Kapron Lewis-Moore and Brent Urban

[757RavensFan]

Due to injuries and the recent additions in the draft, these two have kind of been forgotten.  Both have a lot of potential that has yet to be seen. I've even read that Urban was a poor man's JJ Watt.  If healthy, do you see these two in the mix?  I personally think KLM will be on the bubble trying to fight for a roster spot.  Gaining his explosiveness back after an Achille's rupture might be a huge challenge.

[ravensnick]

I personally think Urban will be groomed to eventually take that 5-Tech DE spot away from Canty. I think those two compare really well. Who knows with KLM. He's been injured for two years straight. Maybe he gets healthy or maybe we just cut him.

[The Raven]

I think KLM will be too rusty this season and will get cut.

 

Brent Urban has some competition, and it won't be easy for him, but I think he makes the team. I could see him, like Za'Darius, taking a McPhee type role. They were lining him up all over in camp last summer.

[Static]

I just don't see KLM beating out Laurence Guy or even Christo Biluki he needs a year on Practice Squad. 

[PurpleCity5]

Not to sure on KLM's future at all. I'm very optimistic for Urban doe

[GrimCoconut]

I don't have faith in KLM making the team but I wouldn't rule him out at all. With that said, I think he could make the team but it's an uphill battle. He's behind other guys in terms of development and experience. Now he's had a lot of time here so who knows, but I'll give him a chance and I know the Ravens will. Just not optimistic. I think he'll have a spot on the practice squad, though. If he makes it anyway. Someone with little DL depth could take him so who knows.

I think Urban has a role. I see him being used as a 3-4 DE but also as a 4-3 DE. I see his role being part of a rotation, like we always do, on the DL as a pass rusher. We did use him at OLB as well from what I recall reading from training camp, so we could well see him there as well.

[omar586]

Due to injuries and the recent additions in the draft, these two have kind of been forgotten.  Both have a lot of potential that has yet to be seen. I've even read that Urban was a poor man's JJ Watt.  If healthy, do you see these two in the mix?  I personally think KLM will be on the bubble trying to fight for a roster spot.  Gaining his explosiveness back after an Achille's rupture might be a huge challenge.

DL is loaded with talent, urban will replace canty, canty will b  cut, KLM injury is devastating for his career, but if he is healthy it gonna make ozzie's job a lot harder when cuts come around, 

 

the DL is deep, u have jernigan, williams, tyson, walker, guy, KLM, urban, davis, means, bilukidi. the raven gonna have to make difficult decisions.

Edited May 15, 2015 by omar586

[757RavensFan]

DL is loaded with talent, urban will replace canty, canty will b  cut, KLM injury is devastating for his career, but if he is healthy it gonna make ozzie's job a lot harder when cuts come around, 

 

the DL is deep, u have jernigan, williams, tyson, walker, guy, KLM, urban, davis, means, bilukidi. the raven gonna have to make difficult decisions.

 

Considering the fact that Urban has yet to play a single game, I'm not buying that he's going to be the day 1 starter and Canty released.

[Static]

Considering the fact that Urban has yet to play a single game, I'm not buying that he's going to be the day 1 starter and Canty released.

 

Wouldn't take much imho. Canty almost retired this offseason and he got cut Feb 27th before being re-signed.

[omar586]

Considering the fact that Urban has yet to play a single game, I'm not buying that he's going to be the day 1 starter and Canty released.

 

the DL is loaded with young talent, FO might want see what the young players have to offer for the future.

[jdynamite]

I've been waiting for some updates on their health situations.

Hope these 2 guys along with Davis can make a solid contribution to our D.

[omar586]

the D is loaded , deep,

[rmw10]

I think Urban is pretty safe and will see himself in a rotational role this year.  KLM, on the other hand, has some work to do to make the roster.  I really like the guy, but it's hard to count on him when he's been out of football for nearly two and a half years, minus a short stint in the offseason last year.

