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For what it's worth, the Bengals fans don't seem too excited at the prospect of Joe having another weapon. And they're in meltdown over taking Ogbuehi at 21.

Can't say I blame them with Humphries still on the board. Him being smaller and quicker than most tackles could have made him perfect for dealing with edge rushers in 3-4 defenses, and the rest of their division runs a 3-4.

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Thought about this overnight, both the pros and cons. I keep coming back to the thought that if he is basically Torrey II, then I'll take that. We did pretty well most of the time with Torrey and, if Perriman is already at that level, his ceiling must be much higher. His willingness to fight for the ball already sets him ahead.

 

I agree 100% ... I'd also like to add the caveat that he's a little bigger than Torrey at 6'2, which will be a nice improvement. 

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As long as he works harder than this: 

 

 

I'm fine with a high upside pick with a floor of being a decent deep threat (coincidentally, a huge need in our offense).

 

This is the finest WR prospect we've had in the last ten years and he's only 21 years old.

 

With Steve Smith Sr. mentoring and our surprisingly decent development of wide receivers as of late, this is the only time that every fundamental factor points to us taking a shot at a project WR with HUGE potential.

 

We NEEDED a new WR to have any shot this year, and Perriman will certainly produce TD's in Trestman's offense with Joe Flacco throwing him the ball.

 

Think Kelvin Benjamin. Perriman may not be a top 10 receiver but he will give us the production we desperately need this year. 

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I can honestly NEVER remember you posting anything positive, please go away

He's got an honourable spot on my ignore list now. Worst case it means I won't have the day two picks spoiled, which I think I can live with.

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Perriman can fix his drops. He highpoints tge ball, competes for it, and catches with his hands. He seems to be a hard worker, with the likes of Irvin mentoring him. Add in Trestman, who got the most out of Jeffery, Engram, who was an excellent technique / possession receiver, and Steve Smith, who can further mentor him, and Perriman is in the perfect place to develop into a stud. At the very least, he adds they dimension of explosiveness back to our O.

I agree with this - it seems his drops are about him struggling with timing, such as his really dismal drop against ECU coming because he took half a second too long to get his hands up. I'm not sure if it's correctable (whether he struggles a bit with hand-eye co-ordination or it's just a tracking issue that he can learn to improve or whatever the main issue is), but we'll see. And as someone else said, what we have right now is basically a bigger version of Torrey who hands-catches, so we're probably looking at an upgrade either way.

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Anyone remember Eric DeCosta saying that he felt like an elite WR would be there for us at 25? I'm thinking that Perriman was the guy the whole time.

Well listening to the presser, DeCosta said he incorrectly predicted the pick this year, i think that ended at 3 year streak for him and Ozzie said if Perriman wasn't there they would have traded out. So with guys like Strong, Dorsett, Smith and some other guys who were projected at possible 1st round WRs still on the board it definitely looks like Perriman was targeted by the Ravens.

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Thought about this overnight, both the pros and cons. I keep coming back to the thought that if he is basically Torrey II, then I'll take that. We did pretty well most of the time with Torrey and, if Perriman is already at that level, his ceiling must be much higher. His willingness to fight for the ball already sets him ahead.

 

The other thing about taking him first round is we get that extra fifth year of his contract if we need it.

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Thought about this overnight, both the pros and cons. I keep coming back to the thought that if he is basically Torrey II, then I'll take that. We did pretty well most of the time with Torrey and, if Perriman is already at that level, his ceiling must be much higher. His willingness to fight for the ball already sets him ahead.

That's what I've been saying. I wasn't thrilled with the pick because of the drops but Perriman is at LEAST another Torrey but the potential is a legit #1. Michael Irvin compared him to Andre Johnson for crying out loud.

 

Some fans may not like it from a value perspective because we got Torrey a full round later than Perriman but think of where our offense would have been without Torrey these last 4 years. We need a deep threat for this offense to be at its best.

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I agree with this - it seems his drops are about him struggling with timing, such as his really dismal drop against ECU coming because he took half a second too long to get his hands up. I'm not sure if it's correctable (whether he struggles a bit with hand-eye co-ordination or it's just a tracking issue that he can learn to improve or whatever the main issue is), but we'll see. And as someone else said, what we have right now is basically a bigger version of Torrey who hands-catches, so we're probably looking at an upgrade either way.

