Odd men out at receiver

[GrimCoconut]

the way I perceived it was peters was our first choice followed by Dupree. I think perriman was pretty much our last resort for the first- which isn't a bad thing, bc he very well could have been one of the highest receiver on our board- Ozzie just usually tends to go defense and a corner was (debateably) our highest need. Once I read that article that went inside the war room where it stated that Ozzie "grimaced" when bud Dupree was picked - that pretty much tells me he was the guy we wanted at that point. Although I'm glad it worked out the way it did, and I'm thinkin it will be a blessing in disguise. I was suprised the cheifs picked up peters when their receiving core last year did not catch ONE touchdown, but a good pick nonetheless. Maybe he wasn't on our board due to the character issues ? No way of knowing for sure unless we hear it from the brass themselves- but you can pretty much assume when they said that there were only 3 guys left on their board about halfway thru that it was peters, Dupree , and ofcourse perriman- and with the context given, it was probably in that order.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing and great job explaining your rationale! I think that was definitely the case, especially after I think about it more and more. It seems like the Ravens wanted Peters the most, and then wanted Dupree, but when he was gone, it left them with their final option in Perriman. With that said, it's also possible that the Ravens had Perriman as 13, Peters as 14, and Dupree as 15. When Peters was gone, it left them two guys, and then when Dupree was gone, it meant you had Perriman at 13 and another guy rated 28 (just an example). That's where I am not sure, and have a hard time definitively saying that what you proposed (and I initially believed to be true) to be reality. 

[January J]

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing and great job explaining your rationale! I think that was definitely the case, especially after I think about it more and more. It seems like the Ravens wanted Peters the most, and then wanted Dupree, but when he was gone, it left them with their final option in Perriman. With that said, it's also possible that the Ravens had Perriman as 13, Peters as 14, and Dupree as 15. When Peters was gone, it left them two guys, and then when Dupree was gone, it meant you had Perriman at 13 and another guy rated 28 (just an example). That's where I am not sure, and have a hard time definitively saying that what you proposed (and I initially believed to be true) to be reality.

that's definitely a possibility. Or the third guy might have been somebody that we didn't even think was on our radar. Who knows where they had certain guys rated. If we completely ruled out peters due to character concerns( which is possible) it could have been between perriman, Dupree , and agholer. Or Melvin Gordon? Can't remember exactly what pick he was taken- somewhere around 15. Who knows- either way I think it worked out for the best! Time will tell. I also have a hard time believing that Shane Ray wasn't on our radar givin how much harbaugh and them were praising the guy. Ofcourse that was before his incident. There is probably so much that goes on behind the scenes and so many diffrent factors that go into making a decision. Esp with your first pick. I would just love to be a part of the process in that war room. Edited May 7, 2015 by January J

[latenighthero]

So do people actually believe that Darren Waller will make the 53 man roster to start the season. Not saying he won't get into games during the year, but I don't think he'll make the 53 to start. I'm thinking it will be:

 

Steve Smith

B. Perriman

Marlon Brown

Campanaro

Aitken

DeAndre Carter (Sacremento State)

 

What do other people think it'll be?

Edited May 10, 2015 by latenighthero

[rmw10]

So do people actually believe that Darren Waller will make the 53 man roster to start the season. Not saying he won't get into games during the year, but I don't think he'll make the 53 to start. I'm thinking it will be:

 

Steve Smith

B. Perriman

Marlon Brown

Campanaro

Aitken

DeAndre Carter (Sacremento State)

 

What do other people think it'll be?

 

It could be 7 WRs, with Carter on the roster as more of a KR than a WR.

 

Waller seems to be a coaches' pick, and I think they want to keep him there to develop.  It's a Trestman type of guy and he's been working heavily with Engram already.

[January J]

It could be 7 WRs, with Carter on the roster as more of a KR than a WR.

Waller seems to be a coaches' pick, and I think they want to keep him there to develop. It's a Trestman type of guy and he's been working heavily with Engram already.

