Ravens sign CB Kyle Arrington

[FlackAttack]

how about you look at the big picture without the pessimistic attitude. who is saying we will win the super bowl? were talking about the real possibility of it, and yes, the possibility is very real. so suddenly anytime we get optimistic we need to pump the brakes because that makes us un-knowledgeable and we arent level headed? if so then im glad i dont have your attitude, homie.

 

my original point was a reply to a poster that posted "super bowl champions 2016".. you should understand what conversations are about before you prematurely jump into them, not because youre overly excited about an average pickup of an average player. smdh.

[GrimCoconut]

Like I said I have not watched enough game film on him to give an honest assesment but you are not the only one talking about him on the outside. I just think he will be better in Baltimore than he was in New England we have that swag thing going for us.. You sure are right about the tackling aspect though. I believe we are definitly a better team than we were 24 hours ago.

Yeah I agree with you 100% btw. Just saying what I think. I'm happy we got him. We could've done a lot worse...like nothing. Lol. He provides veteran depth and even if he doesn't start, which I doubt, he's good on ST. Great move all around.

[JoeyFlex5]

my original point was a reply to a poster that posted "super bowl champions 2016".. you should understand what conversations are about before you prematurely jump into them, not because youre overly excited about an average pickup of an average player. smdh.

i saw the post, i understood what it was about, i think its pretty obvious nobody here is declaring that its a 100% chance that we win the super bowl purely because we signed kyle arrington, maybe you shouldnt take things so literally. and by the way, i dont know how this is an average signing, ozzie showed patience because he didnt see value in free agency or in the draft, and while the fanbase was howling for a cb, he didnt budge, and then found a solid veteran slot corner who can come in and contribute in a big way for cheap and not counting against the comp pick formula, so exactly how average is this pick? 

 

you must be sami84 on another account, your pessimism is unreal, its not even pessimism, its just naysaying a good signing for the hell of it.

[mmcclend]

any knowledgeable, level-headed football fan will never say their team will win a super bowl during the month of may before the season even starts. i dont care if youre a fan of the patriots, broncos, seahawks, packers, etc. its the month of may.. we have two rookies replacing solid starters from last year on offense. we have no idea how kendrick lewis will shape up our secondary yet. OTAs havent even started. lean back a bit, enjoy the offseason with practical foresight, and look at the big picture without your purple shades, homie.

How can yall jump down this guys throat when he's absolutely right. All of these pickups can go either way. When we signed Michael huff people like the guy he's addressing were all like "aww yeah who we have Ed reeds replacement" on the contrary, we got dumerville and he exceeded expectations. Look, I'm as big of a ravens fan as the next guy and I hope we win the bowl this year too but to declare it at this point in time is pure ignorance. We have a lot of work to do. Who knows who will get injured? Suspended? Not work out? Surprise us. Say something like that after week 4.

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[mmcclend]

my original point was a reply to a poster that posted "super bowl champions 2016".. you should understand what conversations are about before you prematurely jump into them, not because youre overly excited about an average pickup of an average player. smdh.

Don't even trip bro some guys on here don't know how to be objective and a fan at the same time. We sign Kyle Arrington and suddenly we are "Super Bowl champs" not contenders, but "champs." And they're bashing people who bring them back down to earth lmao hilarious. They act like we just made a trade for Sherman or something.

[JoeyFlex5]

you constantly screaming pessimism is only proving that you are a typical kool aid drinker. you must be influenced to do things very easily.

a typical kool aid drinker.. not really, i just know for a fact, that we had issues on this team, and we did a hell of a job addressing them, are you saying we didnt? look you can call every signing or draft pick a bad one, doesnt mean you can say "i told ya so" when a few of them actually turn out to be bad. ozzie stuck to his formula, which has turned this team into a perennial powerhouse for the past 7 seasons with 1 blemish in that long span, and what he has done this offseason looks like some of his best work to date, and you are sitting here telling people that they shouldnt be excited because you personally think kyle arrington doesnt offer enough. the kyle arrington signing alone doesnt boost this team, the entire offseason we've had gives a very positive outlook, you just refuse to acknowledge it

