Thoughts on Trestman

[Sami84]

We do have Joe Flacco....

And we do have Steve Smith....

And we do have a decent running game with Forsett and Talliaferro.

 

 

is joe flacco steve young?

As great as steve smith is..he isn't jerry rice who's the GOAT.

[TDubbs]

Trestman will be a good OC for this team. One important factor to me w/ him is he has long term potential here. We were never going to have Kubiak for more than 2 years, thats just a fact. Trestman on the other hand tried out the HC gig and it didn't work, but he's a proven OC. I for one would like for Flacco to have the same OC for a couple years and see what happens. 

[Bmore#410]

Curious to see how the majority feels about trestman now that he will be running the offense? Optimistic? And how well do you think he will get along with joe and mold with the rest of the players/ coaches? I'm still kind of on the fence- but right now I'm thinkin it could go one of two ways - complete success or complete bust. No in between. I can see our offense either taking off and even topping our numbers from last year with kubiak, finally getting joe over 4000 yards, really utilizing marlon in the redzone , and averaging 30 points a game. OR- the offense is a complete dud, drives constantly stall out due to bad playcalling, and trestman never really clicking with joe and there bein kind of an awkwardness there. Not sure what to think- haven't heard much about him or from him since the interview when he first signed on. I never followed the bears much either so not sure what to expect other than the fact hes known for being aggressive. I just hope he's being proactive getting to know the team and what not. Just something to think about during the long and boring drawn out period before the draft. What y'all think?

trestman was brpught here to mimic kubs offense and I think joe will get along with anyone he is such a cool dude.trestman didnt get the nickname the qb whisperer for nothing. I think he will do exactly what he was brought here to do implement a system very similiar to kubs. Joe throved last year so this year i see him topping 4000 espically if we get a nice new weapon.odgb would be nice or marcus peters 1st and trade up in the 2nd and odgb.

[jazz1988]

is joe flacco steve young?

As great as steve smith is..he isn't jerry rice who's the GOAT.

 

Joe not Steve young but Marc Trestman has had success with other quarterbacks in the league not name Young.

 

Steve Smith is not Jerry Rice but I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to put up 1,000+ receiving yard season again.

[beasy2487]

Joe not Steve young but Marc Trestman has had success with other quarterbacks in the league not name Young.

Steve Smith is not Jerry Rice but I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to put up 1,000+ receiving yard season again.

Man can you imagine Flacco with the system and personnel Young had? Good lord.

[Alaska Alaska!]

To everyone concerned about the running game, it's as Harbs says.  He sets the tone.  We will retain our involvement in the run because Harbs has mandated it. 

[The Mom Gene]

I'm just sayin'... don't discount our guys.

[The Mom Gene]

Man can you imagine Flacco with the system and personnel Young had? Good lord.

I know, right?

[The Mom Gene]

Nobody has ever considered Joe with weapons...  Can you even begin to conceive what that would be like?

[52N19]

i asked a buddy of mine in Chicago what he thought of trestment. he thought he trestman had very good input on the offense but he wasn't strong enough to be head coach and that cutler was a cancer. his words not mine on cutler.

[ravensdan]

Jay Cutler isn't a bad QB..he isn't great but he has shown in the past some pretty good seasons aside from last.

there is 1 common denominator in trestmans most successful seasons as OC.Jerry Rice. He also had steve young at QB. I think deep down we all know that Kubiak is the better OC. He has been consistent his entire career.

so unless we draft the new jerry rice

Cutler wouldn't run the offense the way it was intended. I am going by Greg cossell's opinion last year. Who you would be crazy not to respect. He just did his own thing and refused to take the designed reads. I highly doubt that will be the case with Flacco.

[ravensdan]

The most important thing is adding a player to take advantage of Flaccos greatest strengths.

[Bmore#410]

Joe not Steve young but Marc Trestman has had success with other quarterbacks in the league not name Young.

 

Steve Smith is not Jerry Rice but I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to put up 1,000+ receiving yard season again.

trestman was brought here for one reason only and that is to basically mimic kubs strtch zone run scheme and implement the west coast offense that relys heavily on the run and play ation.Maybe he will put more screens in and put some of his touch in the system. Jay cutler and joe flacco are completly different QBs joe is smarter and doesnt force plays like cutler did all the time and cutle always throws off his back foot and really doesnt have good footwork period. I think its a great hire he didnt earn the nickname the quarterback whisper for not having success in this league and career. Joe should out up 4000 and yes it would be nice to grab somone like odgb or stfon diggs in the 2nd or 3rd maybe even lockett or phillp dorsett devon smith all would make an immediate impact. Id personaly like odgb we have never had a reciever with the 6 ft 5 from and speed im sure the ravens have a plan in ozzie we trust

[Ravenslifer]

trestman was brought here for one reason only and that is to basically mimic kubs strtch zone run scheme and implement the west coast offense that relys heavily on the run and play ation.Maybe he will put more screens in and put some of his touch in the system. Jay cutler and joe flacco are completly different QBs joe is smarter and doesnt force plays like cutler did all the time and cutle always throws off his back foot and really doesnt have good footwork period. 