I actually just posted the same thing a few minutes ago- if anything he will be kept on as a returner - but Waller more so fits trestmans style- and we already have a handful of other talented receivers so he will really have to be lights out to make the roster. Edited May 10, 2015 by January J

[beasy2487]

I think some are underrating Camp's stock and overrating Brown's. From my perspective, I think the coaching staff is really disappointed that Brown hasn't developed into a better route runner and perhaps question his football IQ. Aiken I think is the opposite. I think they like Aiken a lot and and feel he is a savvy receiver, he just doesn't have elite talent for w/e reason and thus I think we'd like to keep him but he is by no means a lock. Camp, on the other hand, just needs to prove he stay on the field. I would be absolutely flabbergasted if he was cut before getting a chance to do that. He's well-liked by his teammates and the coaches love his skillset. Joe showed trust in him as well. I really think we him grow into that Welker-esque role many have predicted this year.

[Ravens4Real]

When trying to do the depth chart, I just see simply no way that we can keep 7 WR's on the 53 man roster.

To do this, we would have to sacrifice depth at two positions that we are truly injury prone at. I can find no reason that the coaching staff would keep a 7th WR on the team that would never see the field over a D Line or D Back.

[Guest]

There's a ton of 10 yard average receivers in the league. The Raven's were Aiken's third team in three years and unless one is riding the "Oz knows better" train, I see no reason why Aiken inherits a certain roster spot.  In fact, per my view he is gone. He is the one guy whose ability has been considered multiple years by multiple teams without a determination that he is of sufficient caliber.

 

That's the starting position will address the rest of the receiver corps in a following post.

So the Ravens have gone from not enough weapons on offense to possibly too many, a good problem to have mind you. But it's now a situation where some touch decisions have to be made before the season itself starts. I'm going to guess that the Ravens only have 5 receivers on gameday.

 

Safe bets: There are 3 receivers that'd really have to screw up to lose their their active spots: SSS, Perriman, and Aiken.

 

Marlon Brown: A good number 3 guy and quality depth. However, he does tend to get outshined by more aggressive receivers. There's a reason he wasn't used as often last season. Camp and Aiken just proved that they should be in the rotation more than him. He has the inside tract for being kept as one of the main group of active receivers, but it's by no means safe.

 

Campanaro: Very talented slot receiver that did seem to be on the same page as Flacco last season. But there's one little problem, he has a hard time staying healthy. All the talent in the world doesn't help if you can't regularly be in the game.

 

Waller: He's got two things in his favor: he was just picked in the draft, and his size. He could be intriguing if he shows that he can out play guys on jump balls in the endzone. There aren't many corners that can beat a 6'6" receiver for a jump ball.

 

Wildcards: Then you have the two wildcards in the mix. First is Butler, who got hurt during preseason last year. He has respectable size, speed, and will fight for the ball. He could be everything the Ravens wanted from Doss. Then there's DeAndre Carter, a guy who seems to be built in the same mold as SSS. I remember one quote about him (from his Coach I think) saying that he's a 5'8" receiver that plays like he's 6'5". He's also a good special teams player, as he was a gunner for the punting squad. And he could potentially be a solid returner.

 

The coaches could be in store for a very tough decision or two come the start of the season.

[ravensnick]

There's a ton of 10 yard average receivers in the league. The Raven's were Aiken's third team in three years and unless one is riding the "Oz knows better" train, I see no reason why Aiken inherits a certain roster spot.  In fact, per my view he is gone. He is the one guy whose ability has been considered multiple years by multiple teams without a determination that he is of sufficient caliber.

 

That's the starting position will address the rest of the receiver corps in a following post.

Aiken had a pretty nice role carved out. He had a very good game vs the Dolphins and crucial TDs in close games such as the Browns or the Pats in the playoff. The Fact that he got decent PT last year and we are thin at WR means he isn't guaranteed, but he would have to screw up pretty bad to be gone. I think he is more likely to stay than Marlon.

Edited May 10, 2015 by ravensnick

[ravensnick]

I think some are underrating Camp's stock and overrating Brown's. From my perspective, I think the coaching staff is really disappointed that Brown hasn't developed into a better route runner and perhaps question his football IQ. Aiken I think is the opposite. I think they like Aiken a lot and and feel he is a savvy receiver, he just doesn't have elite talent for w/e reason and thus I think we'd like to keep him but he is by no means a lock. Camp, on the other hand, just needs to prove he stay on the field. I would be absolutely flabbergasted if he was cut before getting a chance to do that. He's well-liked by his teammates and the coaches love his skillset. Joe showed trust in him as well. I really think we him grow into that Welker-esque role many have predicted this year.

