My 53 man roster let's see yours

[fusuymada]

It may be a little soon, like the mock drafts that appear months before the draft, and players may still be released, traded or acquired in some fashion, but let's all try and give this a shot and see who can get the closest this far out. Here we go:

QB;

Flacco

Schaub

RB;

Forsett

Allen

Juszczyk

Taliaferro

WRs;

S Smith

M Brown

Perriman

Campanaro

Aiken

Waller

Butler

Tackle;

Monroe

Wagner

Hurst

Guard;

Osemele

Yanda

Uershel

Myers

Center;

Zuttah

Jensen

TEs;

Pitta

M Williams

Gilmore

Boyle

DT;

B Williams

Davis

DE;

Jernigan

Lewis-Moore

Canty

Urban

OLB;

Dumerville

Suggs

Upshaw

A Smith

ILB;

Moseley

D Smith

A Brown

McClellan

CB;

Webb

Smith

Arrington

Melvin

Walker

Wilson

S;

Lewis

Hill

Perry

Elam

LS;

Cox

P;

Koch

K;

Tucker

[rmw10]

Mine has changed a bit since the last one I did… This is what I got now:

 

QB (2): Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub

RB (3): Justin Forsett, Lorenzo Taliaferro, Javorius Allen

FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk

WR (7): Steve Smith, Breshad Perriman, Marlon Brown, Kamar Aiken, Michael Campanaro, Darren Waller, DeAndre Carter

TE (3): Maxx Williams, Crockett Gillmore, Nick Boyle (Dennis Pitta on PUP)

OL (8): Eugene Monroe, Kelechi Osemele, Jeremy Zuttah, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, John Urschel, James Hurst, Robert Myers

 

DL (7): Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan, Chris Canty, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, Lawrence Guy, DeAngelo Tyson

OLB (4): Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, Courtney Upshaw, Za'Darius Smith

ILB (5): CJ Mosley, Daryl Smith, Albert McClellan, Zach Orr, Arthur Brown

CB (5): Jimmy Smith, Lardarius Webb, Kyle Arrington, Rashaan Melvin, Tray Walker

S (5): Will Hill, Kendrick Lewis, Matt Elam, Anthony Levine, Nick Perry

 

ST (3): Justin Tucker, Sam Koch, Morgan Cox

 

 

I'd say that Carter, Tyson, Brown, and Perry are those at the end of the roster that could easily fall off.

[Static]

Levine makes the roster as a CB/S Hybrid

Edited May 16, 2015 by Static

[rmw10]

CB;

Webb

Smith

Arrington

Melvin

Walker

Wilson

 

 

Wilson broke his leg and is done for the year already.

[RobFuseRaven]

Mine is a little different from last time.

 

QB (2): Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub

RB (3): Justin Forsett, Lorenzo Taliaferro, Buck Allen

FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk

WR (6): Steve Smith, Breshad Perriman, Marlon Brown, Kamar Aiken, Michael Campanaro, Darren Waller

TE (3): Maxx Williams, Crockett Gillmore, Nick Boyle

OL (8): Eugene Monroe, Kelechi Osemele, Jeremy Zuttah, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, John Urschel, James Hurst, Robert Myers

 

DL (7): Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan, Chris Canty, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, Lawrence Guy, DeAngelo Tyson

OLB (5): Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, Courtney Upshaw, Za'Darius Smith, Steven Means

ILB (4): CJ Mosley, Daryl Smith, Zach Orr, Arthur Brown

CB (6): Jimmy Smith, Lardarius Webb, Kyle Arrington, Rashaan Melvin, Asa Jackson, Tray Walker

S (5): Will Hill, Kendrick Lewis, Matt Elam, Anthony Levine, Jeromy Miles (I think he gets re-signed last minute.)

