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[News] Ravens Reach Agreement With Cornerback Kyle Arrington

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finally getting rid of Jimmie Smith YAHOOOO

 

Who the heck is "Jimmie Smith"?

 

I'm glad though you are willing to keep Jimmy Smith around. So terribly kind of you.

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We're so stacked, name one weakness this team has.

If I had to guess. running back. No proven backup.

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If I had to guess. running back. No proven backup.

 

Well, if the lack of proven backup is a problem (and I agree) then TE should also be named. Yup, we got Maxx Williams and Boyle, but we don't know how much we can count on Pitta - and there's no real "proven" depth behind him other than Gillmore, who even by his own admission, is much rather a blocking TE than a catching one.

 

Also, catching TE's typically take at least a season to really catch on, even if they are really good. Pitta wasn't much of a factor in his rookie season. Dickson had little playing time (although he took the most out of it) in his rookie season. Even Heap, though real useful, wasn't much like what he would became eventually, in his rookie season. Or we could take a more recent example of Ebron, who really struggled, because he was treated like a plug-in player who would be a key contributor from day 1 - and he couldn't be. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Maxx took some time to become what we all hope and trust he will. And if it happens - and Pitta can't come back or be the same he was before his injuries...

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Well, if the lack of proven backup is a problem (and I agree) then TE should also be named. Yup, we got Maxx Williams and Boyle, but we don't know how much we can count on Pitta - and there's no real "proven" depth behind him other than Gillmore, who even by his own admission, is much rather a blocking TE than a catching one.

 

Also, catching TE's typically take at least a season to really catch on, even if they are really good. Pitta wasn't much of a factor in his rookie season. Dickson had little playing time (although he took the most out of it) in his rookie season. Even Heap, though real useful, wasn't much like what he would became eventually, in his rookie season. Or we could take a more recent example of Ebron, who really struggled, because he was treated like a plug-in player who would be a key contributor from day 1 - and he couldn't be. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Maxx took some time to become what we all hope and trust he will. And if it happens - and Pitta can't come back or be the same he was before his injuries...

Yeah we added some offensive players, like we should have. But right now, we really don't know a ton about our offense at all.

 

We know we have Joe, and we're pretty sure we have a solid O-line. Do we know for sure that Forsett will be a great back again for us with a new OC? I don't.

 

Do I have supreme confidence in our passing weapons? Not really. You could argue that Perriman and Williams might be our most "talented" pass catchers and they've never caught a ball in the NFL before. They could both struggle heavily in year 1, and it wouldn't surprise me nor should it surprise anybody else.

 

Our offense, particularly given we have yet another new OC, is still a pretty large question mark if you ask me. There's talent and particularly young talent, but that doesn't necessarily translate into production.

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Yeah we added some offensive players, like we should have. But right now, we really don't know a ton about our offense at all.

We know we have Joe, and we're pretty sure we have a solid O-line. Do we know for sure that Forsett will be a great back again for us with a new OC? I don't.

Do I have supreme confidence in our passing weapons? Not really. You could argue that Perriman and Williams might be our most "talented" pass catchers and they've never caught a ball in the NFL before. They could both struggle heavily in year 1, and it wouldn't surprise me nor should it surprise anybody else.

Our offense, particularly given we have yet another new OC, is still a pretty large question mark if you ask me. There's talent and particularly young talent, but that doesn't necessarily translate into production.