Elite talent is rare. It why so few make the NFL and so few even play in college. Some just aren't good enough to get past a certain point. AIken's a good example. I like him a lot as a rotational #3, but very mistake him for a #2. 

[Guest]

Well, I called Waller pre draft as the High Reward later round windfall, so in consideration of my new Raven Status of Executive Fan Base Draft Director, I will first Grade Out the current roster of Raven Wide Receivers:

 

Kamar Aiken: As already stated I do not make him a sure roster spot despite 24 receptions last year. If he wants to remain with the Ravens, I see it from the Practice Squad.

 

Marlon Brown: He also had 24 receptions for the same average as Aiken. He is by no means guaranteed a roster spot and will have to look outstanding in Training Camp to ensure one.

 

Jeremy Butler:  Not a positive to be hurt and non existent in one's first year.  He will have to shine to merely earn a practice squad invitation.

 

Michael Campanaro: Another one hurt his rookie year and he had merely 7 receptions. Additionally he is small with no vertical. That said, he averaged significant yards per catch. If he stays healthy through camp I think he makes the team. If he goes down in any manner Practice Squad at best.

 

Deandre Carter:  Funny NFL Combine list him as 5' 10", he ran no drills, but they claim to have put a tape measure to him, when everywhere else he's 5'8".  He's got the Matt Elam combine bias!  We are not gonna keep two little guys, (Campanaro), if Carter can stay healthy I suppose he could be the one.

 

Breshad Perriman: There was a lot of moaning and wailing when he was selected, but none emanated from me.  He'll be on the roster.

 

Aldrick Robinson: Currently the High Yards per Catch player on our Roster, though he's never caught one for us.  Was he hurt last year?  Hurt seems to be his middle name. It certainly was Aldrick Hurt Robinson with the Redskins. It depends on how he shows, but I'm leaning to Cut.

 

Steve Smith:  Really thought he ran out of juice last year. Small and Old is no way to be in the NFL. That said, we need his leadership to mentor our young receivers. Remember our safety situation in 2013 without veteran support?  I do think this is his last year.

 

Darren Waller:  Not only do I expect him to make the team. I expect him to start by week 8.  He will be instrumental in our Championship Run.  The Patriots should be disciplined and their QB likely suspended. Despite a horrific secondary we were close.  This is our year.

 

Cam Worthy:  It will be up to his Training Camp, but he's up against it.

 

Watch the lastest camp film and see Waller catch and listen to Harbaugh talking to him, then come back and make your revisions.

The 6th spot is where the real competition is, pending there are no injuries of course.  Smith, Perriman, Aiken, Brown, and Campanaro are likely safe.  That last spot looks to be a competition between Waller, Butler, Carter, and Robinson.

 

As implied above, Aiken, Brown and Campanaro are not locks.

I have a hard time believing Waller won't be on the roster next year. 

 

If he stays sound you can guarantee he will be.

I don't think that Marlon Brown is guaranteed a roster spot. If I had to guess, I'd say Perriman, Smith Sr are our only two guarantees. We need both for various reasons. Smith will be vital to the development of these young WR. I also believe Campanaro won't go anywhere, since I feel very confident he's in for a big role in some form, whether at WR or RS.

Aiken is a guy I think sticks around as well. He offers too much to go and looked really good as a possession guy.

So, in short, I think Aiken, Perriman, Smith Sr and Campanaro are our safe bets. I think Brown, Waller, Butler, Robinson compete for two spots, possibly three. I can see a guy like Carter stick around as a RS for kick returns.

 

For the first time ever we agree on one thing Coconut.

But...Aiken and Campanaro have much to prove to earn a spot.

Steve Smith - Safe, no question.

Breshad Perriman - First rounder, safe.

Michael Campanaro - Looked great before hurting his hammy last year. Safe.

Kamar Aiken - Shined at times when given the playing time he's been fighting for his entire career. Safe.

Marlon Brown - Showed what he could do his rookie year. Team could see what he could do with more playing time again. Safe.

Jeremy Butler - Has some measurables and speed, signed as an undrafted free agent. So no real investment thus far. Shaky future.

Aldrick Robinson - Signed and found his way onto the practice squad with Baltimore. Again, no real investment, shaky future.