 

ST (3): Justin Tucker, Sam Koch, Morgan Cox

Edited May 17, 2015 by RobFuseRaven

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

QB: Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub (2)

RB: Justin Forsett, Lorenzo Taliaferro, Buck Allen (3)

FB: Juice (1)

WR: Steve Smith Sr., Breshad Perriman, Marlon Brown, Michael Campanero, Kamar Aiken, Darren Waller, DeAndre Carter (7)

TE: Dennis Pitta, Maxx Williams, Crockett Gilmore (3)

[if Pitta isn't ready to start season Nick Boyle enters here, otherwise he's PS]

OL: Eugene Monroe, Kelechi Osemele, Jeremy Zuttah, Marshal Yanda, Rick Wagner, John Urschel, James Hurst, Robert Myers (8)

DL: Chris Canty, Brandon Williams, Timmy Jernigan, Carl Davis, Brent Urban, Lawrence Guy, Bilukidi, DeAngelo Tyson (8)

OLB: Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, Courtney Upshaw, Za'Darius Smith (4)

ILB: CJ Mosley, Daryl Smith, Arthur Brown (3)

CB: Jimmy Smith, Ladarius Webb, Kyle Arrington, Rashan Melvin, Asa Jackson, Tray Walker (6)

S: Will Hill, Kendrick Lewis, Anthony Levine, Matt Elam, Brynden Trawick (5)

LS: Morgan Cox (1)

P: Sam Koch (1)

K: Justin Tucker (1)

--

Bubble Players:

(ON)

Arthur Brown, Bilukidi, DeAngelo Tyson, DeAndre Carter, Myers, Brynden Trawick, Asa Jackson, Tray Walker

(OFF)

Kapron Lewis-Moore, Albert McClellan, Zach Orr, Butler, Nick Boyle, Ryan Jensen, Jah Reid, Nick Perry

I could easily see any of the bubble players get cut/make the team.

Without having PS eligibility in front of me I may make some changes knowing we could stash certain players to keep another who isn't eligible for an extended tryout.

Also, ST contributions as always will be huge when making decisions on those final spots. If Camp or Asa Jackson can win the return duties then I don't see DeAndre Carter making the 53 - he'll go to the PS and I think Orr or McClellan makes it for ST.

Ask me tomorrow and I guarantee it's slightly different. This is the toughest I remember it being in the last 8 years since I've been doing it. I don't envy the coaching staff and FO's job of having to trim this incredibly deep, talented and young group of players.

I think there are easily about 65-70 that can play in the NFL, and at least 60 I want to keep.

Edited May 17, 2015 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[omar586]

It may be a little soon, like the mock drafts that appear months before the draft, and players may still be released, traded or acquired in some fashion, but let's all try and give this a shot and see who can get the closest this far out. Here we go:

QB;

Flacco

Schaub

RB;

Forsett

Allen

Juszczyk

Taliaferro

WRs;

S Smith

M Brown

Perriman

Campanaro

Aiken

Waller

Butler

Tackle;

Monroe

Wagner

Hurst

Guard;

Osemele

Yanda

Uershel

Myers

Center;

Zuttah

Jensen

TEs;

Pitta

M Williams

Gilmore

Boyle

DT;

B Williams

Davis

DE;

Jernigan

Lewis-Moore

Canty

Urban

OLB;

Dumerville

Suggs

Upshaw

A Smith

ILB;

Moseley

D Smith

A Brown

McClellan

CB;

Webb

Smith

Arrington

Melvin

Walker

Wilson

S;

Lewis

Hill

Perry

Elam

LS;

Cox

P;

Koch

K;

Tucker

who is wilson in CB?

[deacfan]

Dont sleep Jeremy Butler!

[757RavensFan]

who is wilson in CB?

UDFA who broke his leg the 1st day of rookie camp.

[rmw10]

ILB: CJ Mosley, Daryl Smith, Arthur Brown (3)

 

 

We run a 3-4 base.  There's absolutely no way we enter with only 3 ILB.  If 1 gets hurt, that means 1 enters and we have a grand total of 0 backups.