Agreed, he seem more of a "natural" than Torrey was coming out. The more I think about Perriman, the more I like it. I would be happy if we could get another WR like Crowder who can make an impact on STs later on. Add a TE either later, or a guy like Gresham after the draft and our offense would be in better shape than it was last year at this time. It will be really interesting to see what we do in the 4th and 5th with all of those picks!!!!

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He's got an honourable spot on my ignore list now. Worst case it means I won't have the day two picks spoiled, which I think I can live with.

He should have been banned for that

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He's got an honourable spot on my ignore list now. Worst case it means I won't have the day two picks spoiled, which I think I can live with.

haha that's the unintended benefit of draft season. helps you weed out the snobs and the delusional.

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The guy is a bigger, faster (which is hard to be) version of torrey smith. If he plays with ANY intensity, he will already have that advantage over torrey. Sure he needs some work, but most of the prospects do around pick 26. He will be fine

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Thought about this overnight, both the pros and cons. I keep coming back to the thought that if he is basically Torrey II, then I'll take that. We did pretty well most of the time with Torrey and, if Perriman is already at that level, his ceiling must be much higher. His willingness to fight for the ball already sets him ahead.

I'm with you on this pick-up. I thought about it overnight and came to the conclusion that although a defensive pick would have (hopefully) helped the defense get the ball back to the offense, Perriman will (hopefully) help the offense keep the ball once they have it. Also, the FO having Perriman as the 14-15 best on the board gives me a much better feeling.

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I don't like the Stephen Hill comparison at all! Hill was a freak athlete that showed no intensity or fire. He was afraid of contact and would not fight for contested passes. Hill had problems with drops, but as a GT fan, I never had hope for him because he didn't show the desire to improve. I do not see that from Perriman.

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He's definitely a hands catch kind of guy unlike Torrey was. He plucks it out of the air instead of body catching. He also seems to high point the ball. Because of that I think his drops are fixable. I think Trestman could get a lot out of him. I was kind of meh on the pick at first, but the more I learn about him the more excited I am getting.

Great observation. I was about to post the same thing. There is a big difference between the two.

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Great observation. I was about to post the same thing. There is a big difference between the two.

Thankfully, yes. Breshad makes some tough catches in traffic. He has a bigger body. He can actually lay out for the ball rather than sticking an arm out.

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For the guys who are worried about his hands, keep in mind he suffered through horrendous QBs that forced him to often make extreme adjustments to throws. His hands definitely need work, but I also do not think they are as bad as made out to be. I absolutely love this pick! He has a seriously high ceiling.

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Wonder how he'll look with everything cut off..

Probably more like me, bald & ugly. lol

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What's the deal with ALL OF THESE HORRIFIC DROPS? On all the tape I've seen (Draft breakdown + highlights) he plucks the ball beatifully out of the air, and never let's it into his body. Most of the drops seems to be due to poorly placed throws and perhaps mis-timing between him an the QB.

Where is the tape showing him being wide open, ball on the mark and him making a head scratching drop? I'd be really interested to see that.

I think he needs some work on selling his routes along with more suddeness out of his breaks. If he takes care of that (with the help of Engram, SSS, Trestman... and oh yeah his father who played in the league for a decade) I think Flacco will supply the ball on the numbers so he doesn't have to contort in order to get near it.

I was iffy and uncertain at first, but I'm actually becoming quite stoked. I hope he develops nicely. Speaking of developing, do you think he'll add weight due to nfl weight training and all that. I like 6'2 220lbs better on paper, just looks more neat than 212  :)

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As long as he works harder than this: 

 

 

I'm fine with a high upside pick with a floor of being a decent deep threat (coincidentally, a huge need in our offense).

 

This is the finest WR prospect we've had in the last ten years and he's only 21 years old.

 

With Steve Smith Sr. mentoring and our surprisingly decent development of wide receivers as of late, this is the only time that every fundamental factor points to us taking a shot at a project WR with HUGE potential.

 

We NEEDED a new WR to have any shot this year, and Perriman will certainly produce TD's in Trestman's offense with Joe Flacco throwing him the ball.

 

Think Kelvin Benjamin. Perriman may not be a top 10 receiver but he will give us the production we desperately need this year. 

 

That play was unforgivable.

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I think I saw somewhere that he dropped 8 of 54 catchable passes, but he caught 50 passes, so that means he's catching balls that aren't "catchable throws", which tells me the drops are something fixable.

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