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Ravens sign CB Kyle Arrington

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i'm excited about this signing as any ravens fan, but some writer brought up an intersting point, from this article from Russell street report , why would the pats release the CB? whats the reason ? they couldn't have released him b/c of $3 mill?  hmmm........................

 

It's just Belichick's M.O. Arrington was owed $4.5M in 2015 and it was a combination of BB not valuing him at that amount and wanting to open up more playing opportunities for their young corners to get them ready to be starters long term.

 

I mean we got him on the open market for $2.5M a year so that does corroborate BB feeling he had cheaper alternatives who just needed an opportunity to play and develop. Ozzie actually has made similar moves like trading Boldin and Ngata, didn't mean they both couldn't still play at a high level, we just felt like we had cheaper alternatives who needed an opportunity so they could help us in the long term and save some money in the process. Luckily our players had a trade market for how much we owed them and the Pats couldn't move Arrington on his current contract (Which makes sense because he went for significantly less on the open market).

 

The Pats wouldn't have saved nearly as much if they re-structured him and it also wouldn't allow them to give their young corners more game reps. It makes sense from NE's point of view but it's also a great addition for our defense.

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You can't deny it being a good move, if the guys infront of him don't see a decline in play.  Needed a slot corner and now we have one.  Just need to make sure, Arrington stays in the slot.

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When the Pats released Dennard, I said to some of my coworkers, man I wish that would have been Arrington I feel like we would go after him if he became available, watching a lot of pats games I felt like they were always talking about him back in the secondary. So having said that I like the move,  and I think this is an important singing for us if everyone stays relatively healthy.  First choice for me would have been to find another long vet corner like jimmy to put on the outside and move Ladarius inside where he plays very well.  But if you don't do that and you bring in another slot corner, he better be pretty darn good, and Arrington is one of the best slot corners playing right now, who has started 56 games in his career, for one of the best teams in the league.  He is a smart and aggressive player.  No, he is not Darrell Revis but we aren't paying him like he is Revis, we are getting a good player for cheap, that adds depth to a position of need.  For me, this is one of the beautiful things about being a Batlimore Ravens fan...these are the types of signings that we get excited about.  While everyone else throws ridiculous money at big time players, we sit back and wait and get solid players to provide depth for a hopeful SB run

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I'm not singing kumbaya till I see our secondary play a few games. Until than its very questionable.  We've got 2 good corners with questionable health and everyone else leaves more to be desired thus far.

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Coverage assignments:

 

Jimmy Smith - Best/tall receiver (Demaryius, Amari Cooper, AJ, Antonio Brown, Torrey, D. Parker, Larry Fitz, Baldwin)

Lardarius Webb - Nifty, savvy veteran receiver (Boldin, Stills, Baldwin, Jennings, Kearse)

Kyle Arrington - Shifty slot receiver (John Brown, Sanu, Wheaton, Jarvis Landry, E. Sanders, Keenan)

Rashaan Melvin - Tall receiver (Martavius Bryant, Michael Floyd, C. Latimer, Bowe, Quick, Chris Matthews)

Asa Jackson (Depth)

Tray Walker (Depth)

 

Will Hill - Receiving TE (Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, Jordan Cameron, Heath, Lance Kendricks, Julius Thomas, Eifert)

Kendrick Lewis - Roaming the backfield

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Yeah, it definitely seems puzzling: Revis, Browner, Dennard and Arrington are all gone. It's even harder to make sense of this, especially when New England lacked quality cornerback play for years until greatly improving the position in 2014.

 

They're basically running with the likes of Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan, Bradley Fletcher, Robert McClain and some guy named Chimdi Chekwa, this season. You could very easily call that group "The Legion of Whom"...

lol, love it

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I really like the move as long as he stays in the slot or we coach the Hell out of him and improve him on the outside. The games I saw with him last year as an outside CB were very bad. Hopefully he doesn't need to play outside, though.

I actually really like the move. If he plays well in the slot, like he's expected, then we aren't hand cuffed to keeping Webb if he continues to look poor. Hopefully that's not the case and we have our own legion of boom.