everything you say makes sense - it doesn't necessarily mean we will be productive - but it doesn't mean we won't be even more productive than last year either. They might be unproven - but undoubtably the potential is there. You may not be confident in our offense - I am. I believe joe will bring out the best in these guys and that this will be the year he truly elevates his game and has the numbers to back it up. All he has been missing is a few big body targets and some guys that will make YAC. The last time we had Dennis pitta for an entire season was the year we won the Super Bowl. I think it was pretty clear that was his favorite target and his absence really left a void. The departure of Anquan didn't help either. But with what we have now - combined with joe having another year of experience under his belt to improve physically and mentally - paired with trestmans style of offense to really let joe just sling the ball down feild - amazing things can happen. Sure there's always a chance things don't start out well - and injuries could stunt things - but until that happens I'm Hoppin on the optimistic bandwagon and I will ride it all the way to Super Bowl 50 baby. I also firmly believe that what we saw from Forsett was not an abberation. I saw this guy throughout his career- and when he was behind marshawn lynch in Seattle I could tell he had the potential to be a star if he wasn't in the shadow of another. All he needed was a shot and he capitalized. Now if he gets injured that's another story. I'm not sold on our backups at the position- although I think buck kind of reminds me of BP during our 2012 postseason run. Injuries can always change things- so let's just try to make it through camp before we get too excited- but if we stay healthy- I think we have an extremely good chance to be Lombardi contenders .
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everything you say makes sense - it doesn't necessarily mean we will be productive - but it doesn't mean we won't be even more productive than last year either. They might be unproven - but undoubtably the potential is there. You may not be confident in our offense - I am. I believe joe will bring out the best in these guys and that this will be the year he truly elevates his game and has the numbers to back it up. All he has been missing is a few big body targets and some guys that will make YAC. The last time we had Dennis pitta for an entire season was the year we won the Super Bowl. I think it was pretty clear that was his favorite target and his absence really left a void. The departure of Anquan didn't help either. But with what we have now - combined with joe having another year of experience under his belt to improve physically and mentally - paired with trestmans style of offense to really let joe just sling the ball down feild - amazing things can happen. Sure there's always a chance things don't start out well - and injuries could stunt things - but until that happens I'm Hoppin on the optimistic bandwagon and I will ride it all the way to Super Bowl 50 baby. I also firmly believe that what we saw from Forsett was not an abberation. I saw this guy throughout his career- and when he was behind marshawn lynch in Seattle I could tell he had the potential to be a star if he wasn't in the shadow of another. All he needed was a shot and he capitalized. Now if he gets injured that's another story. I'm not sold on our backups at the position- although I think buck kind of reminds me of BP during our 2012 postseason run. Injuries can always change things- so let's just try to make it through camp before we get too excited- but if we stay healthy- I think we have an extremely good chance to be Lombardi contenders .

Cool. It's May for me. I'm, at a minimum, 4-5 months away from even having an opinion about whether we are a SB contender or a mediocre team.

 

Potential is a great thing, especially when its realized. But the main concept of potential is that its generally long-term, which is how I think Ravens fans should be looking at this team.

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Still like the product that we are putting on the field but I do recognize potential areas that could present a problem. However... I have to give Ozzie credit.... in all of those areas we really only need one or two guys to step up.

1. RB... if Frosett don't... we have LT and Buck

2. TE... if Pitta cannot... we have Maxx, Gilmore and Boyle that may

3. WR...If Steve Smith or Perriman falter... we have Marlon, Kamar, Camp, etc

4. DL... if Timmy or Canty struggle... we have Davis and Urban, KLM, etc

In all of these areas it appears as if our FO has prepared us for the success regardless of is it comes from the expected sources or not. I really like our roster right now...

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Cool. It's May for me. I'm, at a minimum, 4-5 months away from even having an opinion about whether we are a SB contender or a mediocre team.

 

Potential is a great thing, especially when its realized. But the main concept of potential is that its generally long-term, which is how I think Ravens fans should be looking at this team.

 

Plus,... EVERYBODY is a "Super Bowl Contender" and has "potential" every year,... on May 14th!

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WE know Brady's habits, we dont need Kyle Arrington for that. How you think we blow them out so often?

ravens blow out the patriots... when did this happen? ravens have been victorious a couple times, at key times, but have not blown them out. patriots like short quick play over the middle and quick throws to a receiver in short yardage. then when you think you got it they do some sort of a trick play type. arrington will be helpful in this very situation.