[Sami84]

QB;
Flacco
Schaub

RB;
Forsett
Allen
Juszczyk
Taliaferro

WRs;
S Smith
M Brown
Perriman
Campanaro
Waller

De Andre Carter


Tackle;
Monroe
Wagner
Hurst


Guard;
Osemele
Yanda
Urschel
Myers

Center;
Zuttah
Jensen

TEs;
Pitta
M Williams
Gilmore
Boyle

DT;
B Williams
Davis

DE;
Jernigan
Lewis-Moore
Canty
Urban

OLB;
Dumervill
Suggs
Upshaw
Za'Darius Smith

ILB;
Mosley
D Smith
A Brown
McClellan

CB;
Webb
Smith
Arrington
Melvin
Walker


S;
Lewis
Hill
Perry
Elam

LS;
Cox

P;
Koch

K;
Tucker

[Static]

Interesting seeing Nick Perry over Tramain Jacobs

 

Also you guys need more Laurence Guy on your lists.

[rmw10]

Interesting seeing Nick Perry over Tramain Jacobs

 

Also you guys need more Laurence Guy on your lists.

 

I think it's going to be hard for an extra CB to make it since both Elam and Levine can step in at CB if necessary.

 

In all reality though, I think it's going to come down to ST, and word is that Perry is a guy that will excel there.

[JoeyFlex5]

QB(2): flacco, schaub 

RB(3): forsett, buck, talliaferro 

WR(6): smith, perriman, brown, aiken, campanaro(health willing), carter(for KR) 

OL(9)(due to having swing guys i list the whole group): monroe, wagner, yanda, KO, zuttah, urschel, hurst, myers, jensen 

TE(3): williams, gilmore, boyle 

FB(1): juice

(24 offense) 

 

DL(8): jernigan, williams, canty, davis, urban, KLM, guy, tyson 

OLB(4): suggs, doom, upshaw, smith 

ILB(4): mosley, smith, brown, orr 

DB(10): hill, lewis, elam, smith, webb, melvin, arrington, jackson, levine, trawick

(26 defense) 

 

ST(3): tucker, koch, cox 

 

really wanna put waller on here but if i place him over carter than we have no real KR options, although waller could make an elite gunner and exterior blocker. 

[rmw10]

 

DB(10): hill, lewis, elam, smith, webb, melvin, arrington, jackson, levine, trawick

(26 defense) 

 

 

You left Tray Walker out.  I'd say a 4th round pick is pretty safe.

[JoeyFlex5]

You left Tray Walker out.  I'd say a 4th round pick is pretty safe.

i left him out on purpose, just cuz he was picked in the 4th doesnt mean hes safe, if the big jump in competition level is too much for him then he could definitely find himself in depth chart purgatory for a year, not everyone is like brandon williams or webb meaning they can come from a no name school to the NFL with no problems. plus after hearing reports of how raw he is, im not sure harbs wants to field a guy who isnt ready to play, an inexperienced db can be one of the biggest liabilities youll ever find on a nfl team

[rmw10]

i left him out on purpose, just cuz he was picked in the 4th doesnt mean hes safe, if the big jump in competition level is too much for him then he could definitely find himself in depth chart purgatory for a year, not everyone is like brandon williams or webb meaning they can come from a no name school to the NFL with no problems. plus after hearing reports of how raw he is, im not sure harbs wants to field a guy who isnt ready to play, an inexperienced db can be one of the biggest liabilities youll ever find on a nfl team

 

I think he's more than safe.  The team considered taking him in the 3rd.  They like him a lot.

[JoeyFlex5]

I think he's more than safe.  The team considered taking him in the 3rd.  They like him a lot.

i guess we'll have to see, but unless he can blow our longtime ST ace's out of the water than i think it may be hard for him to make the active roster week 1. im not saying he wont see the roster at all this year, im talking about strictly in week 1, i think he may need a little extra coaching before he bypasses the couple of guys that have been special teams standouts for us for the past 2 years or so, and because of the arrington signing, smith/webb/ajax being relatively healthy, and melvin having a solid showing last year, i think walkers only route to the active 53 is through ST. if harbs wants to field him on ST over trawick(who, aside from 1 hiccup with jacoby, has been a ST stud) orr, and levine(who was solid depth last year as well), then that must mean he had a hell of a training camp, because we know how harbs feels about ST and how he prefers experienced guys. i wouldnt exactly be surprised, im just going off of history here and i think history shows all the things i just explained.

