Welcome to Baltimore, Breshad Perriman

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http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/2015-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-rankings.html

 

 

The team that selects Breshad Perriman seems destined to get lambasted because they’ll be reaching for an athletic specimen. His draft stock seemed to rise to that of a first rounder in congruence with his strong pro day workout. While that usually is not a good sign, the tape always showed an impressive player. The speed and fluidity portrayed in his workout numbers is displayed on the field. In terms of big-framed receivers, who move in an effortless fashion, Perriman may be second only to Dorial Green-Beckham. He’s also a better pure power player, which (along with the jersey number and hair) makes some observers believe they are seeing a version of Kevin White-lite. When he gets the ball in open space, he can elude tacklers, or run through them. Perriman could fill a role similar to what the Broncos ask of Demaryius Thomas. UCF did not get him the ball in space enough. 

 

Perriman has two big flaws in his game his detractors will bring up in debates about his merit; one I am more worried about than the other. While he had more than his fair share of drops, and bungles in traffic, I believe those issues can be corrected. Perriman tracks the ball, and positions himself well in contested situations, but just needs to more accurately time when he throws his hands up. He can be a bit too predictable in this regard. There are a good amount of focus drops, but those can be ironed out of a player, especially when his quarterback play is upgraded in the NFL. Perriman is also the type of player that makes his drops negligible because of the physical gifts that he’ll use to make big plays. 

 

What concerns me more about Perriman is a lack of ability to sell his deep routes. While he displays good deception, and never tips with his head, his eyes often give away whether he intends to go short or long. His releases also give his intentions away, as he frequently uses the fatal hop move. Savvy NFL corners will be able to read that like a book, and if he fails to correct those mistakes, he will be unable to function as a regular deep threat. Perriman shows some real potential as a route runner; his head use, quickness in and out of breaks, and some of his hand fighting tells the story of a player who can develop as a technician. However, he’s yet to weave the full tale together. In the end, Perriman’s positives outweigh the negatives, and even if he never develops, he’ll end up being a deadly weapon on the simple routes. You’d be surprised how some of the best NFL wide receivers are doing just that, without anyone pointing it out.

 

Edited May 1, 2015 by Static

[Bmore#410]

yup then we snatch a big TE to top off icing on the cake, brother. Flacco launches 'em all season.

i think if we can snatch maxx willliams or clive worford or even TE/WR devin funchness or the TE out of ohio st in the later 3rd

 

if not I think we go Dline or CB from utah PJ williams or maybe even jalen collins if we can  snab gregory early or mid 2nd round i would move up for him if he gets to the middle of the 2nd

[JoeyFlex5]

After a day to think on it, I like the pick. Let's weigh the ups and downs and compare him to Torrey..

Breshad perriman as a rookie:

Blazing speed

Good size

Good length

Great overall athleticism, agility, jumping, suddenness etc.

can make acrobatic and contested catches

incredible body control to adjust to the ball mid air

Inconsistent hands, mostly due to a lack of form

Bad route running but has he athleticism and suddenness to perform quality routes

Torrey smith IN YEAR 4:

Good speed

Average size, decent upper bulk but twig legs

Struggles greatly tracking the ball

Bad routes as a 4 year vet

Soft

Does not contest catches

Often fails to haul in any catch that isn't perfectly placed

As a rookie, breshad perrimans problems are all the same problems Torrey had after 4 years in the nfl. Torrey's problems looked worse than perrimans coming into the league, and perriman does one thing specifically that separates him from Torrey as a deep threat, and that is adjusting to the ball and being able to catch the ball even if it isn't perfectly dropped into his hands, all this added to the fact that he is much faster, much quicker, much bigger, and longer than Torrey.

Plus, if any qb can make something with this guy, its joe.

