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Ravens sign CB Kyle Arrington

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Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider  42s

Haven't seen exact terms, but sources say Kyle Arrington deal averages roughly $2.5 million over three years

 

Ozzie strikes again, a top flight slot corner , extremely polished vet , with tons of playoff experience who just got done shutting down Ty Hilton in the AFCCG for 2.5MIL 

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Not to get off-topic; but, one could say the Ravens put a little too much stock into Jacoby Jones following the Super Bowl run. After all, J.J. was the #2 WR going into the season and if it wasn't for Brynden Trawick injuring Jones, he would have remained the #2 receiver (with Marlon Brown probably not getting many chances to play).

 

EDIT: Just saying this happens with all teams; a player steps-up, shines in a big game and the team later rewards him.

 

For a short stretch of time Jacoby actually looked really good and didnt have hands problems. Infact, from the eye test it looked like he and joe had good chemistry but he fell apart.

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Yeah, it definitely seems puzzling: Revis, Browner, Dennard and Arrington are all gone. It's even harder to make sense of this, especially when New England lacked quality cornerback play for years until greatly improving the position in 2014.

 

They're basically running with the likes of Malcolm Butler, Logan Ryan, Bradley Fletcher, Robert McClain and some guy named Chimdi Chekwa, this season. You could very easily call that group "The Legion of Whom"...

 

Cutting Revis and Browner seem like for cap reason only and Dennard got cut because some said his work ethic was poor and etc.  Robert McClain actually used to be one of the better nickel corners in the league but his play fell off especially last year but The Falcons pass rush was really poor so maybe  The Patriots believe Mcclain can be just as good as Kyle Arrington with better pass rush which what they have. I guess that's why Arrington was cut but who knows .

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We actually have a decent depth guy at CB!!! I know we aren't getting a pro bowler or anything but someone who can at least play average if we lose Jimmy or Webb is a huge deal for us

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Awesome move, and early for Ozzie too.  Wonder if he'll find any more depth to add at CB over the coming month or two...I have a feeling he might.

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nope, we signed a slot CB. OMG WE ARE WINNING THE SUPER BOWL. smdh.

With Brady gone for 4 games and Peyton's tapering play at the end of last season, we have a very good chance to at least go far in the playoffs.

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Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider  42s

Haven't seen exact terms, but sources say Kyle Arrington deal averages roughly $2.5 million over three years

 

When you look at the going price for corner in today's market that's a steal for a high quality nickel corner. Arrington actually ranked ahead of Browner last year according to advanced metrics and was 2nd on the Pats to only Revis.

 

This is why Ozzie doesn't panic and get into bidding wars when FA starts. We all threw a fit because we wouldn't pay market value for Culliver, Cox, Browner, ect. This is why we say "In Ozzie we trust". Why would you pay super inflated prices during the FA frenzy when you can make value signings like this and save the team a lot of money. This is exactly what separates Ozzie from other GM's

 

Culliver - 4 year, $32M

Cox - 3 year, $15M

House - 4 year, $25M

Skrine - 4 year, $25M

 

Arrington might not be quite as versatile as those guys but when you look at value for money... WOW

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Another thing is that Kyle gets to play in front of his hometown fans yes hes from the Baltimore area so basically he gets to come home!

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With Brady gone for 4 games and Peyton's tapering play at the end of last season, we have a very good chance to at least go far in the playoffs.

ok that makes a little more sense.

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Man I love our front office. Having Ozzie at the helm is such a luxury - even with all the praise the majority of Ravens fans and football fans in general heap on Ozzie I still think he's taken for granted.

He's mastered the offseason roster building game. While everyone else races to overpay the biggest names on the FA market, Ozzie only signs players that he truly covets at a fair price... Anything else he doesn't knowing well that with patience eventually a bargain will surface.

And here we go - our biggest weakness from last season... CB depth... Where most teams and fans would reason that since it's the biggest and most glaring weakness you should aggressively address it as soon as possible.