[rmw10]

i guess we'll have to see, but unless he can blow our longtime ST ace's out of the water than i think it may be hard for him to make the active roster week 1. im not saying he wont see the roster at all this year, im talking about strictly in week 1, i think he may need a little extra coaching before he bypasses the couple of guys that have been special teams standouts for us for the past 2 years or so, and because of the arrington signing, smith/webb/ajax being relatively healthy, and melvin having a solid showing last year, i think walkers only route to the active 53 is through ST. if harbs wants to field him on ST over trawick(who, aside from 1 hiccup with jacoby, has been a ST stud) orr, and levine(who was solid depth last year as well), then that must mean he had a hell of a training camp, because we know how harbs feels about ST and how he prefers experienced guys. i wouldnt exactly be surprised, im just going off of history here and i think history shows all the things i just explained.

 

While it's true that he likely needs some development before he's ready, the question is where else are you going to put him?  If you try to cut him, he's getting plucked, no question.  I guess "IR" could be an option, but I highly doubt they're going to stunt the development of a guy that really needs it.  The roster isn't always made up of guys that can help right now.  Future contributions have to be considered, and I doubt they risk screwing up a guy that they liked enough to consider taking in the 3rd.  I think history shows that we keep guys like this around.

[GrimCoconut]

While it's true that he likely needs some development before he's ready, the question is where else are you going to put him? If you try to cut him, he's getting plucked, no question. I guess "IR" could be an option, but I highly doubt they're going to stunt the development of a guy that really needs it. The roster isn't always made up of guys that can help right now. Future contributions have to be considered, and I doubt they risk screwing up a guy that they liked enough to consider taking in the 3rd. I think history shows that we keep guys like this around.

1. Why'd you leave Asa Jackson off the list? I think those five you mentioned make the team as well, but Jackson is a guy I think could stick.

2. To further your point about keeping a guy around even if they won't contribute immediately is 2013 with Jensen. We could've sent him to IR but we kept him the entire season.

[JoeyFlex5]

While it's true that he likely needs some development before he's ready, the question is where else are you going to put him?  If you try to cut him, he's getting plucked, no question.  I guess "IR" could be an option, but I highly doubt they're going to stunt the development of a guy that really needs it.  The roster isn't always made up of guys that can help right now.  Future contributions have to be considered, and I doubt they risk screwing up a guy that they liked enough to consider taking in the 3rd.  I think history shows that we keep guys like this around.

you make a good point, idk really. just my projection based on some things i know about how harbaugh works. i think levine and trawick making it over walker would be realistic, but if walker makes it over one of them i wouldnt be surprised by that either. 

[rmw10]

1. Why'd you leave Asa Jackson off the list? I think those five you mentioned make the team as well, but Jackson is a guy I think could stick.

2. To further your point about keeping a guy around even if they won't contribute immediately is 2013 with Jensen. We could've sent him to IR but we kept him the entire season.

 

Gut feeling he might just be the odd man out.  I think his ticket to the roster this year is through returns, and I know Harbaugh (maybe?) specifically said the other day that he was an option on PR.  I have a feeling Campanaro will be the guy for that, and I gave Carter the edge on KR.

 

I was going to go with 6 CBs, but with Elam and Levine both being able to play, I was thinking they may opt to go with 5 CBs.

 

Jackson is my last man off though, so I do think he could easily push Carter off the roster as well.  I think Jackson could very well make it, but I have him as my #54 right now.

[allblackraven]

1. Why'd you leave Asa Jackson off the list? I think those five you mentioned make the team as well, but Jackson is a guy I think could stick.

 

I had Jackson left out of 53 on my initial list and now with Arrington added, I really don't see him making it. Lot of potential but not much consistency due to injuries.

[GrimCoconut]

To both your comments above on Jackson, he's a toss up. There's an argument made for him to go or stay. Yes, he hasn't put it together yet and that's usually not good entering your final year, but he's had decent showings and is a ST player. He's good on ST from what I recall, so it's not inconceivable that he could push Aiken off the list, for instance.