I honestly think his floor is pretty much slightly lower than Torrey's best season, and his ceiling is limitless if he gets his form right wih his hands and learns to refine his routes, he has the ability it just needs refinement. I don't think we take him at 26th if engram watches his film and says "I can't fix that". I think his turns out to be a good pick, it may take a year though. I'd still like to get a security blanket type of guy

Edited May 1, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[Dewy101]

Link?

http://www.120sports.com/video/v121658692/breaking-down-25th-26th-picks

[uhhhh]

They were giggling like school girls when they got mosely last year

Could it be, because he's from Alabama

 

They looked calm till somebody made the Alabama reference

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/videos/videos/2014-Ravens-First-Round-Draft-Presser-/5658bb0d-dad3-434b-ac3b-abfdf01fc844

Edited May 1, 2015 by uhhhh

[The Mom Gene]

It doesn't count - you mods must have inside word.

LOLOL.....  I wish that were the case...  I could solve a lot of problems if it were.

[BmoreBird22]

 

Except they gave it a B+

 

I see Breshad's FLOOR as a better Torrey with more routes and not scared of the middle and Im not even a fan of the pick

 

 

Gordon McGuinness @PFF_Gordon

Ravens wanted a deep threat at receiver. Torrey Smith dropped 5 of 13 deep passes in 2014, Perriman dropped 1 of 14 at UCF

 

Matt Miller and Chris Simms gave it a D in a video

[K-Dog]

If you hate the pick I'm definitely feeling more optimistic about him.

Favorite post of the thread...

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I love this pick. I think he will be a legit #1 receiver. He's got size, speed, runs a full route tree, gets good YAC, takes the top off the D... Just gotta work on those concentration catches.

[PurpleCity5]

I really believe Demayrius Thomas coming out of College is a more accurate comparison to Perriman than Torrey. I see much more similarities between them. 

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Yeah, Torrey had drop concerns in addition to having the tendency to catch with his body quite a bit due to his small hands. Perriman almost always catches away from his body and made difficult catches due to having to adjust to shaky QB play. He'll get better!

[JO_75]

For those who are interested, Perriman has already chosen his jersey number, 18.

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-draft/Breshad-Perriman-Decides-On-Jersey-Number/89f3b24d-e437-4d6e-a86f-12edd0a9f079

[sflegend89]

Just read through Demaryius Thomas' draft profile, listen to this, sounds exactly like Perriman's scouting report. To all the people concerned about the concentration drops, it was Demaryius' biggest knock coming out of college too.

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/demaryius-thomas?id=497328

 

"He can make acrobatic type catches but will drop some very catchable passes due to lapses in concentration, possesses elite size and physicality for the receiver position, has good top-end speed, consistently catches ball away from his body, runs sloppy routes and is raw with his route-running in general, needs to be more consistent with his concentration on the ball.".

 

 

(Go read Odell Beckham's scouting report, also had a noted weakness as concentration drops)

Edited May 2, 2015 by sflegend89

[D_UP]

It's like déjà Vu reading some of the comments. I had read the thread title again to make sure it didn't say "welcome Torrey smith to Baltimore Ravens". Welcome Perriman, seems like you'll be the new whipping boy. Taking the place the previous WB. Smh.

[polynesian15]

I love this pick. I think he will be a legit #1 receiver. He's got size, speed, runs a full route tree, gets good YAC, takes the top off the D... Just gotta work on those concentration catches.

A couple newbie questions for you:

You say he runs the full route tree, still he is supposedly a very raw route runner/bad route runner according to various sources. Is it just that his routes need to be tighter, smoother?

And another thing I've been puzzling over. How come an athlete who's been playing football for most his life wouldn't be able to run the full route tree? (E.g. Are some receivers unable to turn left like Derek Zoolander )

[Static]

A couple newbie questions for you:

You say he runs the full route tree, still he is supposedly a very raw route runner/bad route runner according to various sources. Is it just that his routes need to be tighter, smoother?

