Ravens OTAs and minicamp discussion

[Moderator 3]

Yeah im hearing rumblings of the same tune similar situation to LuQuan

More like Brandon Stokley. Talent out the ears but couldn't stay healthy.

[omar586]

more reps for waller and carter, if camp is really hurt, that guy can't get a break.

[FlackAttack]

campanaro is as good as gone. been saying that for the past 2 months and now its pretty much confirmed.

[ludy51]

campanaro is as good as gone. been saying that for the past 2 months and now its pretty much confirmed.

Lol

[ratedr]

Hurt guys stay hurt, sorry to say it.

[Moisty]

If he cant contribute this year then yeah, he should be cut. We have way too many bodies in camp with talent and potential and we cant keep giving a 7th round guy who cant stay healthy any special treatment. Honestly, just a prediction of mine but we might go WR again in 1st or 2nd round of the Draft within the next two years because noone is gonna wow us enough keep us content with the WR situation after Steve Smith leaves. We'll find a solid #2-3 guy within the mix and Perriman will either prove a real #1 or be a #2. We might even grab another great talent if one falls to us and keep the position locked for a few years. Either way Camp has almost no spot on this team if he can't play this year. Too much talent to hype over.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Moisty

[FlackAttack]

If he cant contribute this year then yeah, he should be cut. We have way too many bodies in camp with talent and potential and we cant keep giving a 7th round guy who cant stay healthy any special treatment. Honestly, just a prediction of mine but we might go WR again in 1st or 2nd round of the Draft within the next two years because noone is gonna wow us enough keep us content with the WR situation after Steve Smith leaves. We'll find a solid #2-3 guy within the mix and Perriman will either prove a real #1 or be a #2. We might even grab another great talent if one falls to us and keep the position locked for a few years. Either way Camp has almost no spot on this team if he can't play this year. Too much talent to hype over.

ding ding ding

[ludy51]

Hurt guys stay hurt

Until they heal

[PurpleCity5]

But factor in better coverage which we should have

Now that I think about it, that is true. Jigg can become a great pass rusher and we do have the guys that can apply the pressure. This secondary is more than good enough to buy our pass rushers time.

[Edgar]

Well yeah but I think the healing and conditioning and getting back into shape is what led me to make that decision.

Harbaugh said he is 100%.

[757RavensFan]

For those saying that Camp should be cut, you need to remember that Kapron Lewis Moore was drafted in 2013 and he's yet to play a down for the Ravens. If they see Camp is worth keeping around, they'll do so especially since he hasn't suffered any season ending injuries.  

[baltimorefan328]

Or maxx williams and Boyle

totally agree but I do think people are forgetting about Gilmore. He really showed some receiving promise and has 2 more inches on both Boyle and Williams. Either way, this TE corps has the chance to be one of the best in the league with such a terrific combination of blockers and, if potential leads to actual performance, receiving threats as well. I do believe if Pitta is healthy all 4 make the team

[ellicottraven]

Posted this is another thread but figured it was relevant here as well. OTAs began yesterday so I'll post some news and stuff I come across here

 

 

 

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Michael Campanaro suffered quadriceps injury during Ravens' organized team activity, severity of injury still being determined, per sources

This sucks for the kid. In a related Sun article recently, he said he was doing yoga, stretching and pilates just to avoid injuries during camp. This guy can't seem to catch a break, but the team can only have so much patience. Sooner rather than later, some other player will seize on this opportunity for snaps and take his place.

[redrum52]

For those saying that Camp should be cut, you need to remember that Kapron Lewis Moore was drafted in 2013 and he's yet to play a down for the Ravens. If they see Camp is worth keeping around, they'll do so especially since he hasn't suffered any season ending injuries.

Yea. The guys who want him gone already are insane. I think he has the potential to be a killer slot guy. There's also the fact he's being paid in peanuts and is just flat out valuable to keep. People get hurt. Jags should cut Fowler...

