Welcome to Baltimore, Breshad Perriman

[Drew P]

It's pointless to debate whatever the hell he was in college he needs to suck it up. It's been confirmed there was no structural damage

[JoeyFlex5]

Lol I wish I could get paid millions to work out and play football. If only it were that easy.

that doesnt somehow make it easy for him to play on a bruised knee bone as opposed to you doing whatever super hard job you have

[JEEPercreepermd]

Considering that you're only wishing to play the sport at the professional level, perhaps it wasn't easy enough. Then again, I'm also not bold enough to compare heading to a normal job with aches and bruises to sprinting and cutting at full speed against elite athletes in a contact sport after spraining one of the four major ligaments in the knee; so we wouldn't agree with either of the two. There's a difference between being hurt and being injured, but that itself wouldn't do justice to the stark contrast between the two scenarios.

I've played contact sports at a high level not professional, but I was a step away when I was a youngster. Trust me, those guys have it made in the shade. There are plenty of professions out there that make Football..a kids game, pale in comparison.

[JoeyFlex5]

It's pointless to debate whatever the hell he was in college he needs to suck it up. It's been confirmed there was no structural damage

 do you even know what structural damage means? no structural damage just means it wasnt torn or ruptured, which still leaves sprains and hyperextensions and of course, bone bruises. 3 things that are certainly not advised for a WR with immense speed and good size, to go sprinting around on gameday with. 

[Cville-Raven]

Agreed

 do you even know what structural damage means? no structural damage just means it wasnt torn or ruptured, which still leaves sprains and hyperextensions and of course, bone bruises. 3 things that are certainly not advised for a WR with immense speed and good size, to go sprinting around on gameday with.

[Drew P]

do you even know what structural damage means? no structural damage just means it wasnt torn or ruptured, which still leaves sprains and hyperextensions and of course, bone bruises. 3 things that are certainly not advised for a WR with immense speed and good size, to go sprinting around on gameday with. 

 

 

 

Obviously no one knows what they're talking about on this one including the head coach. Its football you play with minor injuries. If a WR falls on his knee and can't recover in one months time then its time for an alternative plan.

[Tenacious Faulker]

then how is he torrey smith v 2.0?

 

this comparison is so lazy, ridiculously off, and played out that i am astonished that people on these boards are still saying it constantly. the difference in their ball skills is so astronomical that it is laughable to say that theyre essentially the same player

I've said the same thing, but most people don't seem to get that so I speak in general terms. 

 

v2.0 doesn't mean another incarnation of Torrey.  I've said he's an upgrade over Torrey in terms of a more complete receiver out of the box.  I've watched both their college highlites and he's better almost all around.  But they shared inconsistent hands and focus drops.  Perriman tracks the ball better and gets back to it in traffic, but has lost some gimmees.

 

The comparison really begins an ends with the fact they come to the Ravens becoming immediate starters and their lack of polish.  Perriman has yet to play a down, and I expect big things from him.  But I'm expecting he'll have some work to do in preseason to hit the ground running. 

[allblackraven]

do you even know what structural damage means? no structural damage just means it wasnt torn or ruptured, which still leaves sprains and hyperextensions and of course, bone bruises. 3 things that are certainly not advised for a WR with immense speed and good size, to go sprinting around on gameday with. 

 

I think it's also worth noting that it's particularly difficult doing sprints while wearing a brace.

[JEEPercreepermd]

The late great Herb Brooks, coach of the 1980 USA Miracle on Ice team said it best..

"A bruise on the leg is a long way from the heart"

[JoeyFlex5]

 I've said the same thing, but most people don't seem to get that so I speak in general terms. 

 

v2.0 doesn't mean another incarnation of Torrey.  I've said he's an upgrade over Torrey in terms of a more complete receiver out of the box.  I've watched both their college highlites and he's better almost all around.  But they shared inconsistent hands and focus drops.  Perriman tracks the ball better and gets back to it in traffic, but has lost some gimmees.

 

The comparison really begins an ends with the fact they come to the Ravens becoming immediate starters and their lack of polish.  Perriman has yet to play a down, and I expect big things from him.  But I'm expecting he'll have some work to do in preseason to hit the ground running. 

gotcha, didnt mean to come off offensive its just irritating that so many folks still stick with that comparison to this day lol

[BmoreBird22]

I liked him and cooks. I knew watkins was gone in the first 5 picks so I didn't even bother with that.

I actually wanted Cooks at 17 because I thought OBJ and Watkins would be gone 

[K-Dog]

If my doctor tells me dont do _________.   I am not _____________.

 

Just sayin'.

[52520Andrew]

Actually very true. He was one of my favorites, personally. I had him as my #1 WR by time the draft rolled around, and I know many others around here did as well.

Beckham was the forum favorite the year he came out, I was a little late to the party but I got on board by draft time, others were around much longer than that.

[GrimCoconut]

Lol yeah. Beckham had major hype surrounding him. I think the only way to miss that was to not be here during that period. I admit, I wanted him desperately. I still remember when he first caught my eye back in October of 2013 against Mississippi State. I thought he'd be a great option in the 2nd round. Lol I know right? Dreams those were.