And another thing I've been puzzling over. How come an athlete who's been playing football for most his life wouldn't be able to run the full route tree? (E.g. Are some receivers unable to turn left like Derek Zoolander )

 

He has run the full route tree but that doesn't mean that every route has been crisp and smooth. 

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

I really believe Demayrius Thomas coming out of College is a more accurate comparison to Perriman than Torrey. I see much more similarities between them. 

 

 

I've been thinking the same thing.Except UCF didn't use Breshad on screens like Georgia Tech did with Thomas so I don't really know what he can do with screens.

Edited May 2, 2015 by HomeoftheBRAVENS

[ravensnick]

 

http://www.thebackyardbanter.com/2015-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-rankings.html

 

 

The team that selects Breshad Perriman seems destined to get lambasted because they’ll be reaching for an athletic specimen. His draft stock seemed to rise to that of a first rounder in congruence with his strong pro day workout. While that usually is not a good sign, the tape always showed an impressive player. The speed and fluidity portrayed in his workout numbers is displayed on the field. In terms of big-framed receivers, who move in an effortless fashion, Perriman may be second only to Dorial Green-Beckham. He’s also a better pure power player, which (along with the jersey number and hair) makes some observers believe they are seeing a version of Kevin White-lite. When he gets the ball in open space, he can elude tacklers, or run through them. Perriman could fill a role similar to what the Broncos ask of Demaryius Thomas. UCF did not get him the ball in space enough. 

 

Perriman has two big flaws in his game his detractors will bring up in debates about his merit; one I am more worried about than the other. While he had more than his fair share of drops, and bungles in traffic, I believe those issues can be corrected. Perriman tracks the ball, and positions himself well in contested situations, but just needs to more accurately time when he throws his hands up. He can be a bit too predictable in this regard. There are a good amount of focus drops, but those can be ironed out of a player, especially when his quarterback play is upgraded in the NFL. Perriman is also the type of player that makes his drops negligible because of the physical gifts that he’ll use to make big plays. 

 

What concerns me more about Perriman is a lack of ability to sell his deep routes. While he displays good deception, and never tips with his head, his eyes often give away whether he intends to go short or long. His releases also give his intentions away, as he frequently uses the fatal hop move. Savvy NFL corners will be able to read that like a book, and if he fails to correct those mistakes, he will be unable to function as a regular deep threat. Perriman shows some real potential as a route runner; his head use, quickness in and out of breaks, and some of his hand fighting tells the story of a player who can develop as a technician. However, he’s yet to weave the full tale together. In the end, Perriman’s positives outweigh the negatives, and even if he never develops, he’ll end up being a deadly weapon on the simple routes. You’d be surprised how some of the best NFL wide receivers are doing just that, without anyone pointing it out.

 

People seem to forget how Brandon Marshall's hands were his first years in the league. He dropped a high percentage of balls, but made a lot of plays. 

[ravensnick]

Matt Miller and Chris Simms gave it a D in a video

Lol Bleacher Report. Matt Miller is ok, but he had some guys way too high (Qunadre Diggs in is his top 100) and way too low (Eric Rowe as his 125 overall player). Plus they gave us a C- for Davis.

Edited May 2, 2015 by ravensnick

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

This guy is nothing like Torrey other than the fact that they're both fast and have dreads(or had dreads in Torreys case).He's noticeably bigger than Torrey,his movements are alot more smoother and he stops and restarts alot better.Only time will tell if he can be a playmaker in the NFL like Torrey,but I could definitely see him becoming a better route runner than him.

Edited May 2, 2015 by HomeoftheBRAVENS

[Cville-Raven]

Lol Bleacher Report. Matt Miller is ok, but he had some guys way too high (Qunadre Diggs in is his top 100) and way too low (Eric Rowe as his 125 overall player). Plus they gave us a C- for Davis.

lol, anything lower than a B for the Davis pick is ridiculous

[PurpleCity5]

Just read through Demaryius Thomas' draft profile, listen to this, sounds exactly like Perriman's scouting report. To all the people concerned about the concentration drops, it was Demaryius' biggest knock coming out of college too.