Darren Waller - Extremely athletic, big bodied receiver. Invested a sixth round pick in him. If he's willing and able to play ST, he should be on the final roster.  Extremely likely he could end up on the practice squad, and risk being plundered.

 

The way I see the final cut being for receivers is:

Steve Smith

Breshad Perriman

Michael Campanaro

Kamar Aiken

Marlon Brown

Darren Waller

 

Without any real investments in Butler and Robinson, they'll find themselves cut or on the practice squad, if eligible.

 

You may be overestimating Aiken, Brown and Campanaro in that order.

Waller will probably be a practice squadder. If someone wants to take him from the PS, they'll have to sign him to their active roster, which no team would reasonably do since he's such a project. 

 

I think we carry 5 WRs since we drafted 2 TEs and an RB we'll want to keep.

 

Even if we only keep 5 I predict Waller is one.

Senior

Perriman

Brown

Aiken

Campanarro

Waller

 

I just can't see it shake out any other way except god forbid nasty injuries. Waller has no chance staying on our PS longer than a minute and is pretty intriguing prospect. Butler, Robinson and Carter have a tall hill to climb to make the roster this year.

 

Could be, but Aiken, Brown and Campanaro are not locks.

[Grapple Raven]

I wouldn't count Cam Worthy out just yet!  Sorry, you know I gotta pull for my guy! lol  Seeing a lot of #81 catching in rookie camp.

[GrimCoconut]

Well, I called Waller pre draft as the High Reward later round windfall, so in consideration of my new Raven Status of Executive Fan Base Draft Director, I will first Grade Out the current roster of Raven Wide Receivers:

Kamar Aiken: As already stated I do not make him a sure roster spot despite 24 receptions last year. If he wants to remain with the Ravens, I see it from the Practice Squad.

Marlon Brown: He also had 24 receptions for the same average as Aiken. He is by no means guaranteed a roster spot and will have to look outstanding in Training Camp to ensure one.

Jeremy Butler: Not a positive to be hurt and non existent in one's first year. He will have to shine to merely earn a practice squad invitation.

Michael Campanaro: Another one hurt his rookie year and he had merely 7 receptions. Additionally he is small with no vertical. That said, he averaged significant yards per catch. If he stays healthy through camp I think he makes the team. If he goes down in any manner Practice Squad at best.

Deandre Carter: Funny NFL Combine list him as 5' 10", he ran no drills, but they claim to have put a tape measure to him, when everywhere else he's 5'8". He's got the Matt Elam combine bias! We are not gonna keep two little guys, (Campanaro), if Carter can stay healthy I suppose he could be the one.

Breshad Perriman: There was a lot of moaning and wailing when he was selected, but none emanated from me. He'll be on the roster.

Aldrick Robinson: Currently the High Yards per Catch player on our Roster, though he's never caught one for us. Was he hurt last year? Hurt seems to be his middle name. It certainly was Aldrick Hurt Robinson with the Redskins. It depends on how he shows, but I'm leaning to Cut.

Steve Smith: Really thought he ran out of juice last year. Small and Old is no way to be in the NFL. That said, we need his leadership to mentor our young receivers. Remember our safety situation in 2013 without veteran support? I do think this is his last year.

Darren Waller: Not only do I expect him to make the team. I expect him to start by week 8. He will be instrumental in our Championship Run. The Patriots should be disciplined and their QB likely suspended. Despite a horrific secondary we were close. This is our year.

Cam Worthy: It will be up to his Training Camp, but he's up against it.

Watch the lastest camp film and see Waller catch and listen to Harbaugh talking to him, then come back and make your revisions.

As implied above, Aiken, Brown and Campanaro are not locks.

If he stays sound you can guarantee he will be.

For the first time ever we agree on one thing Coconut.

But...Aiken and Campanaro have much to prove to earn a spot.

You may be overestimating Aiken, Brown and Campanaro in that order.

Even if we only keep 5 I predict Waller is one.

Could be, but Aiken, Brown and Campanaro are not locks.

When did we disagree because I don't recall any disagreements with you and I think I'm pretty agreeable. Kinda confused here.