[ravensfan160]

This sucks for the kid. In a related Sun article recently, he said he was doing yoga, stretching and pilates just to avoid injuries during camp. This guy can't seem to catch a break, but the team can only have so much patience. Sooner rather than later, some other player will seize on this opportunity for snaps and take his place.

Some guys are just more prone to injury than others. It's not their fault but boy it is frustrating as a fan. The kid can play but he needs to be on the field first.

[Ravens4Real]

According to the news article just posted on the front page and Aaron Wilsons Twitter, Campanaro suffered a slight tear in his quad. This will put him out until at least the start of training camp. Not looking good for him making the team.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Camp injury is unfortunate. I hope it's not too serious. Dude can't catch a break.

Also, I just wanna say kudos to whoever has been making those practice videos and behind the scenes stuff. It hasn't been like this every year now, has it? I've only had the Ravens app for about a year and don't remember all of this footage from last offseason... It's been a real joy to watch.

 

He can't catch a break....really unfortunate

[Purple_City39]

For those saying that Camp should be cut, you need to remember that Kapron Lewis Moore was drafted in 2013 and he's yet to play a down for the Ravens. If they see Camp is worth keeping around, they'll do so especially since he hasn't suffered any season ending injuries.  

I think it's more about the potential at WR for most.  It's not that anyone really wants to see Camp cut so much as they'd rather not see a roster spot go to a constantly injured guy while a potentially good WR gets cut in his place.

 

Besides, many aren't really counting on KLM either as of now

[Edgar]

I think it's more about the potential at WR for most.  It's not that anyone really wants to see Camp cut so much as they'd rather not see a roster spot go to a constantly injured guy while a potentially good WR gets cut in his place.

 

Besides, many aren't really counting on KLM either as of now[/quote

I agree with you. It would be a shame if carter, Waller or a talented player at any other spot loses his job to a guy who can't stay healthy.

I think he is talented enough that the front office will keep him around as long as possible, using whatever means needed in hopes that he helps us this year! If only for a push at years end to make the playoffs.

No way can this guy be counted on to return kicks and stay healthy.

[Static]

Anyone know what the presser at 2;30 is about?

[jazz1988]

According to the news article just posted on the front page and Aaron Wilsons Twitter, Campanaro suffered a slight tear in his quad. This will put him out until at least the start of training camp. Not looking good for him making the team.

 

Training camp is when the real battle for a roster spot or   overall the real time to  impress  coaches . OTAs is cool and all but none of the players are wearing pads and players can't be physical with each other like they would in training camp.If Camp is ready to go once training camp starts then he should be good.

[Moderator 3]

I think players make the 53-man roster in camp, but plenty of them lose their opportunity in OTAs.

[Ravensfan23]

It sucks to say this and probably too early based on the limited information, but i think this sets Camp up to be a PUP guy. That will give the coaches a extra WR to stash without putting him at risk for other teams to sign him. If after 6 games the coaches feel there needs to be a spark at the return position or maybe even a shot in the arm for the offense Camp could be ready.

From a perception standpoint its not good. I'm seeing a pattern much like David Reed, without the fumbles of course. The biggest thing that hurt Reed was his injuries that made it tough to rely on him despite him being a pretty good returner. I Camp can return in 6 weeks or so full go but my gut says he's a pup guy.

[RayRocks]

It sucks to say this and probably too early based on the limited information, but i think this sets Camp up to be a PUP guy. That will give the coaches a extra WR to stash without putting him at risk for other teams to sign him. If after 6 games the coaches feel there needs to be a spark at the return position or maybe even a shot in the arm for the offense Camp could be ready.

From a perception standpoint its not good. I'm seeing a pattern much like David Reed, without the fumbles of course. The biggest thing that hurt Reed was his injuries that made it tough to rely on him despite him being a pretty good returner. I Camp can return in 6 weeks or so full go but my gut says he's a pup guy.

If the early prognosis is Camp is ready to practice again in 2 months, I don't see any way he stays on PUP for the start of the season without a major setback.  The PUP would put him out for 4.5 months, which probably is unnecessary.  I could see him starting camp on the PUP and them activating him for game 3/4 of preseason to be able to get him some reps before the season, but I doubt he stays on the PUP through the end of camp.

