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Welcome to Baltimore, Breshad Perriman

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I think Perriman, in terms of an athlete compares greatly to a guy like LeBron James...hairline...

In all seriousness Im cool with the pick.

easily the guy with the best hairline we've ever drafted.   commemorating that xx (20 years) this year sure makes me feel old.

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One of my favorite things about him is that he really wanted to be a Raven. That's gotta help when you come in excited and ready to go from the jump. He said his visit in Baltimore was by far his best, and this team was his choice. It worked out for him; now he needs to make sure it works out for the team just as well.

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I also look at it like this. The team has plenty of possession receivers with hands. They lacked a big play threat. Why not get Perriman? At the very least, he's a big play guy that the team lacked. At the best, he can become a number one guy for them. He is full of potential

 

I see it a similar way. Worst case scenario I think he will basically just cancel out Torrey and be a guy who can stretch the field and make some splash plays. At best he's a Josh Gordon type and can be a true #1. It all depends on how hard he's willing to work and how good his mental game is, he has just as much talent and natural ability as any WR in this entire draft. 

 

At 26 I think that is too much upside to ignore, if he's in any sort of space he is breaking the first tackle, he has that Gordon-like frame that allows him to just run right through arm tackles. Usually when WR's have a frame like that they don't have the break away speed to pair with it. That's what makes guys like Gordon and Perriman freaks of nature, guys built like them rarely possess that kind of speed and quickness. Is he 4.27 fast on game day? No, but he can still turn on the jets out run any defender who doesn't have an angle on him.

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I love this pick; he's going to turn out to be great.  Hands problem? easy fix.  Big strong, physical body with blazing speed? Flacco is licking his chopsticks right now....lol

 

Welcome to B-more, Breshad!

 

Can't wait to see you on practice field, preseason and regular season....

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Totally cool with this pick. Great fit and I definitely wanted us to pick a wide receiver. Bout time.

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I hope we use him on screens often.

 

Definitely possible now. We tried it with Torrey and Jacoby but they just weren't built for it. To run good screens you need a very elusive and quick twitch player like an Antonio Brown or you need a big frame guy who can slip tackles and accelerate quickly like an Alshon Jeffery. Torrey and Jacoby didn't have the elusiveness or the frame to shed tackles and get up the field.

 

Perriman fits that 2nd mold, not that he will necessarily be as good as Alshon but with Trestman you can definitely see him in that role catching bubble screens.

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I can honestly say I don't know much about the guy and didn't know anything about him until about 2-3 weeks ago when Mayock moved him ahead of Strong in his rankings. So I won't talk as if I've watched anything more then highlight videos on this guy. So without actually seeing him play, the drops scare me just as much as everyone else. 

 

However Mike Irvin made an interesting point and it was kind of backed up by something Harbs said they discovered while watching tape on him, that really put me at ease thinking the drops won't be a major problem with NFL coaching. Irvin said in watching tape on Perriman, there was no other WR who made more clutch plays on 3rd and 4th downs then him. Irvin called them money downs. Then a comment was made that Harbs said the Ravens didn't start work on him til late due to him being a Junior, but something they found in the tape was that Perriman was much more consistent during the second half of this past season. 

 

Those two statements makes me think it's more of a concentration factor with his drops. Inconsistent hands doesn't mean poor hands if that makes sense. Also Mike Irvin compared him with Andre Johnson. Makes me wonder how much this guy would have developed if he stayed at the U. One of the biggest things I love about Perriman is his speed actually shows up on the field (in his hightlights). He's not a great route runner but he already seems to be an improvement over Torrey in that area so it's a plus. 

 

I guess the drops bother me a lot since it has been a specific issue our offense can't seem to get away from over the years. I just have one question:

 

Will he fight for the dang ball? Will he at least knock it down if he can't catch it? Or will he calmly lope into the end zone and watch the other team end our season? That is all I want to know.

 

Alright it was three questions lol

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I guess the drops bother me a lot since it has been a specific issue our offense can't seem to get away from over the years. I just have one question:

 

Will he fight for the dang ball? Will he at least knock it down if he can't catch it? Or will he calmly lope into the end zone and watch the other team end our season? That is all I want to know.

 

Alright it was three questions lol

You're right to be bothered by the drops, and he's as much of a boom or bust prospect as anyone we've taken recently (not like that's necessarily a bad thing, mind, just that you can't really fault people for being a bit apprehensive about him imo).

 

But one thing he does well that guys like Torrey and Jacoby have never been flash at is going out to reach for the ball. I posted a gif a couple of pages back of him making a deep contested catch, and the way he got his hands up to try and high-point the ball wasn't an anomaly from what I've seen. I hope he becomes a consistent catcher, and really only time will tell, but if he doesn't I don't think it'll be for a lack of effort.

 

I couldn't tell you off the top of my head about any potential intercepts he's faced, but I couldn't see him standing by like Torrey did.