Understand where you are going with that, but we need our own nickname.

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the first part of your post is very accurate. he is not that good.

He's very good in the slot though and these days having a slot corner is extremely important  We are definitely going to be a tough out next year and a very competitive team.  This COULD put us over the top.  You don't need to be so negative.

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a typical kool aid drinker.. not really, i just know for a fact, that we had issues on this team, and we did a hell of a job addressing them, are you saying we didnt? look you can call every signing or draft pick a bad one, doesnt mean you can say "i told ya so" when a few of them actually turn out to be bad. ozzie stuck to his formula, which has turned this team into a perennial powerhouse for the past 7 seasons with 1 blemish in that long span, and what he has done this offseason looks like some of his best work to date, and you are sitting here telling people that they shouldnt be excited because you personally think kyle arrington doesnt offer enough. the kyle arrington signing alone doesnt boost this team, the entire offseason we've had gives a very positive outlook, you just refuse to acknowledge it

Exactly

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As long as Arrington wasn't released for some crazy underlying injury or something I think this is a pretty big and underrated signing that completely rounds out the secondary.

Maybe he was the real deflator????

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Coverage assignments:

 

Jimmy Smith - Best/tall receiver (Demaryius, Amari Cooper, AJ, Antonio Brown, Torrey, D. Parker, Larry Fitz, Baldwin)

Lardarius Webb - Nifty, savvy veteran receiver (Boldin, Stills, Baldwin, Jennings, Kearse)

Kyle Arrington - Shifty slot receiver (John Brown, Sanu, Wheaton, Jarvis Landry, E. Sanders, Keenan)

Rashaan Melvin - Tall receiver (Martavius Bryant, Michael Floyd, C. Latimer, Bowe, Quick, Chris Matthews)

Asa Jackson (Depth)

Tray Walker (Depth)

 

Will Hill - Receiving TE (Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, Jordan Cameron, Heath, Lance Kendricks, Julius Thomas, Eifert)

Kendrick Lewis - Roaming the backfield

nice and concise

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This signing, to me, is mostly exciting because it really solidifies one of the few areas where I felt we were lacking in depth.  Obviously you never know when or how injuries are going to affect you (how many CBs did we lose last year???), but as of this moment the only question mark I see is our defensive line...and even then, we haven't seen them play and they could very well be as good as last year even with the loss of Ngata.

 

Arrington provides solid depth and a very reasonable price.  I still haven't seen the yearly breakdown of his contract, but I hope he's here for more than one year.  We have a bunch of young talent at CB who could benefit tremendously from working with a veteran in the league.  Kyle isn't a loud mouth, he isn't a show off, he goes out and gets his job done (when he's in the slot).  Hopefully he'll be about to help kids like Melvin improve their game so that they can be counted on when the time comes.

 

EDIT: Also, looking at our roster on paper (I know, it's just paper), the only area that I see us as worse than last year is d-line and we haven't even seen them play yet.  Everything else (once again, only on paper) looks like its been upgraded.

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Love the signing from two sides. First it shows the FO really identified the issue at CB and attacked it. I could see this like a Doom signing. He's not really a stud but he could be the piece that really glues the defense together because there won't be any weak links.

The second reason i love it is for the same reason i applauded the Lewis signing at Safety. It gives the younger guys at CB a real chance to develop without being asked to play a major role. Now of course injuries could change that but as of right now you have guy like Melvin battling for the 4th or 5th CB who will only see limited action.

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I like the signing but what does this mean for Webb? I kinda like when Pees would get creative with Webb and move him in the nickel/slot and ask him to cover the slot receivers or blitz  while our much taller corners cover those tall/bigger outside receivers either in press or man coverage.

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I like the signing but what does this mean for Webb? I kinda like when Pees would get creative with Webb and move him in the nickel/slot and ask him to cover the slot receivers or blitz while our much taller corners cover those tall/bigger outside receivers either in press or man coverage.