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/demaryius-thomas?id=497328

 

"He can make acrobatic type catches but will drop some very catchable passes due to lapses in concentration, possesses elite size and physicality for the receiver position, has good top-end speed, consistently catches ball away from his body, runs sloppy routes and is raw with his route-running in general, needs to be more consistent with his concentration on the ball.".

 

 

(Go read Odell Beckham's scouting report, also had a noted weakness as concentration drops)

I believe Thomas led the NFL in drops last year. Very similar with both coming out of college. 

[Inqui]

lol, anything lower than a B for the Davis pick is ridiculous

Bleacher Report. 'Nuff said. Anyone bringing up their rankings/opinions should give them an asterisk, along with WalterFootball.

[JoeyFlex5]

carl davis was the 2nd best value pick in the draft after michael bennett

[PolishRifle]

I don't get how a guy growing up around football has issues, that are coachable. Shouldn't he have fixed those by now with all the talent and experience that was surrounding him? I really hope those drops are just concentration drops and not a case of bad hand-eye-coordination. Perriman is build like Josh Gordon. It would be nice to have a guy of that caliber on the team.

Edited May 3, 2015 by PolishRifle

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't get how a guy growing up around football has issues, that are coachable. Shouldn't he have fixed those by now with all the talent and experience that was surrounding him? I really hope those drops are just concentration drops and not a case of bad hand-eye-coordination. Perriman is build like Josh Gordon. It would be nice to have a guy of that caliber on the team.

maybe his dad wanted him to be his own man and didnt hold his hand throughout his preparation? have you ever heard of barry sanders' dad? 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

A couple newbie questions for you:

You say he runs the full route tree, still he is supposedly a very raw route runner/bad route runner according to various sources. Is it just that his routes need to be tighter, smoother?

And another thing I've been puzzling over. How come an athlete who's been playing football for most his life wouldn't be able to run the full route tree? (E.g. Are some receivers unable to turn left like Derek Zoolander )

He will round off his routes as opposed to making sharp cuts and turns. He's faster than he is quick due to longer strides.

He runs all the routes, but needs to clean up footwork. At times he's not sudden in his movements either which can give away his route and draw tighter coverage.

At least that's my take away.

[sflegend89]

Stats don't tell the entire story of a player but they certainly mean something and are interesting to acknowledge. Here are some different stats to compare Breshad to the rest of the 1st round wideouts. 

 

2014 Receiving Yards 

 

1. Amari Cooper - 1727 yds (124 rec)

2. Kevin White - 1447 yds (109 rec)

3. Nelson Agholor - 1313 yds (104 rec)

4. Breshad Perriman 1044 yds (50 rec)

5. Philip Dorsett - 877 yds (36 rec)

6. Devante Parker - 855 yds (43 rec) *injured, only played 7 games

 

Analysis: Perriman was super efficient, just didn't receive the necessary volume to put up the monster yardage totals. He was hypothetically on pace for over 2000 yds if he got 100 receptions like the guys above him. Cooper's numbers definitely jump up at you, true workhorse and playmaker, that kind of volume and production is reminiscent of Antonio Brown. Parker could be #2 potentially if he doesn't get hurt.

 

Receiving Yards per Reception

 

1. Philip Dorsett - 24.2 yds/rec

2. Breshad Perriman - 20.9 yds/rec

3. Devante Parker - 19.9 yds/rec

4. Amari Cooper - 13.9 yds/rec

5. Kevin White 13.3 yds/rec

6. Nelson Agholor 12.6 yds/rec

 

Analysis: Obviously it's expected that the 100+ reception guys would have lower averages but this is an impressive stat for Perriman. Dorsett's 24.2 was more of an anomaly due to his low 36 receptions, in 2013 Dorsett had 58 rec and only managed a 14.5 average. Perriman has actually managed to be over 20.0 for two consecutive seasons. Definitely get's my nod as the best deep threat in this class.