[Yatagarasu]

NFL career is short.

Also injuries are part of the game, so we can only hope for the best when healthy.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Brent Urban has been my pick for breakout player since the season ended.

KLM - loved the potential but those 2 injuries are tough. He did look really good last offseason though so you never know. We say he's been out of football which is true as far as game action goes but we don't know what he's been doing at the facility. Granted there's only so much you can do without pads, contact and other players to create competitive situations - but he could be in absolutely incredible shape.

Drafting Davis and with Guy playing well last year it's going to be tough for KLM but I won't count him out.

[Maryland]

Obviously KLM will depend on how far he has come along in rehabbing his achilles tear. If the season is about to start and he needs more time to recover they could stash him on PUP and come to a decision later (in the event someone else gets hurt early). -that's what they did with Terrance Cody one year, I think.

 

If I remember correctly, it sounded like KLM was safe to make the roster as a solid rotational player last year. He was having an above-average training camp. If he can regain that form I think he'll find a spot. It's not like Canty or Guy are anything more than solid depth, and neither has upside for the future. KLM, meanwhile, has some upside, I think. Canty provides no pass rush anymore and tends to pick up nagging injuries all season, while Guy is just a guy. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone among Canty, Guy, or KLM are cut (we are minimally invested in all of them), but I still think KLM makes the roster if healthy. 

 

Urban is a no-brainer. He will have a major impact if he can regain his form last season. Supposedly he was tearing it up in camp before going down. 

Edited May 16, 2015 by Maryland

[jazz1988]

I think Deangelo Tyson has been forgotten as well

[Ravn5592]

I still trust KLM and here's why, He didn't sustain two "similar" major injuries in a row. I know an ACL and achilies are both huge injuries to come back from individually, but they are just that... individual injuries. The amount of talent and/or dedication level he has are apparent to me in the fact that he seems to be still working hard to recuperate.

[GrimCoconut]

I still trust KLM and here's why, He didn't sustain two "similar" major injuries in a row. I know an ACL and achilies are both huge injuries to come back from individually, but they are just that... individual injuries. The amount of talent and/or dedication level he has are apparent to me in the fact that he seems to be still working hard to recuperate.

2011: detached MCL vs USC. http://irish.nbcsports.com/2011/10/25/lewis-moore-lost-for-year-with-knee-injury/

2013: torn ACL vs Alabama. http://www.uhnd.com/articles/football/kapron-lewismoore-suffers-acl-injury-title-game-12455/

2014: torn Achilles tendon in practice. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Kapron-Lewis-Moore-Suffers-Season-Ending-Achilles-Injury/2a57a3f4-1a73-4950-97fb-e9f250d75abd

I'm a fan of Lewis Moore and was before we drafted him, but his history of leg, and knee injuries in particular, are very concerning. I'm hopeful but not very optimistic.

[harfordravenfan]

I just don't see KLM beating out Laurence Guy or even Christo Biluki he needs a year on Practice Squad.

IMO, I think a healthy klm could outplay either but unfortunately injuries stopped him from proving me right (or wrong)

[ellicottraven]

I don't know about KLM making the team quite honestly. With Bilukidi being signed to a contract earlier on and KLM's injury history, it would really depend on KLM coming back stronger than ever and executing on the field the mental reps he's had from the last couple of years...

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Obviously KLM will depend on how far he has come along in rehabbing his achilles tear. If the season is about to start and he needs more time to recover they could stash him on PUP and come to a decision later (in the event someone else gets hurt early). -that's what they did with Terrance Cody one year, I think.

If I remember correctly, it sounded like KLM was safe to make the roster as a solid rotational player last year. He was having an above-average training camp. If he can regain that form I think he'll find a spot. It's not like Canty or Guy are anything more than solid depth, and neither has upside for the future. KLM, meanwhile, has some upside, I think. Canty provides no pass rush anymore and tends to pick up nagging injuries all season, while Guy is just a guy. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone among Canty, Guy, or KLM are cut (we are minimally invested in all of them), but I still think KLM makes the roster if healthy.