You can still use Webb to blitz. In fact, I think you could use both Webb and Arrington on the field simultaneously where one blitzes and the other drops, or perhaps both drop into coverage with a guy like Hill manning up on the WR.
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I think Arrington's perceived struggles playing outside are a bit overblown. He may be a bit undersized, but he is physical and can press. He actually played a decent number of snaps last season outside and fared decently. He's much better in the slot for sure, but he can play all over.

He can but I base my opinion off of the games I saw. He might've done well outside but I remember the games I watched that he didn't play well at all on the outside. Then again, hey, maybe he just had some rough games and those were the ones I saw. I didn't watch the Patriots as much as the Ravens last year. I certainly didn't catch a lot of football games, but I saw about four games they played off the top of my head.

Maybe you're right. Just going off of what I've seen last year. I remember him playing better outside the year before that, however.

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Coverage assignments:

Jimmy Smith - Best/tall receiver (Demaryius, Amari Cooper, AJ, Antonio Brown, Torrey, D. Parker, Larry Fitz, Baldwin)

Lardarius Webb - Nifty, savvy veteran receiver (Boldin, Stills, Baldwin, Jennings, Kearse)

Kyle Arrington - Shifty slot receiver (John Brown, Sanu, Wheaton, Jarvis Landry, E. Sanders, Keenan)

Rashaan Melvin - Tall receiver (Martavius Bryant, Michael Floyd, C. Latimer, Bowe, Quick, Chris Matthews)

Asa Jackson (Depth)

Tray Walker (Depth)

Will Hill - Receiving TE (Jimmy Graham, Antonio Gates, Jordan Cameron, Heath, Lance Kendricks, Julius Thomas, Eifert)

Kendrick Lewis - Roaming the backfield

that's a tall order for jimmy - but if anybody can handle the task it's him if he stays healthy.
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I like the signing but what does this mean for Webb? I kinda like when Pees would get creative with Webb and move him in the nickel/slot and ask him to cover the slot receivers or blitz  while our much taller corners cover those tall/bigger outside receivers either in press or man coverage.

 

I honestly think Elam starts to man that role a bit. As unpopular as he might be right now, I think he'll thrive in that role. Maybe not to the extent that Webb did because Elam shouldn't be ask to cover many WRs or TEs right now, but more like a Corey Ivy or Digg his first year. That 3rd safety Dime back type role, Blitzing, covering shallow crosses and underneath coverage, maybe as a spy against pass catching RBs. Elam has a ton of talent and I think he'd be great in this limited role. 

 

Webb's role will remain imo and at his best I think he plays just as well outside as he does inside. So i don't think he'll be negatively impacted by this signing. It just give Pees more options on the back end and when he has healthy options he calls a pretty strong defensive game. 

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After just watching his presser, I am very impressed with Kyle Arrington. He seems ridiculously happy to be a Raven and come home!

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Webb better be ready to play on the outside for the whole game or Melvin will be the #2 corner by week.

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I'm just so happy we picked up a couple defensive backs this offseason who can tackle. Missed tackles in the secondary make me want to throw heavy things at breakable objects, and my disposable income is limited.

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Were you in a cave?

12-hour shifts are the worst

I think all the pinned threads messed me up too haha

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Didnt know Kyle Arrington's offseason home was in Baltimore. Guess he's gonna be here all season long now

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Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider · 2h 2 hours ago

Kyle Arrington passed his physical and has signed his three-year contract that averages $2.5 million per year and includes $2 million bonus

Jeff Zrebiec @jeffzrebiecsun · 1h 1 hour ago

Contract includes $2.8 million guaranteed ($2 million signing bonus and 800,000 first year salary)

Brian McFarland ‏@RavensSalaryCap · 2m2 minutes ago

With a $2M bonus and a $800K base salary for 2015 (as reported), CB Kyle Arrington will have a 2015 Cap number of $1,466,666.

Brian McFarland ‏@RavensSalaryCap · 6m6 minutes ago

With Arrington now signed, Ravens should be ~$7.385M under the Cap at this point. http://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/

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