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I need to look into him more but I don't hate him as much as I used to(no thanks to certain members on here, other members though(Inqui and Gabe specifically) did well though). He looks more polished than given credit for, just gotta get those drops straightened out. Plus he is a deep threat which is something we really needed after losing Torrey. Engram pounding the table for him increases my confidence with him as well since he will be the guy that has to get him developed. It took me a while to grow on Mosely as well last year, I just am a bit afraid on the boom or bust nature here.

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He's definitely a hands catch kind of guy unlike Torrey was. He plucks it out of the air instead of body catching. He also seems to high point the ball. Because of that I think his drops are fixable. I think Trestman could get a lot out of him. I was kind of meh on the pick at first, but the more I learn about him the more excited I am getting.

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breshad "money" perriman

Breshad "The Predator" Perriman

He looks like the predator and it sounds sick.

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I honestly think he has good hands, it's just a matter of cutting out the concentration drops. If you watch his game tape he catches the ball with his hands, he's not a body catcher, you can tell he's confident in his ability to catch the football and that's the biggest misconception about him right now is that he has "bad hands".

 

I like what Harbs had to say at the presser because I feel the same way, he's 21 years old, he's a freak athlete, and he's a guy who's on the rise with a really high ceiling.  The fact that he's on the developmental side is the only reason he was even available for us to pick. If Torrey who was a big time body catcher can make the type of progress he did in 4 years here, I'm honestly really excited about what Perriman can accomplish here.

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Welcome to bmore!!!! He wasn't my favorite player in the draft, but I'll take it!!! I liked him more than a RB or Devin Smith, so I'm happy. Can't wait to see what we do with our other 9 picks!!!!

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I kind of hope he cuts his hair... the last thing we need is for him to get taken down by his dreads like Torrey did that one time.

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I need to look into him more but I don't hate him as much as I used to(no thanks to certain members on here, other members though(Inqui and Gabe specifically) did well though). He looks more polished than given credit for, just gotta get those drops straightened out. Plus he is a deep threat which is something we really needed after losing Torrey. Engram pounding the table for him increases my confidence with him as well since he will be the guy that has to get him developed. It took me a while to grow on Mosely as well last year, I just am a bit afraid on the boom or bust nature here.

I agree with both of these points in particular. One of my pet hates is prospects that have a late surge in the draft process because of their athleticism (Cody Latimer last year) because to me they seem like more hype than substance. Perriman felt a lot like one of those guys this year (though like I say, I'd have taken him over Benjamin last year - for what little that means), but it sounds like Harbs and co have been high on him for a while so that feels more reassuring and I can defer to them on that enough to give him the customary three seasons to find his feet.

 

On growing on him, I guess it's about weighing up his potential vs being apprehensive of the risk - and where anyone sits on that spectrum is a personal taste thing (we all know where one particular user is). As I read and see more, I've been sliding towards the optimistic end (also because it's more fun to be excited about a new Raven) so hopefully he rewards the FO by becoming the legit WR1 everyone wants us to draft. How fun would it be to root for a top-10 fantasy receiver, if that's what he becomes? :D

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http://boards.bengals.com/showthread.php?t=132638&page=25

 

For what it's worth, the Bengals fans don't seem too excited at the prospect of Joe having another weapon. And they're in meltdown over taking Ogbuehi at 21.

 

My favourite from their board:

 

Originally Posted by D's Nuts and Bolts viewpost.gif
Kirkpatrick, Zietler, Eifert, Dennard, Cedric. 1 out of the last 5 first round picks is healthy and locked in as a starter.

At least now we don't have to wait for him to get hurt, he already is.

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The fact that the guys at PFF would've taken Perriman makes me feel better. Analytics to the rescue.

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The fact that the guys at PFF would've taken Perriman makes me feel better. Analytics to the rescue.

 

Link?

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Anyone remember Eric DeCosta saying that he felt like an elite WR would be there for us at 25? I'm thinking that Perriman was the guy the whole time.

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Kid comes from good stock ..... His father brad was a receiver for the lions for a number of years......

 

urgh…

 

that seldom means anything (actually its negative most of the time)

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Perriman can fix his drops. He highpoints tge ball, competes for it, and catches with his hands. He seems to be a hard worker, with the likes of Irvin mentoring him. Add in Trestman, who got the most out of Jeffery, Engram, who was an excellent technique / possession receiver, and Steve Smith, who can further mentor him, and Perriman is in the perfect place to develop into a stud. At the very least, he adds they dimension of explosiveness back to our O.

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urgh…

 

that seldom means anything (actually its negative most of the time)

I can honestly NEVER remember you posting anything positive, please go away

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Thought about this overnight, both the pros and cons. I keep coming back to the thought that if he is basically Torrey II, then I'll take that. We did pretty well most of the time with Torrey and, if Perriman is already at that level, his ceiling must be much higher. His willingness to fight for the ball already sets him ahead.

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