 

A lot of people forget also that in 2013 Culter missed 5 games, and Josh McCown came in and proceeded to go on a tear of 1400 yards, 8 TDs and 1 pick.  McCown then parlayed that into a starting gig in Tampa.  So it's obvious what Trestman preaches can work.

[Bruce_Almty]

To everyone concerned about the running game, it's as Harbs says.  He sets the tone.  We will retain our involvement in the run because Harbs has mandated it. 

 

Just so there is no confusion about our "run first offense," the Ravens passed the ball 55% of the time and, surprisingly enough, ran it 45% of the 1,002 regular season offensive plays.

Edited April 26, 2015 by Bruce_Almty

[The Mom Gene]

Just so there is no confusion about our "run first offense," the Ravens passed the ball 55% of the time and, surprisingly enough, ran it 45% of the 1,002 regular season offensive plays.

Run first...  not run most.

[stampedehero]

Curious to see how the majority feels about trestman now that he will be running the offense? Optimistic? And how well do you think he will get along with joe and mold with the rest of the players/ coaches? I'm still kind of on the fence- but right now I'm thinkin it could go one of two ways - complete success or complete bust. No in between. I can see our offense either taking off and even topping our numbers from last year with kubiak, finally getting joe over 4000 yards, really utilizing marlon in the redzone , and averaging 30 points a game. OR- the offense is a complete dud, drives constantly stall out due to bad playcalling, and trestman never really clicking with joe and there bein kind of an awkwardness there. Not sure what to think- haven't heard much about him or from him since the interview when he first signed on. I never followed the bears much either so not sure what to expect other than the fact hes known for being aggressive. I just hope he's being proactive getting to know the team and what not. Just something to think about during the long and boring drawn out period before the draft. What y'all think?

No Middle ground.  Agreed.  Trestman either delivers the goods or he carbon copies the 2014 Bears in BAl.   On a side note: I would like him to use Jus as a TE and fullback.

[stampedehero]

A lot of people forget also that in 2013 Culter missed 5 games, and Josh McCown came in and proceeded to go on a tear of 1400 yards, 8 TDs and 1 pick.  McCown then parlayed that into a starting gig in Tampa.  So it's obvious what Trestman preaches can work.

It could also be that Cutler was a moron to begin with and his O line and almighty WR corp liked McCown

[stampedehero]

trestman was brought here for one reason only and that is to basically mimic kubs strtch zone run scheme and implement the west coast offense that relys heavily on the run and play ation.Maybe he will put more screens in and put some of his touch in the system. Jay cutler and joe flacco are completly different QBs joe is smarter and doesnt force plays like cutler did all the time and cutle always throws off his back foot and really doesnt have good footwork period. I think its a great hire he didnt earn the nickname the quarterback whisper for not having success in this league and career. Joe should out up 4000 and yes it would be nice to grab somone like odgb or stfon diggs in the 2nd or 3rd maybe even lockett or phillp dorsett devon smith all would make an immediate impact. Id personaly like odgb we have never had a reciever with the 6 ft 5 from and speed im sure the ravens have a plan in ozzie we trust

Lets add:  You can't have a successful QB,RB and WR corp without a solid O line. That parameter should be included in the overall views.  Your O line is either good and anticipates or they let the QB get the hits. I knew Cutler ate plenty of turf last year.

[Ravenslifer]

It could also be that Cutler was a moron to begin with and his O line and almighty WR corp liked McCown

 

It really is hard to judge any offense based off of how (un)successfully Jay Cutler ran it.

Edited April 26, 2015 by Ravenslifer

[The Mom Gene]

Lets add:  You can't have a successful QB,RB and WR corp without a solid O line. That parameter should be included in the overall views.  Your O line is either good and anticipates or they let the QB get the hits. I knew Cutler ate plenty of turf last year.

We learned that in 2013, didn't we?

[January J]

It really is hard to judge any offense based off of how (un)successfully Jay Cutler ran it.

exactly. If the execution is poor what do you expect?

[stampedehero]

It really is hard to judge any offense based off of how (un)successfully Jay Cutler ran it.