Anyway I actually think a lot of what you said makes sense. I really don't think anyone's guaranteed a roster spot but I'm pretty confident that Campanaro, Smith and Perriman are locks. I see 3-4 guys ultimately rounding out the remainder of the WR corps. Those 3-4 guys include Waller, Carter, Aiken, Brown. I actually really like Waller's chances of making the original 53.

[omar586]

i doubt ravens will cut brown or aiken like some people r suggesting, unless the suck big time in TC, hopfully joe will make these guys good, waller might become are jump ball end-zone TD machine if he get it together.

[GrimCoconut]

i doubt ravens will cut brown or aiken like some people r suggesting, unless the suck big time in TC, hopfully joe will make these guys good, waller might become are jump ball end-zone TD machine if he get it together.

I could see one get cut but I really like both players' chances of making the team. I really feel confident we'll have 7 WR to start the year

[Purple_City39]

So do people actually believe that Darren Waller will make the 53 man roster to start the season. Not saying he won't get into games during the year, but I don't think he'll make the 53 to start. I'm thinking it will be:

 

Steve Smith

B. Perriman

Marlon Brown

Campanaro

Aitken

DeAndre Carter (Sacremento State)

 

What do other people think it'll be?

Waller has too many thinks going in his favor already over players like Brown (who I have loved since preseason week 3 of his rookie year), Aiken, and Carter.  Baltimore may be the place where undrafted players get a chance, but how many surpass a drafted player in their first season?  That removes Carter.

 

Baltimore is always more loyal to it's on draft picks than to a free agent.  Aiken came from another team and has a skill set that, quite honestly, Brown and many others could duplicate.  

 

The rookie drill videos show Waller looking good out there AND getting attention from coaches.  You better believe that they want him on the team.  They want that size and speed.  Engram specifically wanted him.  Trestman loves those big guys.  Waller would simply have to bomb the offseason in impressive fashion to end up losing a spot to Carter (who at best would just be a kick returner), Robinson, and Aiken.

 

Oh and let's not forget, the coaches recently learned that you can't put guys you like on the practice squad and hope they stay there.  Remember how good 4th round pick John Simon looked in preseason?  Of course he wasn't a special teamer so they tried to practice squad him until McPhee left.  And then boom, snatched up from the practice squad and gone.  You better believe they were hoping to use his pass rushing ability once Pernell cashed out of Baltimore, and you better believe they won't make that mistake again.  

Waller makes the 53 man roster unless he flops hard in the next 3 months

[Purple_City39]

When trying to do the depth chart, I just see simply no way that we can keep 7 WR's on the 53 man roster.

To do this, we would have to sacrifice depth at two positions that we are truly injury prone at. I can find no reason that the coaching staff would keep a 7th WR on the team that would never see the field over a D Line or D Back.

I also don't think we keep 7.  6 is the magic number.  Perriman replaces Torrey from last year.  Waller replaces Jones.  That's it.  If anybody else makes the roster it'll likely be over Aiken as I think he's more expendable than many believe.  He was used heavily to start the season and then Brown got all that attention to finish the season.

 

Perriman

Smith Sr.

Campanero

Waller

Brown

Aiken/someone else

 

This isn't my order, just the WRs I think we keep on the 53

[GrimCoconut]

Waller has too many thinks going in his favor already over players like Brown (who I have loved since preseason week 3 of his rookie year), Aiken, and Carter. Baltimore may be the place where undrafted players get a chance, but how many surpass a drafted player in their first season? That removes Carter.

Baltimore is always more loyal to it's on draft picks than to a free agent. Aiken came from another team and has a skill set that, quite honestly, Brown and many others could duplicate.

The rookie drill videos show Waller looking good out there AND getting attention from coaches. You better believe that they want him on the team. They want that size and speed. Engram specifically wanted him. Trestman loves those big guys. Waller would simply have to bomb the offseason in impressive fashion to end up losing a spot to Carter (who at best would just be a kick returner), Robinson, and Aiken.

Oh and let's not forget, the coaches recently learned that you can't put guys you like on the practice squad and hope they stay there. Remember how good 4th round pick John Simon looked in preseason? Of course he wasn't a special teamer so they tried to practice squad him until McPhee left. And then boom, snatched up from the practice squad and gone. You better believe they were hoping to use his pass rushing ability once Pernell cashed out of Baltimore, and you better believe they won't make that mistake again.

