[News] Late For Work 5/13: Will Perriman Lead Rookie WR Class? Smith Sr. Responds To Hater On Birthday

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[reed20fence]

If I could just say, the fact that the GM and coach are made available so candidly to PSL holders and then the call is subsequently made available for all fans to hear is awesome on the part of the organization and br.com.

I'm very very happy to be a Ravens fan and admire the quality of work you guys do. Especially those production and support guys behind the scenes that we never hear about. A sense of pride and ownership of your work is well deserved.

Edited May 13, 2015 by reed20fence

[Blizzard]

I am so confident that Breshad Perriman will be THE WR in this years draft class. With Steve Smith teaching them in terms of football-skills and angriness - this will be very special for us!

I cant wait until the Season starts. Me and my twinbrother (I'm watching every single second of Ravens-Gametime (from Switzerland)) have a darn good feeling that this season will bring us the 3rd Lombardi!!

Hustle, Hustle, Hustle!! Thats Ravens-Football!

Go get em RAVENS!!

Greets from Switzerland

Blizzard

[balfan23]

Could Perriman have the biggest impact and lead the rookie WR class? I think these are 2 different things. I don't anticipate him leading the class in yards or in catches ... we just don't have the kind of offense that generates huge stats in the pass game for any one receiver.

 

However, I think he has the chance to make the biggest impact. He has gone to what I believe to be the team best positioned to take advantage of his skills and that alone can mean he'll have a bigger impact.

[stixfix69]

I think with our depth at WR, and SSS running the mid range routes, Perriman can be worked into the line-up as far as play selection. by mid-season i hope he has the routes down, and the a full understanding of the offense, as far as audibles...

[orangle123]

Am the the only one disappointed we won't see Ed and Troy in the same HoF class?

[Nevermore.]

"wrote the peeps at NFL.com"? Can we tighten this up a bit please? I know it's early and this is a casual daily posting, but come on.

[Bruce_Almty]

If Perriman has 50 catches, 800 yds, and 5 TDs I'll say he had a very successful rookie season. Starter on day 1. Predicting "the best," "the most," is a fools errand.

Edited May 13, 2015 by Bruce_Almty

[ellicottraven]

The fascinating thing about that Perriman 40 yd GIF is that by just looking at it, you can't ever say he is running a 4.25. He looks so deceptive in his speed, almost effortless gazelle like speed!!!

[balfan23]

Of all the causes that a person could involve oneself in ... to make a scene and even go so far as to get oneself arrested ... defending a multi-millionaire cheat wouldn't be high on my list. 

[stixfix69]

I think his biggest asset in this WC offense will be clearing out space for the quick underneath timing routes, and then Flacco will hit him deep on a few plays...I do see more bubble screens with his size and speed as well.....I kind of see some Demaryius Thomas in him.....

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

Did anyone else read some of the comments on that rookie WR article on the NFL.com link?Apparently dolphins fans think Ryan Tannehill is a better QB than Joe Flacco.One dolphin fan said Tannehill was smarter,more accurate,COULD THROW MORE ROUTES and that Flacco couldn't run/scramble.GOOD LORD!Where did this perception that Flacco is an immobile/noncerebral QB come from and how many big runs must he for and defenses must he pick apart for it to go away?I kind of get the reason why people think he's inaccurate though.Alot of foolish people actually think completion percentage is a good way to judge a QB's accuracy.It's not!Some things can't be judged by stats.The only way to get a good idea of how accurate a QB is is by using your eyeballs and watching his ball placement.

Edited May 13, 2015 by HomeoftheBRAVENS

[stixfix69]

Dolphin fans are drunk on kool-aid 24/7....Flacco has never missed a game, has or is tied for the most wins since he has been in the league, SB winner, i could go on, but whats the point....ha ha ha...

[bioLarzen]

Am the the only one disappointed we won't see Ed and Troy in the same HoF class?

 

Yeah, that would be awesome - but realistically, I see no chance to have two safeties get in Canton as first-ballotters... I don't even really see ANY safeties make it the first possible time. Not because neither Ed nor Polamalu would deserve it - but because it seems that those who vote don't seem to regard safeties that high for some reason...

Edited May 13, 2015 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

I think his biggest asset in this WC offense will be clearing out space for the quick underneath timing routes, and then Flacco will hit him deep on a few plays...I do see more bubble screens with his size and speed as well.....I kind of see some Demaryius Thomas in him.....

 

For a moment I thought you were talking about the WildCat and was accordingly confused

[ellicottraven]

Dolphin fans are drunk on kool-aid 24/7....Flacco has never missed a game, has or is tied for the most wins since he has been in the league, SB winner, i could go on, but whats the point....ha ha ha...