I honestly think he's a push either way. Just wanted to hear someone else's view. That's why I come here lol. Not saying you guys are wrong or anything. Just making that clear.

I really like Carter's chances of making this team, so I'd agree with you on that regard.

Edit: another note, while it's true Levine can play CB as well as Elam, I don't think that's an ideal situation and I think we'd keep 6 CB for that reason. It's better to keep Levine at safety than CB. So I can see Jackson have value for that reason with his ST skills.

Edited May 17, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[GrimCoconut]

Special Teams: 3

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox [3]

Offense: 22

QB: Flacco, Schaub [2]

RB: Forsett, Allen, Taliaferro [3]

FB: Juszczyk [1]

TE: Pitta [PUP], Gillmore, Williams, Boyle [3]

OT: Monroe, Wagner, Hurst [3]

OG/C: Yanda, KO, Zuttah, Urschel, Myers [5]

WR: Perriman, Smith, Brown, Campanaro, Waller [5]

Defense: 22

DE: (5T) Canty/Tyson, Urban [3]

NT: (0T) Williams, Guy[2]

DT: (3T) Jernigan/Davis [2]

ILB: Mosley, Smith, Brown [3]

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Smith [4]

CB: Smith, Webb, Arrington, Melvin, Walker [5]

S: Hill, Lewis, Brooks [PUP], Levine [3]

That makes up 47 players I strongly believe make the team, leaving honest competition for the remaining 6 spots. Those remaining players will need to be versatile enough to play both ST and their respective position.

Safety: Elam, Perry, Trawick.

CB: Jacobs, Jackson, Greenwood.

WR: Butler, Carter, Aiken.

RB: Magee.

OL: Clausell, Easton, Jensen, Reid.

DL: Bilukidi, Lewis Moore.

OLB: Means.

ILB: McClellan, Orr.

That's pretty much the pretty the list of guys I see fighting for those last spots. I think it's going to take more than being a ST ace to make the team this year. I also think we'll seriously evaluate keeping young talent over older veterans if we can.

Edited May 17, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[tmc5349]

Special Teams: 3

ST: Tucker, Koch, Cox [3]

Offense: 22

QB: Flacco, Schaub [2]

RB: Forsett, Allen, Taliaferro [3]

FB: Juszczyk [1]

TE: Pitta [PUP], Gillmore, Williams, Boyle [3]

OT: Monroe, Wagner, Hurst [3]

OG/C: Yanda, KO, Zuttah, Urschel, Myers [5]

WR: Perriman, Smith, Brown, Campanaro, Waller, Carter [5]

Defense: 22

DE: (5T) Canty/Tyson, Urban [3]

NT: (0T) Williams, Guy[2]

DT: (3T) Jernigan/Davis [2]

ILB: Mosley, Smith, Brown [3]

OLB: Suggs, Dumervil, Upshaw, Smith [4]

CB: Smith, Webb, Arrington, Melvin, Walker [5]

S: Hill, Lewis, Brooks [PUP], Levine [3]

That makes up 47 players I strongly believe make the team, leaving honest competition for the remaining 6 spots. Those remaining players will need to be versatile enough to play both ST and their respective position.

Safety: Elam, Perry, Trawick.

CB: Jacobs, Jackson, Greenwood.

WR: Butler, Carter.

RB: Magee.

OL: Clausell, Easton, Jensen, Reid.

DL: Bilukidi, Lewis Moore.

OLB: Means.

ILB: McClellan, Orr.

That's pretty much the pretty the list of guys I see fighting for those last spots. I think it's going to take more than being a ST ace to make the team this year. I also think we'll seriously evaluate keeping young talent over older veterans if we can.

Im guessing that under WR you meant Carter to be Aiken, which would be 6. Other than that I completely agree with you.

[GrimCoconut]

Im guessing that under WR you meant Carter to be Aiken, which would be 6. Other than that I completely agree with you.

Good catch! I forgot to add Aiken after going back and forth. I put Aiken in the second group.