Waller makes the 53 man roster unless he flops hard in the next 3 months

You do know that when a team goes to sign a player from our practice squad that we have the right to activate that player first right? We could've kept Simon if we wanted him but it's clear we were willing to let him go

[Purple_City39]

You do know that when a team goes to sign a player from our practice squad that we have the right to activate that player first right? We could've kept Simon if we wanted him but it's clear we were willing to let him go

Yeah, we could have signed Simon to our practice squad but there was just no place for him in 2014 and we would have had to cut someone else for him to be active on the 53.  Who do you cut from the 2014 roster that was already struggling with players and injuries (see the CBs)?  

 

I'm fairly confident he would have been used in McPhee's place this season which would have saved us a draft pick.  I get what you're saying though.  In the end, I just don't think Waller goes anywhere but the 53 man roster

[January J]

I disagree with a lot of you on Aiken - this guy ended up playing a fairly big role for us last season and made some crucial catches . Don't get me wrong - anybody can perform badly in camp or be out of shape and be cut- but I definitely wouldn't say Aiken is on the chopping block. I more so see camp as the wildcard - yes I know almost everybody here is really high on him - and if he stays healthy I think he's got a good shot - esp since he will be in the mix as a kick returner. I just see him having to battle it out with carter. Obviously SSS is a lock- our only returning 1000 yard receiver- and he will be kept for leadership purposes if anything . Might be his last year- and just the fact that harbaugh said he will be used in a more limited role kind of makes me think we might hold on to 7 Wrs , esp. If one if them is used as a kick returner. Perrimans a lock- our first round pick to replace Torrey and stretch the feild . Marlon brown is a tough one- Id like to think he is a lock- my gut tells me he's a lock- but there's just something in the back of my mind that's skeptical. Yeah they said his role last year was decreased bc of SSS coming in, but that's just hard to believe. I don't know what it is, bc it seems like he catches everything that's thrown at him- maybe it's just a seperation issue.

Idk, but I think he could posssssibly be the odd man out. Hate to say it, and i could be dead wrong. Waller is a lock- our 6th round pick, tall and fast, fits our scheme for what trestman wants to do, big redzone target. I don't know much about worthy or butler - but with all these other guys they will really have to shine to make it. So to sum up- 1)perriman. 2) SSS 3) Aiken 4) Waller 5) Brown 6) camp and carter fight it out for possible final spot and the KR/PR position. I guess it's possible we hold on to a 7th - but definitely not likely. Also does anybody think we might actually use somebody like marlon brown or camp for trade bait to shore up another position of need? Hasn't really been mentioned - but given the number of talented receivers somebody's gonna be the odd man out- so we could trade one of our proven commodities and give one of the younger guys a shot. All I know is I would hate to be the coach that had to make the final roster -sure is gonna be tough .

Edited May 11, 2015 by January J

[PurpleCity5]

WR1: Steve Smith Sr.

 

WR2: Breshad Perriman 

 

Slot: Michael Campanaro 

 

Other Options: Waller, Aiken, Brown

 

SSS is a lock, so is Perriman. Waller I think is safe and Aiken as well. I'm not sure about Brown, it's really foggy but I say he'll make it. 

 

I think Camp's spot is very safe and I think he could be a lock soon. He offers plenty of versatility for our offense. He can play on the slot, run plays and can be a punt returner for us. We value versatility and he gives it to us. I think very highly of him and we'll need a 2nd option as SSS hangs it up, frankly I think he could be that guy. Not only that but he was very efficient this year, he made the most of his opportunities and really showed he belongs here. I'm very high on him and knew him very well before the draft, he was one of my sleepers. I think he can work the slot and complete this offense.  

[GrimCoconut]

WR1: Steve Smith Sr.

 

WR2: Breshad Perriman 

 

Slot: Michael Campanaro 

 

Other Options: Waller, Aiken, Brown

 

SSS is a lock, so is Perriman. Waller I think is safe and Aiken as well. I'm not sure about Brown, it's really foggy but I say he'll make it. 

 

I think Camp's spot is very safe and I think he could be a lock soon. He offers plenty of versatility for our offense. He can play on the slot, run plays and can be a punt returner for us. We value versatility and he gives it to us. I think very highly of him and we'll need a 2nd option as SSS hangs it up, frankly I think he could be that guy. Not only that but he was very efficient this year, he made the most of his opportunities and really showed he belongs here. I'm very high on him and knew him very well before the draft, he was one of my sleepers. I think he can work the slot and complete this offense.  

