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[TXRavensFan]

I like the analogy but it's a little off base. When you join the nfl you are mandated to do certain things like take drug tests etc. - but turning over your phone isn't one of them . If I was innocent of any wrong doing I wouldn't turn my phone over either.(not saying that he is) , in my opinion that part of it isn't the same thing.

 

In this instance, Brady was "mandated" to cooperate with the investigation. When he did not comply by turning over his phone records, it was deemed conduct detrimental to the league, which is a punishable offense by the NFL. Keep in mind hat he wasn't required to simply turn over the phone; the investigators gave Brady the option to pick and choose the pertinent records to release (without giving them access to the phone itself). Brady and his camp refused on the grounds that any records they released "would be met with skepticism."

[rmcjacket23]

In this instance, Brady was "mandated" to cooperate with the investigation. When he did not comply by turning over his phone records, it was deemed conduct detrimental to the league, which is a punishable offense by the NFL. Keep in mind hat he wasn't required to simply turn over the phone; the investigators gave Brady the option to pick and choose the pertinent records to release (without giving them access to the phone itself). Brady and his camp refused on the grounds that any records they released "would be met with skepticism."

There's also a risk/reward factor there for Brady. Certainly risky to turn over your phone records or email records to anybody in this day and age.

[Mahaney]

Besides Brady refusing to cooperate, the Patriots did not allow Wells permission to meet with McNally again later in the investigation. Wells said they would meet with McNally whenever or where ever he wanted to meet, but it is believed that the patriots didn't even tell McNally that Wells wanted to meet again. Another offense of conduct detrimental to the league, this after the Pats agreed to fully cooperate. Anyone with any common sense knows that this is a cover up and the Pats would rather not cooperate and take the punishment than let everyone know what was really going on. Who knows how else they have been cheating over the years.

[TXRavensFan]

. I mentioned this in another post already- but if I'm not mistaken they have texts from earlier on in the year after a jets game on a rainy night in foxborough where Brady was complainin about the pressure of the footballs. It was also said he performed pretty badly that day- not that I think it matters. Not sure exactly where I heard this but I know it was circulating around several media outlets including espn- not sure if it was in the actual wells report. I for one ain't readin that massive thing !

 

You don't have to read the whole report, they have a separate section near the beginning with all of the text messages - most enlightening. Speaking of the texts, McNally refers to himself as "the deflator" in a text dated May, 2014, before the beginning of last season. It's reasonable to assume this practice was going on at least that long.

[Grapple Raven]

FYI:  In the Wells Report, the summary and evidence is only 139 pages long, but it is double spaced so it really isn't quite as long as it seems, lol.  The remainder of the report contains all the addendums relating to the scientific date regarding footballs, PSI, testing data, weather conditions, theory, etc.  

 

It is an easy read, and parts are quite entertaining (relating to the text messages).

[January J]

Even if that were true, the Jets game scenario only basically shows that Brady did NOT cheat during that game. If he's complaining about the pressure of the footballs, that likely means that they weren't deflated to the level he wanted, meaning that they were legally inflated. So in that instance, he wouldn't have even violated any rules.

had a feelin you were going to say that- I actually accidentally left out the part in the texts from that jets game where the ball attendant dude (McNally?)actually said something along the lines of "Brady was upset about the balls", and then something like " yeah the refs screwed us they checked them afterwards". (Again I'm paraphrasing) - but yeah obviously this means there intention was to play with deflated balls but things didn't go according to plan that day. Edited May 10, 2015 by January J

[rmcjacket23]

Besides Brady refusing to cooperate, the Patriots did not allow Wells permission to meet with McNally again later in the investigation. Wells said they would meet with McNally whenever or where ever he wanted to meet, but it is believed that the patriots didn't even tell McNally that Wells wanted to meet again. Another offense of conduct detrimental to the league, this after the Pats agreed to fully cooperate. Anyone with any common sense knows that this is a cover up and the Pats would rather not cooperate and take the punishment than let everyone know what was really going on. Who knows how else they have been cheating over the years.

Based on the details I've seen, McNally met with NFL issues either 4 or 5 times. I believe it was the last time (either the 5th or 6th time) where they didn't allow him to speak with NFL officials.

 

Not everything is as it seems...

[Grapple Raven]

Besides Brady refusing to cooperate, the Patriots did not allow Wells permission to meet with McNally again later in the investigation. Wells said they would meet with McNally whenever or where ever he wanted to meet, but it is believed that the patriots didn't even tell McNally that Wells wanted to meet again. Another offense of conduct detrimental to the league, this after the Pats agreed to fully cooperate. Anyone with any common sense knows that this is a cover up and the Pats would rather not cooperate and take the punishment than let everyone know what was really going on. Who knows how else they have been cheating over the years.

 

You are correct. NFL security officials met with McNally several times before the NFL commissioned an outside investigation by the Wells Report. As seen in the comments below from the Wells Report, the investigators from the Well Report had interviewed McNally it appears once and requested a reinterview, but were denied by the Patriots legal team.

 

"3 We made written requests to counsel for the Patriots on February 28, March 2, 3, 9 and 17 for a follow-up

interview with McNally. Counsel for the Patriots repeatedly refused to make McNally available for a reinterview

claiming, among other things, that McNally lived more than an hour away and already had missed

work at his full-time job to attend earlier interviews. In addition, counsel for the Patriots asked that we provide

in advance the subjects we proposed to cover, submit written interrogatories, and stated that “you have given

me very little incentive or basis to try to get him back once more.” As noted above, we offered to meet with

McNally at any time and any location that was convenient and explained that it would not be appropriate from

an investigative standpoint to disclose in advance the specific subjects we intended to cover. We cautioned

counsel for the Patriots in writing that: the “refusal to make Mr. McNally available for a brief follow-up

interview raises serious concerns and is inconsistent with the obligations of the Patriots under the League Rules

to provide „full support and cooperation‟ in the investigation. We also believe it is inconsistent with the public

expressions of cooperation by the Patriots.” Counsel for the Patriots continued to refuse to make McNally

available as requested."  ~Pages 27, 28, 29 of Wells Report.

 

[Space11jams]

There is a video that can be found easily on the internet that shows a QB who wears the #5 jersey for the Ravens yelling and screaming at referees during a professional football game.

 

He was NOT ejected from the game.

When Have You Ever Seen Flacco Directly In A Ref's Face Screaming And Spit Flying Out His Mouth On The Ref?!?! You've never seen that from Flacco because that's not his style. Yes Qb's React which is what you're probably talking about but to stand inches away from his face and yelling and screaming like he's about to knock the ref out is totally different. You're disrespecting him and his personal space and for that he deserved to get body slammed. That's all i'm saying.