Meanwhile Ozzie keeps cool waiting for the perfect time to pounce. Waiting for another team to cut bait with a solid veteran piece that he'll get well below market value because the demand is no longer there to drive price up.

Enter Arrington stage left. Contract presented by Ozzie. Roster needs filled, talent replenished. Deep playoff run. End scene.

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I wonder - if Arrington had been a FA at the beginning of the offseason where would he have ranked among the available corners on the market??

With that in mind what size deal would he have likely received early on in free agency? And how does that number compare to what we got him for?

Well played, Ozzie. Well played. Check and mate.

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nope, we signed a slot CB. OMG WE ARE WINNING THE SUPER BOWL. smdh.

are you kidding me? the ravens are a legitimate contender for the super bowl every single season, even with gaping holes on the team we take the golden boys of the nfl to the wire deep in the playoffs and scare the hell out of every "elite" team in the league when january rolls around. we have addressed every single hole on this team, there is not a single weakness anywhere on our roster, and even with a very flawed roster and terrible injury bug last year we had a real chance to go to the SB, barring another decimating string of injuries there is no team that looks more prepped for a super bowl than the ravens. 

 

go join the 105.7 "the fan" forums or something with that kind of attitude.

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are you kidding me? the ravens are a legitimate contender for the super bowl every single season, even with gaping holes on the team we take the golden boys of the nfl to the wire deep in the playoffs and scare the hell out of every "elite" team in the league when january rolls around. we have addressed every single hole on this team, there is not a single weakness anywhere on our roster, and even with a very flawed roster and terrible injury bug last year we had a real chance to go to the SB, barring another decimating string of injuries there is no team that looks more prepped for a super bowl than the ravens. 

 

go join the 105.7 "the fan" forums or something with that kind of attitude.

any knowledgeable, level-headed football fan will never say their team will win a super bowl during the month of may before the season even starts. i dont care if youre a fan of the patriots, broncos, seahawks, packers, etc. its the month of may.. we have two rookies replacing solid starters from last year on offense. we have no idea how kendrick lewis will shape up our secondary yet. OTAs havent even started. lean back a bit, enjoy the offseason with practical foresight, and look at the big picture without your purple shades, homie.

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I wonder - if Arrington had been a FA at the beginning of the offseason where would he have ranked among the available corners on the market??

With that in mind what size deal would he have likely received early on in free agency? And how does that number compare to what we got him for?

Well played, Ozzie. Well played. Check and mate.

 

I thought the same thing as well. During FA frenzy he probably goes in the 3 year, $12M range to a team with a lot of cap room. The Brown, Jags, Jets, ect. but at this point those team have already filled their holes at corner and paid market value for their guys. We likely got Arrington for around half of his market value if he was an UFA to begin with.

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I really like the move as long as he stays in the slot or we coach the Hell out of him and improve him on the outside. The games I saw with him last year as an outside CB were very bad. Hopefully he doesn't need to play outside, though.

I actually really like the move. If he plays well in the slot, like he's expected, then we aren't hand cuffed to keeping Webb if he continues to look poor. Hopefully that's not the case and we have our own legion of boom.

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All I know is our secondary just got better than it was 24 hours ago. Pats fans are pretty upset / Jelous if you read it on NFL.com because they are saying how bad Arrington is and how good the other Patriot players were just shows you how mad they were that he did not have a chance to go back at a reduced salary like so many writers were saying was going to happen. He will be better in purple and black because our team makes players better.

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I really like the move as long as he stays in the slot or we coach the Hell out of him and improve him on the outside. The games I saw with him last year as an outside CB were very bad. Hopefully he doesn't need to play outside, though.

I actually really like the move. If he plays well in the slot, like he's expected, then we aren't hand cuffed to keeping Webb if he continues to look poor. Hopefully that's not the case and we have our own legion of boom.

 

the first part of your post is very accurate. he is not that good.

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the first part of your post is very accurate. he is not that good.

He's 28, it might be two late to coach him up. He's great in the slot and that's all we need.

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Man I hope now more than ever Webb is back to 100%.