Here's my deal: I really like what Carter offers. Yes, it's true that he would make 7 WR if we keep the draft picks and guys from last year on the 53, but I love what Carter provides and I think he needs to make the team and will. He provides what may be good ST play and looks like a good RS. That's important to me since we got rid of Jacoby Jones. I have to see if he can play gunner, but I think he could do that as well. He has the wheels for it. Carter is also a similar player to Campanaro and Smith in his size, and it's nice to have a guy like that for match-up purposes. I don't want to lose him because he's the kind of WR that gives Sherman trouble. 

 

I just really believe we keep 7 this year. I feel pretty strong about it, like I did about us keeping Hurst last year. 

[Cville-Raven]

Here's my deal: I really like what Carter offers. Yes, it's true that he would make 7 WR if we keep the draft picks and guys from last year on the 53, but I love what Carter provides and I think he needs to make the team and will. He provides what may be good ST play and looks like a good RS. That's important to me since we got rid of Jacoby Jones. I have to see if he can play gunner, but I think he could do that as well. He has the wheels for it. Carter is also a similar player to Campanaro and Smith in his size, and it's nice to have a guy like that for match-up purposes. I don't want to lose him because he's the kind of WR that gives Sherman trouble. 

 

I just really believe we keep 7 this year. I feel pretty strong about it, like I did about us keeping Hurst last year. 

I think that's very possible as well

[Rav'n Maniac]

Here's my deal: I really like what Carter offers. Yes, it's true that he would make 7 WR if we keep the draft picks and guys from last year on the 53, but I love what Carter provides and I think he needs to make the team and will. He provides what may be good ST play and looks like a good RS. That's important to me since we got rid of Jacoby Jones. I have to see if he can play gunner, but I think he could do that as well. He has the wheels for it. Carter is also a similar player to Campanaro and Smith in his size, and it's nice to have a guy like that for match-up purposes. I don't want to lose him because he's the kind of WR that gives Sherman trouble. 

 

I just really believe we keep 7 this year. I feel pretty strong about it, like I did about us keeping Hurst last year. 

I have to agree with you on Carter and feel he'll bring some excitement to the return game. I also agree we will run 7 WRs. We have done it the last two seasons and see that trend continuing. 

[Purple_City39]

I have to agree with you on Carter and feel he'll bring some excitement to the return game. I also agree we will run 7 WRs. We have done it the last two seasons and see that trend continuing. 

In week 1, we only kept six last year (Smith, Smith Sr, Jones, Brown, Aiken, Campanero) and 5 the previous year (Smith, Brown, Jones, Thompson, and Melette.  Thompson had a foot injury so we actually went into week 1 with 4 WRs).

[Rav'n Maniac]

In week 1, we only kept six last year (Smith, Smith Sr, Jones, Brown, Aiken, Campanero) and 5 the previous year (Smith, Brown, Jones, Thompson, and Melette.  Thompson had a foot injury so we actually went into week 1 with 4 WRs).

You are absolutely right. My bad, don't know what I was thinking. Thanks for correcting me.

[757RavensFan]

Surprised many of you have Waller as a lock already.  HIs measurables are outstanding, but until we see how he does vs the veterans, its way too early IMO to say he's a lock. 

[January J]

It is too early to tell on Waller- I think a lot of ppl are just assuming bc if his size and the type of offense trestman likes to run that he will be a lock. And they very well could be right- but if he can't run the routes effectively it will be somebody else. I have high hopes for him though. If any injuries occur with any of these guys (heaven forbid ) it might work itself out and the decision will be made for them .

[cushrinada1986]

Has that ever worked out? Fans suggest it every offseason, but I've yet to see a young player stowed away on IR ever actually play great afterward. They're usually gone in a couple seasons.

True, and tbh we never really gave Tommy Streeter a chance at WR. Would have loved to had seen more of him in the preseason.

[Moderator 3]

I guess the Jags saw enough of him.

@RavensInsider: Jaguars cut former Ravens wide receiver Tommy Streeter, Marcel Jensen, Jeremy Deering, Derek Dimke