Being absolutely intellectually honest, these are the only QBs that would compare with Flacco in my opinion. Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck. Short of these guys, I wouldn't even consider any other QB (currently playing) better or having more upside than Joe Flacco. I am just looking at Joe's career wins and durability and clutch performances the past 7 yrs and no one really comes close to him. To even say Tannehill in the same breath as Flacco is simply a travesty and an insult to serious football fans.

[#hashtag]

That dude ended up deleting his twitter too!!!! Baaaaaahahahahaha!

[stixfix69]

#hashtag.....That guy needs to delete himself from the face of the earth....bah ha ha ha....good times.....

[stixfix69]

So...who does Oz scoop up, now that another round of FA signing are now available to sign, without losing a pick.....

[salamander]

Would be a real hoot if Pats fans dumb enough to donate their money to super rich Kraft would wake up one morning and find that the website and funds simply vanished in to thin air, along with the die hard fan who suckered them out of their hard earned dollars. The rest of the nation would enjoy a good chuckle.

[stixfix69]

Pats fans are in full defense mode....

[TheSim]

Did anyone else read some of the comments on that rookie WR article on the NFL.com link?Apparently dolphins fans think Ryan Tannehill is a better QB than Joe Flacco.

 

List of inferior QBs that people have argued are better than Joe Flacco:

 

Mark Sanchez

Josh Freeman

Andy Dalton

Matt Schaub

Derek Anderson (LOL)

Matt Cassel

Kyle Orton

 

Lesson?  People say whatever they want, but the truth comes out in time.

[Mystigo_Dragon]

So,... let me get this straight! If Breshad Perriman and his fellow WR draftees don't measure up to last year's class then they're trash,... losers?

 

Who cares?

 

I'm rooting for Perriman to not only surpass Torrey's numbers here but to make a name for himself for years to come!

 

It's the TEAM that needs to WIN, not one draft class over another! The TEAM!

Edited May 13, 2015 by Mystigo_Dragon

[sami]

Would be a real hoot if Pats fans dumb enough to donate their money to super rich Kraft would wake up one morning and find that the website and funds simply vanished in to thin air, along with the die hard fan who suckered them out of their hard earned dollars. The rest of the nation would enjoy a good chuckle.

their egos would all be deflated

[Fullblack_RAVEN]

Did anyone else read some of the comments on that rookie WR article on the NFL.com link?Apparently dolphins fans think Ryan Tannehill is a better QB than Joe Flacco.One dolphin fan said Tannehill was smarter,more accurate,COULD THROW MORE ROUTES and that Flacco couldn't run/scramble.GOOD LORD!Where did this perception that Flacco is an immobile/noncerebral QB come from and how many big runs must he for and defenses must he pick apart for it to go away?I kind of get the reason why people think he's inaccurate though.Alot of foolish people actually think completion percentage is a good way to judge a QB's accuracy.It's not!Some things can't be judged by stats.The only way to get a good idea of how accurate a QB is is by using your eyeballs and watching his ball placement.

LOL, wow.

 

Tannehill isn't on flacco's level at all.

 

Ryan tannehill is a short route throwing qb who is still learning the game after coming from a spread option college offense. He can't throw deep/intermediate routes w/ accuracy which is one of the reasons why they traded mike wallace. The dolphins thought a player like tannehill would benefit from having a deepball wr. The opposite happened. Mike wallace was angry the whole time he was in miami. He was the fall guy for that offense not doing better when in reality, it was tannehill & his non deep ball throwing ways that angered him. Flacco would have made mike an 1000 yard wr like he was in pitt. 

 

Tannehill is one of the best qb's in the nfl at throwing on the run. He isn't as effective in the pocket, though. People look at his completion % and act like that is the ultimate measure of throwing accuracy. Well, it isn't. When all you throwing are short routes, you can prop up your completion %. Andrew luck has a 61.7% completion rate but is much more accurate than tannehill, imo. The numbers can lie. Heck, rg3 completed 65% of his passes in his rook yr. Why? Short, option route passes. 

 

Tannehill is in the same class as andy dalton. Both were spread option qb's in college and have problems with intermediate throws. Dalton luckily has aj green, a guy whom covers for a lot of his mishaps. Andy could throw an inaccurate intermediate throw and it won't matter because aj can adjust to the ball mid flight and catch it (until the playoffs of course where andy routinely overthrows his targets by 5-10 yards). NFL.com has some idiotic posters.

 

How does tannehill throw more routes than flacco when the miami dolphins don't even utilize intermediate/deep patterns? It makes no sense. Teams that need to run option plays here and there do so out of necessity because of the limitations of their qb's. That's what the dolphins AND bengals do.