 

TD's per Reception

 

1. Philip Dorsett - 3.6 (10 TDs on 36 rec)

2. Breshad Perriman - 5.5 (9 TD's on 50 rec)

3. Amari Cooper - 7.6 (16 TD's on 124 rec)

4. Nelson Agholor - 8.6 (12 TD's on 104 rec)

T4. Devante Parker - 8.6 (5 TD's on 43 rec) *in 7 games played

5. Kevin White - 10.9 (10 TD's on 109 rec)

 

Analysis: Dorsett and Perriman get the nod for efficiency, those are two guys who had limited opportunities but put the ball in the endzone when they got the chance. Scoring every 5.5 catches is a strong number for Perriman. Still I find Cooper the most impressive considering his efficiency for how much volume he had and how many TD's he scored. Kevin White only had 1 more TD than Perriman on over double the receptions, one of the most intriguing stats I discovered. Perriman and Dorsett are serious threats with the ball in their hands.

 

Historical Comparison

 

Breshad Perriman's Final Season (Junior):

50 Rec, 1044 yds, 9 TD's

 

Demaryius Thomas Final Season (Junior)

46 Rec, 1154 yds, 8 TD's

 

 

Final Analysis from these stats:

 

This appears to be a really good 1st round WR class much like last year (although not quite as dominant). I don't see any of these 6 guys being a bust, just that some will be more dominant than others. I think Cooper is unquestionably the crown jewel of this WR class, that much is clear. Perriman and Dorsett are both really raw but you can see what kind of playmakers they are with the ball in their hands. Perriman with his frame and height intrigues me even more than Dorsett in that regard. Kevin White looks really good but he will be more of a dominant possession WR than people realize.

 

To me the similarities between Perriman and Demaryius Thomas have really become apparent. Similar builds, similar weaknesses coming out of college, both guys who never got high volume in college and teams couldn't pull the trigger on in the top 20. I think Perriman projects just shy of Thomas long term.

 

Interesting how the 1st round WR's break down statistically, you have Cooper, White, Agholor who have all been high volume targets and had over 100 receptions and 1000 yds in a season. Then you have Parker who was on his way to that high volume season in 2014 and got hurt. Finally you have Perriman and Dorsett who had the least volume but also had the most efficiency making plays. The real question is what happens when you give those two playmakers the type of volume that the other guys have had? I think Perriman was a phenomenal value at 26 and his size, strength, and durability make him more desirable than Dorsett.

Edited May 3, 2015 by sflegend89

[polynesian15]

I don't get how a guy growing up around football has issues, that are coachable. Shouldn't he have fixed those by now with all the talent and experience that was surrounding him? I really hope those drops are just concentration drops and not a case of bad hand-eye-coordination. Perriman is build like Josh Gordon. It would be nice to have a guy of that caliber on the team.

Is there any footage of his drops that I can check out? All the tape I've seen so far shows a natural hands catcher.

In fact, the only drop I remember seeing was the over-the-shoulder against ECU I believe.

It sounds like quite a few people on here expect him to drop 80% of his targets. Until proven otherwise I say his hands are pretty much a non-issue, what I'm more eager to see is the development of his route running.

It certainly would be nice to have a possible future 80-100 rec/1300-1500 yards/10-15 TD receiver in our flock.

Edited May 3, 2015 by polynesian15

[Ravenslifer]

Something to consider with Perriman's drops and seeming lack of production is the QB throwing to him.  I'm pretty sure WVU runs a pro-style offense or at least pro-style route concepts, so the comparison to Kevin White is fair - White's quarterback completed 67 percent of his passes last year, where Perriman's completed just 56 percent of his.  White had a better quarterback, so it stands to reason that he probably saw a better quality of throw on a consistent basis and thus had more receptions and fewer drops.