[baltimorefan328]

I think this is a huge signing just for pure depth purposes. These are all assumptions as everyone must make so getting past the fact these are assumptions:

 

Having Will Hill back there from the beginning of the season and thinking that Kendrick Lewis will bring at least some level of improved play to the safety position gives me a lot of confidence. I know Webb wasn't playing super well on the outside even towards the end of the season but he has such a lack of talent around him. If Jimmy is healthy, the side of the field with Jimmy is borderline locked down. They can give Webb some outside help if he needs it especially because a guy like Arrington can play effectively in the slot. This essentially leaves one safety free in 3 WR sets and with Smith and Mosely (and im hoping something from Brown) we have some decent cover linebackers as well. As long as Arrington wasn't released for some crazy underlying injury or something I think this is a pretty big and underrated signing that completely rounds out the secondary.

 

And if someone does get hurt and Melvin has to step in on the outside, I'm not confident but I do think he can play somewhat effectively in a few game stretch especially with the overall improvement of the entire secondary. If one guy goes down, having Arrington really does make the entire secondary better able to handle an injury at the CB position (god forbid it doesnt happen) because having that slot cornerback playing effectively is so big in todays game

[1/28/01]

you constantly screaming pessimism is only proving that you are a typical kool aid drinker. you must be influenced to do things very easily.

Who is constantly pissing in your Cheerios?

[3-4ravdef509]

Who is constantly pissing in your Cheerios?

That is my absolute favorite saying

[Purple Nurple]

Who is constantly pissing in your Cheerios?

Seriously. Get a room, fellas.

I'm loving this offseason so far. I'm certainly not crowning us champions because that's not my style. But honestly, who cares if someone is overly enthusiastic and excited?!? Let it go. Live and let live.

[Tyler]

This meme has been used quite often, but it definitely sums up this home-run of an offseason. For the haters....

[Purple Nurple]

Lol. I'm just saying. I come here to further educate myself by reading posts from people more knowledgable than me, not listen to men bicker over pointless opinions.

[codizzle]

Lol. I'm just saying. I come here to further educate myself by reading posts from people more knowledgable than me, not listen to men bicker over pointless opinions.

Well then I'll start posting more for ya

Alien memes are on the horizon

[Purple Nurple]

Well then I'll start posting more for ya

Alien memes are on the horizon

You do nothing but remind me I'm old all the time!

[ellicottraven]

Thank God for Ozzie! Now I want to pray that He keep our secondary's health pristine so I can thank Him again!

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I thought the same thing as well. During FA frenzy he probably goes in the 3 year, $12M range to a team with a lot of cap room. The Brown, Jags, Jets, ect. but at this point those team have already filled their holes at corner and paid market value for their guys. We likely got Arrington for around half of his market value if he was an UFA to begin with.

Exactly my thoughts. With guys like Maxwell getting $10+mill it was an over inflated market. What'd Cary Williams get, like $4mill? I know an outside corner is worth more but Cary is just good in the outside, and not exceptional at any one thing. Arrington is an elite slot corner capable of completely shutting down that absolute best slot receivers.

I'll take a specialist that is top notch in that one area even if he is weak otherwise over guys that are just good overall.

This move highlights Ozzies brilliance, as you mentioned the only reason we can land a player of this caliber especially at this price is because all the teams with a combination of need and cap space either exhausted their resources or adequately filled their need. And Ozzie ends up basically bidding against himself for a more highly coveted player than what was originally available.

And the more I think about it the more I love this move. Jimmy has shown the ability to shut down big fast outside receivers. Webb is versatile. But we've struggled against crafty, slot receivers. Welker used to kill us. We couldn't stop Edelman at all in the playoffs. If I recall TY Hilton did pretty darn well against us. Sanu is another one.

Arrington gives us the ability to really be aggressive and play straight up man coverage even in 3-4 wide sets. We now have the size and length on the outside and the technique and quickness on the inside the shut down whatever the offense throws at us.

Really really excited. Getting the same kind of buzz and feeling I had going into 2012.

