

There is room for Juice, Williams and Boyle. I can tell you this. There is absolutely 0% chance Carter makes it over Juice. Carter is only potential right now and that's only based off of some rookie mini camps. Juice is a proven player who moves the chains and can block well. I'll take that all day everyday. The more diverse you can make an offense, the more defenses will have to plan.

[Drew P]

There is room for Juice, Williams and Boyle. I can tell you this. There is absolutely 0% chance Carter makes it over Juice. Carter is only potential right now and that's only based off of some rookie mini camps. Juice is a proven player who moves the chains and can block well. I'll take that all day everyday. The more diverse you can make an offense, the more defenses will have to plan.

 

I dont see a man on the proposed 53 other than Carter who can assume return duties...just saying

[RobFuseRaven]

I dont see a man on the proposed 53 other than Carter who can assume return duties...just saying

 

There is still a lot that can happen between now and the start of the season. Carter could very well make the roster, but it won't be at the expense of Juice.

[Wildabeast88]

I dont get the juice guy on the roster hasnt done a damn thing and is occupying an obsolete position

FB TE and special teams I guess that's nothing. Ask Forsett if that position is obsolete

[Wildabeast88]

I dont see a man on the proposed 53 other than Carter who can assume return duties...just saying

I do like the potential for Carter as a returner but Camp returned kicks in college Asa has returned kicks also and did quite well in doing so

[Ravensfan23]

I love how DeAndre Carter has such fanfare and some even think he's a lock to make the team. I'm intrigued by the guy but lets see him play first. We hear the same story evey year from an undrafted guy only to see that guy cut before the 53 is announced.

Then there's always a guy like Zach Orr who just goes to work and nobody talks about them until they make the final roster. DeAndre Carter is quickly becoming the equivalent of Sammy Seamster last season. All the hype from fans only to get cut, while a guy like Brennen Beyer makes the roster.

[beasy2487]

...but it's only our first date. 

[Drew P]

I do like the potential for Carter as a returner but Camp returned kicks in college Asa has returned kicks also and did quite well in doing so

 

Oh ok those two guys that play one game a year got it.

[RobFuseRaven]

Oh ok those two guys that play one game a year got it.

 

As opposed to Carter who's played no games?

[Drew P]

As opposed to Carter who's played no games?

Its unknown at this point but what is know is those other guys cannot stay healthy

[rmw10]

I love how DeAndre Carter has such fanfare and some even think he's a lock to make the team. I'm intrigued by the guy but lets see him play first. We hear the same story evey year from an undrafted guy only to see that guy cut before the 53 is announced.

Then there's always a guy like Zach Orr who just goes to work and nobody talks about them until they make the final roster. DeAndre Carter is quickly becoming the equivalent of Sammy Seamster last season. All the hype from fans only to get cut, while a guy like Brennen Beyer makes the roster.

 

I do agree, even though I have Carter on my 53 man roster right now.  He's definitely #53 on that roster though.  I wouldn't call him a lock at all.  I'm sure it'll change heavily once the full team starts practicing together and everything.

[jazz1988]

I dont get the juice guy on the roster hasnt done a damn thing and is occupying an obsolete position

 

To say he hasn't a done a thing is kinda beyond wrong

 

Its not a dislike it just doesnt make a bit of sense to have 4 RB's. They have 2 promising rookie TE's that will bring more to the table than him. If it came down to juice, Waller or D. Carter for the last offensive roster slot im taking the latter 2 over...

 

Juice brings a lot of versatility to The Ravens offense because he's so versatile.You can use him to block for the running back, line him up in the slot, and even use play action plays where he's the one being target  .In todays NFL offensive coordinators are always looking for a mismatches and cause confusion towards opposing defenses. Juice is a player that helps with that . John Harbaugh love's special teams  and guess who's one of the best blockers on the team for the kick returner. 

 

I like Waller and D. Carter but none them have shown anything yet.  Waller a developmental player whom i'm sure The Ravens hope will eventually become something good  but unless he's really making the case for being The Ravens number 3 or 4 wideout then he going to have to prove his worth on special teams. Carter has the ability to be a kick/punt returner but his experience in that area in college is pretty limited. 

[Ravensfan23]

I do agree, even though I have Carter on my 53 man roster right now.  He's definitely #53 on that roster though.  I wouldn't call him a lock at all.  I'm sure it'll change heavily once the full team starts practicing together and everything.

 

Yea I think i had him on the PS with my 53 so i'm definitely not sour on the guy, i'm just seeing a UDFA trend of overhyping a guy and he seems to be that guy this year. I hope the guy can make the team because he's someone the Ravens identified early on in the draft process and they generally have a plan for those type guys. But him being impressive right now is about as great a sign of things to come as Kyle Boller throwing a ball 50 yards on one knee. Once the full team is there and in pads these guys will start to separate themselves. 

 

Also in terms of the return job, Harbs and Ozzie said they still got their eyes on a couple options outside. That wouldn't be great odds for Carter to make the team as I'm guessing that RS role will play a huge factor in if he's apart of the team.