If so, this defense will easily be our best since 2006

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I really like the move as long as he stays in the slot or we coach the Hell out of him and improve him on the outside. The games I saw with him last year as an outside CB were very bad. Hopefully he doesn't need to play outside, though.

I actually really like the move. If he plays well in the slot, like he's expected, then we aren't hand cuffed to keeping Webb if he continues to look poor. Hopefully that's not the case and we have our own legion of boom.

Ya... I have not watched enough film on Arrington playing on the outside but I do remember how bad Flacco was eating them up on the outside  last year S.Smith SR made their best DB look like a chump a few times in that game. Revis was way over-rated as far as Arrington goes this is a new begining for him and he probabbly has a chip on his shoulder now plus the Ravens play as a team and players get better here than most places because of the way we concentrate on a players strengths and let them play to their strengths. Think about all the studs who played with the Ravens then left and never delivered like they did when they were wearing the purple and black.  For example Adalias Thomas stud as a Raven as a Patriot average player. I guess  What I am trying to say "Grim" is he will probabbly be a better player as a Raven.

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Ya... I have not watched enough film on Arrington playing on the outside but I do remember how bad Flacco was eating them up on the outside last year S.Smith SR made their best DB look like a chump a few times in that game. Revis was way over-rated as far as Arrington goes this is a new begining for him and he probabbly has a chip on his shoulder now plus the Ravens play as a team and players get better here than most places because of the way we concentrate on a players strengths and let them play to their strengths. Think about all the studs who played with the Ravens then left and never delivered like they did when they were wearing the purple and black. For example Adalias Thomas stud as a Raven as a Patriot average player. I guess What I am trying to say "Grim" is he will probabbly be a better player as a Raven.

I think that even if he's a good slot CB, then that's fine. I'm okay with him in the slot. He's fine there. It's just outside where he struggles. He lets the WR control the route and you can't do that as a CB, but especially not outside. I have faith he'll be a good slot CB though. I just don't feel too good about him outside the numbers.

One good thing is he can tackle. That's a start, right? Nothing upsets me more than defensive players that can't tackle.

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The Panthers apparently got pretty aggressive in the pursuit as well.  Glad he ended up here.

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any knowledgeable, level-headed football fan will never say their team will win a super bowl during the month of may before the season even starts. i dont care if youre a fan of the patriots, broncos, seahawks, packers, etc. its the month of may.. we have two rookies replacing solid starters from last year on offense. we have no idea how kendrick lewis will shape up our secondary yet. OTAs havent even started. lean back a bit, enjoy the offseason with practical foresight, and look at the big picture without your purple shades, homie.

how about you look at the big picture without the pessimistic attitude. who is saying we will win the super bowl? were talking about the real possibility of it, and yes, the possibility is very real. so suddenly anytime we get optimistic we need to pump the brakes because that makes us un-knowledgeable and we arent level headed? if so then im glad i dont have your attitude, homie.

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Great signing, We might be in a pardicament though. Kyle should ONLY play slot, if he does that the outside will be played by Smith and Webb, Webb didn't exactly do good playing outside last season, especially we went against the steelers(regular season and playoffs).

Webb got crushed by Martavius Bryant. He had his way with him and it is a problem.

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Was there any doubt we would sign him? Most obvious pickup ever.

 

The patriots were trying to bring him back at a  cheaper rate

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I think that even if he's a good slot CB, then that's fine. I'm okay with him in the slot. He's fine there. It's just outside where he struggles. He lets the WR control the route and you can't do that as a CB, but especially not outside. I have faith he'll be a good slot CB though. I just don't feel too good about him outside the numbers.

One good thing is he can tackle. That's a start, right? Nothing upsets me more than defensive players that can't tackle.

Like I said I have not watched enough game film on him to give an honest assesment but you are not the only one talking about him on the outside. I just think he will be better in Baltimore than he was in New England we have that swag thing going for us.. You sure are right about the tackling aspect though. I believe we are definitly a better team than we were 24 hours ago.

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