[omar586]

QB;

Flacco

Schaub

RB;

Forsett

Allen

Juszczyk

Taliaferro

WRs;

S Smith

M Brown

Perriman

Campanaro

Waller

De Andre Carter

Tackle;

Monroe

Wagner

Hurst

Guard;

Osemele

Yanda

Urschel

Myers

Center;

Zuttah

Jensen

TEs;

Pitta

M Williams

Gilmore

Boyle

DT;

B Williams

Davis

DE;

Jernigan

Lewis-Moore

Canty

Urban

OLB;

Dumervill

Suggs

Upshaw

Za'Darius Smith

ILB;

Mosley

D Smith

A Brown

McClellan

CB;

Webb

Smith

Arrington

Melvin

Walker

S;

Lewis

Hill

Perry

Elam

LS;

Cox

P;

Koch

K;

Tucker

i would keep the productive aiken, carter is enticing but i would try to stash him in PS, because we have camp, asa, fitz for KR/PR.

[Ravensfan23]

I think the 7 WR thing is very very optimistic. As talented as the WR group is some tough decisions will have to be made. I've dug into Marc Trestman's coaching past a bit. During every run he had as a NFL play caller, hes never used his 3rd WR as much. In only two season, with the Raiders and Bears, did he have a 3rd WR catch more then 25 passes. That was Jerry Porter and Earl Bennett. In most of his 8 seasons calling plays in the NFL, i only went back to 1998, be only had 4 players produce 30+ catches on the team. It was always 2 WRs a TE and a RB. In many of the seasons the 5th and 6th pass catchers were TEs and RB/FB.

So what that says to me is that Trestman doesn't really open the up often. Staying true to his comments after Mad Maxx was drafted, he looks to keep defenses in there base sets as much as possible and move them with play action and creativity. Because of this i can honestly see an emphasis placed on getting guys like Juice, Gilmore and Boyle involved in the offense much more the the likes of Aiken, Camp, Carter or Waller. That doesn't even count a guy like Buck who could see plenty opportunities in the pass game as a backup.

The more and more i think about it there arent many ways i can see the Ravens even considering keeping 7 WRs especially if Trestman stays true to form. He'll use more 2TE sets and get Juice more involved making guys like Camp nearly obsolete in the offense.

How do you validate keeping a 7th WR when you could find so much more value from an extra DB, DL or even a young pass rusher? It's gonna be interesting to see how this 53 shakes out

[GrimCoconut]

I think the 7 WR thing is very very optimistic. As talented as the WR group is some tough decisions will have to be made. I've dug into Marc Trestman's coaching past a bit. During every run he had as a NFL play caller, hes never used his 3rd WR as much. In only two season, with the Raiders and Bears, did he have a 3rd WR catch more then 25 passes. That was Jerry Porter and Earl Bennett. In most of his 8 seasons calling plays in the NFL, i only went back to 1998, be only had 4 players produce 30+ catches on the team. It was always 2 WRs a TE and a RB. In many of the seasons the 5th and 6th pass catchers were TEs and RB/FB.

So what that says to me is that Trestman doesn't really open the up often. Staying true to his comments after Mad Maxx was drafted, he looks to keep defenses in there base sets as much as possible and move them with play action and creativity. Because of this i can honestly see an emphasis placed on getting guys like Juice, Gilmore and Boyle involved in the offense much more the the likes of Aiken, Camp, Carter or Waller. That doesn't even count a guy like Buck who could see plenty opportunities in the pass game as a backup.

The more and more i think about it there arent many ways i can see the Ravens even considering keeping 7 WRs especially if Trestman stays true to form. He'll use more 2TE sets and get Juice more involved making guys like Camp nearly obsolete in the offense.

How do you validate keeping a 7th WR when you could find so much more value from an extra DB, DL or even a young pass rusher? It's gonna be interesting to see how this 53 shakes out

It's a tough year to predict without a question in my mind.

I think Waller could be used as a mismatch, mainly taking advantage of his size and straight speed in a Graham type of role. Not saying he'll be a TE but I think we'll use him in that way.