 

Anyway, I really like Perriman and I hope he can get on the field. It would be comforting for us to see him do something. I know it's been tough on him like it has us. It's never cool to be nursing an injury when you're competitive and driven. I've had injuries myself and I hated it. I wanted to go back out to the gym the next day and keep on working. It makes me mad sometimes when I re-injure myself and need to take a day off. I usually end up doing something light or try to find an alternative workout where I can avoid the site of the injury. 

 

I imagine Perriman is like that. It's gotta suck for him, but I can't imagine this lost time will destroy him or anything. He should be able to pick up the offense if he's been studying. I hope he has. 

[allblackraven]

I wanted Landry in 3rd because I thought Ozzie was always going to go defense in 1st. Sadly, Landry went in 2nd.

[JoeyFlex5]

Beckham was the forum favorite the year he came out, I was a little late to the party but I got on board by draft time, others were around much longer than that.

i was late as well but when i got on that train i was full steam. i just had a feeling he was gonna become the best wr in the nfl, and he very well may be. ive never seen someone do such freakish stuff, at such an average size, and make it look so effortless.

[RayRocks]

I think it's also worth noting that it's particularly difficult doing sprints while wearing a brace.

 

It's also worth noting that Ray Rice suffered a thigh bruise his rookie year and missed 4 games (3 regular season + 1 playoff) and nearly a month because of it.

 

To all of the people saying "oh he just fell on it he should be playing," other players missed the same amount of time for similar injuries on this team and ended up being fine.  Perriman will hopefully be back before the last preseason game and maybe the Broncos won't be sure how to gameplan for him.

[January J]

Exactly. You can't miss what you never had. Let him come back and contribute when he's 100%.

except you can miss Torrey. Just to play devils advocate.

[The Mom Gene]

except you can miss Torrey. Just to play devils advocate.

 

except that I know that Breshad will fight for a catch...  He's got better hands too.  I just believe his potential is FAR better than Torrey's was.  Would it be nice to have that right now this minute????  Absolutely. I know it's difficult, but P A T I E N C E...  that is key.... 

[757RavensFan]

except you can miss Torrey. Just to play devils advocate.

 

We won't know if we miss Torrey or not until after this season is over and compare our 2015 WR production to our 2014 WR production. 

[January J]

I'm saying you could miss Torrey now that breshad is hurt and return is unknown. Not comparing their potential.

Either way I'm on team perriman all day.

[PolishRifle]

His lingering injury is starting to bother me. You can't replace real playing experience on the field. It's not like he's a vet. He can't afford skipping preseason.

[-Truth-]

I've played contact sports at a high level not professional, but I was a step away when I was a youngster. Trust me, those guys have it made in the shade. There are plenty of professions out there that make Football..a kids game, pale in comparison.

I see it as a case of so close yet so far. A high level is abundantly vague and it doesn't encompass the actual probability of having the physical and mental capacity to make an NFL roster. Unless you were on an NFL practice squad, or you were a highly recruited prospect who was derailed by injuries, your assessment about the distance from making millions is likely a generous one. Players who are paid millions for their services offer a specialized skill set, one rare enough that it keeps them in high demand. I'm not saying that they don't have it made. However, I am saying that there's a reason for the occurrence. If there was such an abundance of talent, teams could simply pluck similar caliber pieces from the street, making the current participants more expendable. Passing it off as a child's game completely glosses over the fact that in this case it is played by some of most athletically gifted adults in America, making the fact that the sport can be played by children wholly irrelevant. I would bet that the majority of those professions don't have a variable that continuously pushes back at the exact same rate indiscriminately. When I'm forced into coming to work with an ailment and my task is to haul around heavy objects throughout the day, I'm able to adjust my approach in such a fashion wherein I'd be able to be nearly if not equally as effective while protecting said ailment. Football offers no such option; there is no pause button. Opposing corners, safeties and linebackers will have zero let-up regardless of what the ailment is when their opponent is on the field. In fact, some are very well more aggressive if they're aware of the injury. The ability to play through the expected aches and pains is a viable asset, no doubt. But there is absolutely no reason for one to force themselves onto the field at this juncture of the year when they're injured and are risking furthering said injury. The risk significantly outweighs the reward. That's my personal opinion.

Edited August 28, 2015 by -Truth-

[GrimCoconut]

Lol I'd like to see a kid tackle Ray Lewis or even Courtney Upshaw. Hahaha.

[GrimCoconut]

His lingering injury is starting to bother me. You can't replace real playing experience on the field. It's not like he's a vet. He can't afford skipping preseason.

It's certainly frustrating because I know we all want to see the WR we've begged years to have. It's cruel fate to have our patience rewarded with absence. I'm sure there's silent concern growing among even the most confident Perriman supporters.

I'd lie if I said I wasn't concerned because I most certainly am. I'm worried our first round pick may not make much impact if any this year. With that said, injuries are a tough business. I'll admit I was hurt pretty badly back in February during the snow when I slipped on ice and landed on my right hip and it's hurt me off and on lately. I clearly didn't have surgery but these things take time to heal. I'm not even remotely "old" so that's no excuse.