Urban is a no-brainer. He will have a major impact if he can regain his form last season. Supposedly he was tearing it up in camp before going down.

You're also forgetting Bilukudi (sp?) in that group. Another rotational guy who provides depth but limited upside. I think he is who he is at this point but does provide depth you can count on.

I truly think Canty is safe since he's really the only guy in the group that has tons of experience, years in the system and can provide the veteran leadership to the position group and in the classroom.

IMO Canty, Williams, Jernigan, and Davis are locks to make the 53. Tyson and Urban are pretty close to locks unless something unforeseen like injury or a couple of the bubble players really explode on the scene.

That leaves KLM, Guy, Bilukudi and the group of UDFA's battling it out for the remaining spots. Who makes it depends a lot on how many we end up taking, performance in camp/preseason and experience. Right now I think Guy and Bilukidi have the edge since they performed well for us last year.

I forget how many we took last year, but is it out of the realm of possibilities to take all 9? That's a lot for one position group especially when you consider that Suggs, Doom, Upshaw and Za'Darius all could see snaps as a DE (or even the interior with Upshaw and Z on passing downs) in 4-3 fronts.

Edited May 16, 2015 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I think Deangelo Tyson has been forgotten as well

I don't know if he's being forgotten so much as he's being viewed as a potential lock to make the squad and the conversation tends to circle around the guys that are anticipated to be starters, breakout players, and guys that are on the roster bubble.

Tyson doesn't really fit anywhere in those categories. He's not likely to be a starter with the guys we have in front of him. Hes been here a while now so in all likelihood we know who he is and what to expect from him, and between the need for experience and accountable depth along the line I would think Tyson is a near lock to make the team unless Urban, Davis, KLM, Guy, and Bulikidi all out play him in training camp and preseason.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Due to injuries and the recent additions in the draft, these two have kind of been forgotten.  Both have a lot of potential that has yet to be seen. I've even read that Urban was a poor man's JJ Watt.  If healthy, do you see these two in the mix?  I personally think KLM will be on the bubble trying to fight for a roster spot.  Gaining his explosiveness back after an Achille's rupture might be a huge challenge.

I forgot about these guys thanks for reminding me. I believe KLM has an up-hill battle to fight and I wish him all the best and as far as Urban if I remember right he was comming on strong before his injury.

[52N19]

I haven't forgotten these two. They will be needed to fortify the DL that has taken a hit since nghata left. I don't know why people are down on KLM. He had a good preseason last year and has the measurables.

[omar586]

urban and KLM can b easly stashed in PS.

[GrimCoconut]

urban and KLM can b easly stashed in PS.

These kind of statements bother me. How can you say that? I don't think Urban clears waivers. Lewis-Moore may, but I really don't see Urban passing unclaimed. He's got a huge upside. I also don't think it matters because I do not see him cut. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

These kind of statements bother me. How can you say that? I don't think Urban clears waivers. Lewis-Moore may, but I really don't see Urban passing unclaimed. He's got a huge upside. I also don't think it matters because I do not see him cut.

Yep no way Urban would make it through waivers, especially after this coming preseason.

Don't know why it'd even be suggested considering we'll need the depth on the line. Pretty sure he would have made the 53 last year if not for his injury and if he's healthy I think it's all but guaranteed he makes it this year.

Actually I'll go as far as to say I think Urban over takes Canty as the starter at DE by games 4-6. He's my candidate for breakout player of the year.

[omar586]

These kind of statements bother me. How can you say that? I don't think Urban clears waivers. Lewis-Moore may, but I really don't see Urban passing unclaimed. He's got a huge upside. I also don't think it matters because I do not see him cut. 

injured and hasn't played a snap in NFL.

[GrimCoconut]

injured and hasn't played a snap in NFL.

So I guess Clowney could be stashed on the practice squad, too, huh?