[Halshayeji]

If Perriman has 50 catches, 800 yds, and 5 TDs I'll say he had a very successful rookie season. Starter on day 1. Predicting "the best," "the most," is a fools errand.

With deep threat receivers, stats alone don't necessarily tell the full story. Torrey had a so and so season statistically but earned a huge contract. That's because he led the league in PI calls. That's 250 yards right there. He also demanded a deep safety to keep an eye on him on every play because of that big play threat. Thus, SSS and OD had single coverages all day long. Forsett also rarely faced stacked boxes because teams feared play action bombs to Torrey.

I don't care about stats when it comes to Permian. If he can force teams to gameplan against him on a weekly bases then we are set! If he gets shut down by single coverage on a regular basis then we are basically screwed.

I hope perriman can stay healthy and be our go to guy for years to come.

[reed20fence]

With deep threat receivers, stats alone don't necessarily tell the full story. Torrey had a so and so season statistically but earned a huge contract. That's because he led the league in PI calls. That's 250 yards right there. He also demanded a deep safety to keep an eye on him on every play because of that big play threat. Thus, SSS and OD had single coverages all day long. Forsett also rarely faced stacked boxes because teams feared play action bombs to Torrey.

I don't care about stats when it comes to Permian. If he can force teams to gameplan against him on a weekly bases then we are set! If he gets shut down by single coverage on a regular basis then we are basically screwed.

I hope perriman can stay healthy and be our go to guy for years to come.

Couldn't have been said any better! The subtleties of how all the variables of a gameplan interact are vast and can't always be encompassed by hard stats.

Kudos!

Edited May 13, 2015 by reed20fence

[steelcityraven]

THe entire Patriots thing is a farce. I say that for several reasons:

1. Deflated balls did not give the Pats an unfair advantage in that Colts game. They were up 14-7 at the half. The balls were found to be under inflated and corrected at half time. The entire 2nd half was played with regulation footballs and the Pats thumped the Colts in the 2nd half.... with a final score of 40someting to 7! The colts should have been asking for the balls to be deflated from the looks of things

2. If the NFL thought that they were wrong.... why did they wait so long to announce the punishment! They say that 90% of the investigation was complete before the superbowl. Yet they wouldn't dare hand out suspensions before the big game and hurt ratings. The bottom line with the NFL under Goddells helm has been money. They were not worried about the integrity of the game of they would have dished out suspensions and punishments long ago. No Goddell is worried about $ and $ only.

Now we as fans are supposed to set back and jump on board and say... yes the NFL got it right? I don't think so... they made a mockery of the entire thing.... like the did with RAY RICE... suspending him for 2 games and then indefinitely, like they have done with the entire DV issue (Ray Macdonald, Hardy and James Harrison all playing but Ray not)! Like the have done with the Josh Gordon fiasco and their inconsistencies throughout. The only thing that motivate Goddell is money and suspending Brady for the first four games (which will probably be appealed and dropped to two) at the beginning of the season is a slap on the wrist compared to if it would have started with the super bowl!

I think the entire thing is a joke and mishandled throughout! Typical Roger Goddell screw up...no wonder the NFL has such serious legal issues and problems... they aren't really chasing ethics.... under goddell they are only chasing economics! That is why ETHICS are so arbitrary in today's NFL!

[riseNConquer81]

Pats fans are idiots and I'm glad someone's calling them just that.

The level of Stan-ning and caping going on for two ridiculously rich dudes who dont know ANY of those peoples' names is quite ridiculous.

[rmcjacket23]

With deep threat receivers, stats alone don't necessarily tell the full story. Torrey had a so and so season statistically but earned a huge contract. That's because he led the league in PI calls. That's 250 yards right there. He also demanded a deep safety to keep an eye on him on every play because of that big play threat. Thus, SSS and OD had single coverages all day long. Forsett also rarely faced stacked boxes because teams feared play action bombs to Torrey.

I don't care about stats when it comes to Permian. If he can force teams to gameplan against him on a weekly bases then we are set! If he gets shut down by single coverage on a regular basis then we are basically screwed.

I hope perriman can stay healthy and be our go to guy for years to come.

While that's true, keep in mind that you are only sampling the 2014 season for those PI numbers.

 

2011: 4/171

2012: 5/78

2013: 6/93

2014: 11/229

 

So if you actually look at his four year numbers, 2014 is sort of an outlier, since he never had more than 6 PI calls against in his previous 3 seasons. So if we were to simply assume that he caught every one of the passes he was interfered with (highly unlikely) and we add his yardage to his actual yardage, his average season would be 60 catches for 1,040 yards.

 

For context, Steve Smith Sr., who was once viewed as a deep threat but isn't anymore, and who is also a decade older than Torrey, would have put up 84 catches for 1,120 yards when adjusted for DPI impact.