I tried to allude to it before but injuries to bones and tendons take time to heal. These are professionals, however, and I'd like to think he and the medical staff know how to get him healthy. His dad did play for the NFL so hopefully he's guiding him, too.

[sflegend89]

Again, This is very similar to the Odell Beckham scenario last year. Hamstring injury, not considered serious, no tear found on MRI. Injury heals slow and he misses the entire preseason. Giants fans begin to panic, throw around "injury prone", "something is up it shouldn't take this long for a strain to heal".. all the same stuff you see on here lately. Not only does he miss all of camp and every preseason game, he misses the first 4 weeks of the regular season! 

 

As you probably know he returned week 5 and went on to set the league on fire without ever playing a game with Eli. That's not to say Perriman will light it up to Beckham-esque levels but it certainly proves he can be a solid contributor upon his return at the very least. This isn't an unprecedented situation for a rookie to get sidelined with a slow healing injury like this, just hang in there and wait until he hits the field to make a judgement. I honestly won't be disappointed if he's not back week 1, let him heal that knee up 100% so he will last through the season without re-aggravating it.

[The Mom Gene]

Again, This is very similar to the Odell Beckham scenario last year. Hamstring injury, not considered serious, no tear found on MRI. Injury heals slow and he misses the entire preseason. Giants fans begin to panic, throw around "injury prone", "something is up it shouldn't take this long for a strain to heal".. all the same stuff you see on here lately. Not only does he miss all of camp and every preseason game, he misses the first 4 weeks of the regular season! 

 

As you probably know he returned week 5 and went on to set the league on fire without ever playing a game with Eli. That's not to say Perriman will light it up to Beckham-esque levels but it certainly proves he can be a solid contributor upon his return at the very least. This isn't an unprecedented situation for a rookie to get sidelined with a slow healing injury like this, just hang in there and wait until he hits the field to make a judgement. I honestly won't be disappointed if he's not back week 1, let him heal that knee up 100% so he will last through the season without re-aggravating it.

Amen.

[K-Dog]

Ya know its not like the Doctors are Steelers fans...

[GrimCoconut]

Again, This is very similar to the Odell Beckham scenario last year. Hamstring injury, not considered serious, no tear found on MRI. Injury heals slow and he misses the entire preseason. Giants fans begin to panic, throw around "injury prone", "something is up it shouldn't take this long for a strain to heal".. all the same stuff you see on here lately. Not only does he miss all of camp and every preseason game, he misses the first 4 weeks of the regular season! 

 

As you probably know he returned week 5 and went on to set the league on fire without ever playing a game with Eli. That's not to say Perriman will light it up to Beckham-esque levels but it certainly proves he can be a solid contributor upon his return at the very least. This isn't an unprecedented situation for a rookie to get sidelined with a slow healing injury like this, just hang in there and wait until he hits the field to make a judgement. I honestly won't be disappointed if he's not back week 1, let him heal that knee up 100% so he will last through the season without re-aggravating it.

I totally agree. I posted something similar as well. I even found an article about it, which looks pretty funny in retrospect. 

 

 

Here's a fun little article from a year ago:

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/09/giants_wr_odell_beckham_ive_heard_quite_an_earful_from_fans.html

Not a true parallel but pretty similar and could have similar changes in perception. Remember that perception can change so quickly. I wouldn't label anyone just yet.

 

Perriman isn't quite the same talent coming out of UCF as Beckham Jr was coming out of LSU. Odell's routes were really sharp, and that's an ares I remember loving about his game. I was really impressed with his routes. Perriman isn't as strong with his routes so that's an area where Beckham Jr has a leg up (pun absolutely intended) on Perriman. They're both similar situations, though, absolutely. I'm not sure Perriman is the same as Beckham (and I am certain you're not saying he will be), but I'd love even half the production. Let's hope it's nothing just like Beckham!

[sflegend89]

I totally agree. I posted something similar as well. I even found an article about it, which looks pretty funny in retrospect. 

 

 

 

Perriman isn't quite the same talent coming out of UCF as Beckham Jr was coming out of LSU. Odell's routes were really sharp, and that's an ares I remember loving about his game. I was really impressed with his routes. Perriman isn't as strong with his routes so that's an area where Beckham Jr has a leg up (pun absolutely intended) on Perriman. They're both similar situations, though, absolutely. I'm not sure Perriman is the same as Beckham (and I am certain you're not saying he will be), but I'd love even half the production. Let's hope it's nothing just like Beckham!

 

Yup, exactly how I see it as well. Beckham was definitely more polished and that's why he went in the top 12 rather than the tail end of the 1st like Perriman. Guys like Mel Kiper said they wouldn't be surprised if Perriman did go top 15 and that speaks to his high ceiling but he's just rough around the edges in this early stage of his career. Cooper and Agholor are the only rookie WR's I see hitting that 1000 yd mark this year but if we can get 700-800 yds and 6-7 TD's this year out of Perriman that will be a huge success in my eyes because he will only get better going forward. I think Aiken is going to have a big jump in production this year so that combined with Perriman will more than offset the loss of Torrey. Not to mention Gilmore quietly breaking out and Maxx Williams as a wild card.