 

might want to recheck those blow out stats again.... 

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ravens blow out the patriots... when did this happen? ravens have been victorious a couple times, at key times, but have not blown them out. patriots like short quick play over the middle and quick throws to a receiver in short yardage. then when you think you got it they do some sort of a trick play type. arrington will be helpful in this very situation.

 

might want to recheck those blow out stats again.... 

I think most are referring to the 2010 playoff game (2009 season) in NE, where we won by 19 and led by 24 at one point. Also, some considered the 2012 AFC title game win to be rather one sided, particularly in the second half. We won that game by 15, and by playoff standards, a 15 point win is basically a "blowout".

 

The 4 playoff games (all in NE) that we've played them in, we've outscored them 112-85, and we have two 15+ point victories over them. The two games they beat us they won by a combined 7 points.

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Cool. It's May for me. I'm, at a minimum, 4-5 months away from even having an opinion about whether we are a SB contender or a mediocre team.

 

Potential is a great thing, especially when its realized. But the main concept of potential is that its generally long-term, which is how I think Ravens fans should be looking at this team.

I am not saying we are a Super Bowl team, I am just saying I personally believe that we are finally out of rebuilding mode for the first time since our SB team.  Obviously we are always trying to build, but we finally have stability and depth at every position.  We still need to figure out our situation at PR/KR, but we have all summer to take care of that.  I just think as of now, on paper, we are a top contender in the AFC.

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However improbable it may sound now, Mount Cody could do that in his rookie season. Here's hoping Brandon won't go copycat on Cody's career.

I don't remember Cody ever doing that maybe I wasn't watching close enough. The ONLY play I rememer Cody for is the hit on Jamal Charles.

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ravens blow out the patriots... when did this happen? ravens have been victorious a couple times, at key times, but have not blown them out. patriots like short quick play over the middle and quick throws to a receiver in short yardage. then when you think you got it they do some sort of a trick play type. arrington will be helpful in this very situation.

 

might want to recheck those blow out stats again.... 

actually Ravens have blown the Pats out twice in the past 5 or so years at Gillette in the playoffs. I think that might have been what he meant

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I think that this kind of signing is far better than throwing too much money at a FA CB early in the offseason. It looks like our biggest weakness in the playoffs is starting to look like a strength now.

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I am not saying we are a Super Bowl team, I am just saying I personally believe that we are finally out of rebuilding mode for the first time since our SB team.  Obviously we are always trying to build, but we finally have stability and depth at every position.  We still need to figure out our situation at PR/KR, but we have all summer to take care of that.  I just think as of now, on paper, we are a top contender in the AFC.

Very likely may be the case. I just think we are essentially in year 1 out of the rebuilding mode, and fans need to understand that, so that if we don't win the SB or advance as far as some think we should, fans don't pull their typical "crazy" card and demand for us to blow the whole thing up... again.

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The two things I hope fore this season. One Joe never gets hurt and two the secondary studies/works their butts off and well be fine.

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Behind Jimi Smith....hell no...Smith will behind arrington, for sure. He is good!

you must be on one. Neither one of them have to be behind either. Arrington will play the slot. But if that was the case I assure you our highest paid corner that we just extended would be infront of Arrington.
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ravens blow out the patriots... when did this happen? ravens have been victorious a couple times, at key times, but have not blown them out. patriots like short quick play over the middle and quick throws to a receiver in short yardage. then when you think you got it they do some sort of a trick play type. arrington will be helpful in this very situation.

 

might want to recheck those blow out stats again....

ahhh, i see, you joined our bandwagon yesterday.

Ravens are 2-2 against the Pats since 2008.

Both wins (http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=330120017 and http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=300110017) were blowouts.

Meanwhile both losses were by a collective 7 points.

i dont have to check anything, i actually pay attention to my team...especially while they're winning the super bowl.

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