[Sami84]

If the early prognosis is Camp is ready to practice again in 2 months, I don't see any way he stays on PUP for the start of the season without a major setback.  The PUP would put him out for 4.5 months, which probably is unnecessary.  I could see him starting camp on the PUP and them activating him for game 3/4 of preseason to be able to get him some reps before the season, but I doubt he stays on the PUP through the end of camp.

 

Here is the problem..he's looking like amendola..how many more times is he going to get injured? will he be a 5 game a season player?

[GrimCoconut]

It sucks to say this and probably too early based on the limited information, but i think this sets Camp up to be a PUP guy. That will give the coaches a extra WR to stash without putting him at risk for other teams to sign him. If after 6 games the coaches feel there needs to be a spark at the return position or maybe even a shot in the arm for the offense Camp could be ready.

From a perception standpoint its not good. I'm seeing a pattern much like David Reed, without the fumbles of course. The biggest thing that hurt Reed was his injuries that made it tough to rely on him despite him being a pretty good returner. I Camp can return in 6 weeks or so full go but my gut says he's a pup guy.

Is he eligible to go on the PUP? I ask because he participated in a practice so I'm not sure he's eligible. Need some clarity there.

[VeiledPsychosis]

For those saying that Camp should be cut, you need to remember that Kapron Lewis Moore was drafted in 2013 and he's yet to play a down for the Ravens. If they see Camp is worth keeping around, they'll do so especially since he hasn't suffered any season ending injuries.  

But there is a difference here between Camp and KLM. Camp's spot, regardless of the injury, was never guaranteed to begin with considering how loaded with young talent our receiving corps is. The big difference here is that, yes KLM has yet to play a snap outside preseason but the "good" thing about that is we haven't had to sacrifice a roster spot to keep him yet so we have been able to stash him and get a good look at his skill the following year. In that regard having a season ending injury is "better" from a team point of view, Camp hasn't had a season ending injury yet but he has had constant nagging injuries that cause him to miss time but not enough to place him on IR, thus we are sacrificing a roster spot to keep him.

 

This injury doesn't bode well for him making the final 53, The WR battle is already shaping up to be one for the ages and many are very high on DeAndre Carter which also puts Camp's slot role in jeopardy. Plus many have been clamoring for KLM to be cut as well, which i think would be a mistake because we are not as deep at DE as at WR.

[ellicottraven]

After listening to Steve Smith rave about DeAndre Carter and compare him to Randall Cobb, I am more excited than ever to see this guy play! Hopefully we've landed someone really special. Kudos to our scouting department for finding him and our front office for luring him here as an UDFA!

[ellicottraven]

So, it seems like Camp's injury isn't as bad as previously believed. It still sucks that he can't make use of the OTAs' but if he can be back healthy by TC, he should still be able to compete for a spot on the roster. However, I think with DeAndre Carter, it isn't going to be as easy for him to win the return job.

[Purple_City39]

If the early prognosis is Camp is ready to practice again in 2 months, I don't see any way he stays on PUP for the start of the season without a major setback.  The PUP would put him out for 4.5 months, which probably is unnecessary.  I could see him starting camp on the PUP and them activating him for game 3/4 of preseason to be able to get him some reps before the season, but I doubt he stays on the PUP through the end of camp.

If the bolded happens then he won't make the 53 man roster.  Being out all offseason and only playing 2 preseason games would spell doom for Camp.  This isn't like in 2013 when Marlon did that while we had no WR depth (after Jacoby went down in week 1 the #3 receiver that game was a 7th rounder we cut the following season).  There's too much potential at WR right now and they'd all have to flop for Campanero to come in preseason game 3 and still get a roster spot.  

 

Perriman, Smith Sr., Brown, and likely Aiken and the safest (although the last two aren't completely safe).  Waller, Carter, Worthy, Robinson and Butler would spend the next 2+ months fighting for likely 2 spots.  No way they all flop enough for Camp to sneak in with just 2 weeks in the offseason under his belt