They did dump him in Denver. he failed in Chi town but was fabulous at Vanderbilt

[stampedehero]

We learned that in 2013, didn't we?

and...... MGMT fixed that in a hurry.       Now, we are regarded in the elite Oline conversations.    Joe had playoff success in 012 and 014 from his Oline but in my opinion, that 013 year depended on the last two games for a playoff berth.  Thanks  always good hearing from you.

Edited April 26, 2015 by stampedehero

[berad]

Good thing we're not hiring Trestman as a HC, which most of those negative articles seem to focus on.

 

Him keeping Aaron Kromer at OC - after he fessed up to trashing Cutler as an 'anonymous source' - was disgraceful. That's how you lose respect and poison a locker room. Now, Trestman probably was just being good to his friend without realizing the bigger impact on the team.

 

As long as he gets our offense producing and leaves head coaching duties to Harbaugh, he'll be successful.

[AsianRice]

Good thing we're not hiring Trestman as a HC, which most of those negative articles seem to focus on.

 

Him keeping Aaron Kromer at OC - after he fessed up to trashing Cutler as an 'anonymous source' - was disgraceful. That's how you lose respect and poison a locker room. Now, Trestman probably was just being good to his friend without realizing the bigger impact on the team.

 

As long as he gets our offense producing and leaves head coaching duties to Harbaugh, he'll be successful.

Some people just wasn't born to be a HC but great in other position otherwise...

 

I think Trestman will excel as OC....

 

As long as we have elite O-line like last year, our offense will literally score on any defense.

 

PS: Somehow Joe always had bad numbers against Marvin Lewis defense; I guess he knows Joe too well or something......

Edited April 27, 2015 by AsianRice

[berad]

Some people just wasn't born to be a HC but great in other position otherwise...

 

I think Trestman will excel as OC....

 

As long as we have elite O-line like last year, our offense will literally score on any defense.

 

PS: Somehow Joe always had bad numbers against Marvin Lewis defense; I guess he knows Joe too well or something......

 

Agree with you, we all know how important the OL is. Hope Wagner is making strides in his recovery.

[beasy2487]

Some people just wasn't born to be a HC but great in other position otherwise...

 

I think Trestman will excel as OC....

 

As long as we have elite O-line like last year, our offense will literally score on any defense.

 

PS: Somehow Joe always had bad numbers against Marvin Lewis defense; I guess he knows Joe too well or something......

 

I think it's a combination of the fact that our offense has historically struggled against the Tampa 2 because we've never been strong in the underneath passing game coupled with Lewis' familiarity with our offensive weapons. Essentially, the Bengals defense is tailor made to give us headaches.

[AsianRice]

I think it's a combination of the fact that our offense has historically struggled against the Tampa 2 because we've never been strong in the underneath passing game coupled with Lewis' familiarity with our offensive weapons. Essentially, the Bengals defense is tailor made to give us headaches.

I agree that Lewis is milking Tampa 2 defense on Joe and he knew if he takes Joe's deep pass away, he is in good position to make turnovers.  When we have healthy Pitta and Boldin, Joe is comfortable in the pocket cuz Tampa 2 is vulnerable to TE attack and short passes to physical receiver. 

 

Tampa 2 defense is a killer to Cam's offense and I think that's part of the reason Joe was struggling against Marvin. 

 

If we have big bodied TE with good hands, we can use 2 TE set to tear up the Tampa 2 or having quick small WR with great route running ability to gain some junks underneath.

 

NE is killing the Bengals cuz of that.

 

PS: This coming draft is crucial for our 2015 success and foreseeable future success of the team.....

[Tenacious Faulker]

I'm still concerned about what Trestman means for the run game, but overall I'm excited to see what he does with our passing game. We have zilch at WR. Let's see what Trestman makes of that

Whoa there!  All one has to do is look at Matt Forte's output when Trestman got to Chicago.  He has his best seasons in 2013-14 and even had his 2nd Pro Bowl nod.  

 

Also I wouldn't go as far as to say that we have zilch at WR either.  First, there's Steve Smith Sr.  Second, in the limited sample size we've seen from Marlon Brown, Kamar Aiken and Crockett Gillmore they showed tremendous potential.  in 2014 they had a combined 3 drops in 58 receptions (had 0,1,2 drops respectively).  In comparison, Smith Sr, Torrey and Daniels had 19 in 176 (Smith Sr. had 10).

 

That's 0.5% from the "zilches" vs 10.8% from the old guard.  Add in Joe's stated confidence in them and I think there is nothing to fear in 2015 with or without drafting an elite rookie in the 1st round.