[jazz1988]

Kyle Arrington a solid nicker corner whom can be inconsistent at times especially if you asking  him to play the outside which is a no no. He did lead the league in interceptions one time with seven so I guess he has some ball skills but he's a guy you want in the nickel at all times. I was a little iffy on the signing because like I said Arrington is  a nickel corner and usually The Ravens like using Ladarius Webb in the nickel at times especially when opposing teams go 3 wide receiver sets and etc.It be interesting to see if The Ravens keep Webb on the outside for the majority of the seasons because I honestly like when Pee's get's creative with him and ask him to cover slot receivers or biltz from the slot.

[Hey Diddle]

What are the chances he is a spy?

 

Who knows if he will be giving information to dark sidious, I know we don't play them in the regular season but if it comes to a playoff matchup again, I would keep him under surveillance!

[cobrajet]

Don't underestimate the importance of covering a slot receiver. This is an important signing. Thanks Ozzie.

[sflegend89]

Arrington's ball skills are definitely on point. If you give him the opportunity he is going to come away with a pick. That's maybe the only weakness Jimmy has in his entire game, he has dropped some gimme picks but I can accept that because he's such a dominant man to man cover guy and one of the best tackling CB's in football. 

 

Arrington is yet another good run support/tackling CB to compliment Jimmy but his ball skills add a new dimension to our secondary that we haven't had since Webb was healthy and to an extent with Corey Graham. When you look at what we accomplished last year with an abysmal CB situation you can't help but get excited about the upcoming season. No more Chykie and Franks starting, man was that brutal to watch.

[lgcs27288]

How can you get mad at a fellow fan getting excited? I like the excitement, I may not say SB champs, but I do think we have a legitimate chance. It takes luck to win it all in this league and maybe a little cheating if you are a certain organization.

I think being excited for something is much more fun than being "realistic" if it means being a negative nancy. /rant/off topic

Kyle is a great pick up for the team and solidified yet another weakness of our team.

Ozzie is the man!

Edited May 14, 2015 by lgcs27288

[gabefergy]

I think Arrington's perceived struggles playing outside are a bit overblown. He may be a bit undersized, but he is physical and can press. He actually played a decent number of snaps last season outside and fared decently. He's much better in the slot for sure, but he can play all over.

[omar586]

i'm excited about this signing as any ravens fan, but some writer brought up an intersting point, from this article from Russell street report , why would the pats release the CB? whats the reason ? they couldn't have released him b/c of $3 mill?  hmmm........................

[gabefergy]

i'm excited about this signing as any ravens fan, but some writer brought up an intersting point, from this article from Russell street report , why would the pats release the CB? whats the reason ? they couldn't have released him b/c of $3 mill? hmmm........................

Well they released Browner and Dennard too, so maybe they had a change of philosophy at CB?

[zuilyas]

Yes!!!!! Great signing!!!

[lgcs27288]

i'm excited about this signing as any ravens fan, but some writer brought up an intersting point, from this article from Russell street report , why would the pats release the CB? whats the reason ? they couldn't have released him b/c of $3 mill?  hmmm........................

  

[omar586]

Well they released Browner and Dennard too, so maybe they had a change of philosophy at CB?

 

 

  

 

ok, i hope this new scenery and environment will make arrington thrive in the ravens D and make the pats regret their decision big time.

[Maryland]

I find PFF ratings on DBs to be almost worthless, and I say this as someone who pays for PFF. 

 

It's subjective whether a reception belongs to the CB or the S on a given play. They don't tell you whether they're mostly playing man or zone. They don't tell you when a guy has no safety help. And you don't know when a reception or TD is in junk time/prevent defense. 

 

PFF is an alright baseline, but some guy like Antoine Winfield would tear up their ratings every season just by accruing points from making tackles.

 

The best measure of talent is through actually watching them play. Arrington will be above average as long as he never leaves the slot. 

Edited May 14, 2015 by Maryland

[Bruce_Almty]

Webb got crushed by Martavius Bryant. He had his way with him and it is a problem.

Thus the drafting of Tray Walker; hopefully he's be able to step into a starting role in a year or two.