Free Agency Targets

[ravensnick]

To put that into some perspective, that would be last among the top 33 qualified QBs in completion percentage. Lowest one was Drew Stanton at 55%. Not a very reliable number.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/completionPct/seasontype/2

Most decent Wrs will have around 60-70%. 

[jazz1988]

PI don't count as thrown balls, but penalties. Torrey hasn't shown much improvement in his game since his second year, so I warn he pretty much is who he is at this point. Their likely isn't going to be any more development. 

 

He might be who he is at this point but even that's not bad. The Ravens are not going to be able to afford a true  number one receiver in the free agent market unless they work some serious magic with their cap space.If The Ravens can't bring back Torrey Smith at reasonable deal then  they will have no choice but to move on but I honestly like to see him back.  He's only 25 years old which means there's still plenty of room for improvement especially since he most likely will be alot more comfortable in Gary Kubiak offensive scheme.

[jazz1988]

To put that into some perspective, that would be last among the top 33 qualified QBs in completion percentage. Lowest one was Drew Stanton at 55%. Not a very reliable number.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/completionPct/seasontype/2

 

Wow didn't know that.  I don't know what else to say. All I know is that Torrey was targeted 93 times this year and caught 49 passes

[52520Andrew]

Most decent Wrs will have around 60-70%. 

 

Honestly I am kind of neutral on Torrey, I just was curious to see how that stat ranked compared to completion percentage and it is pretty surprising to see that honestly.

 

Wow didn't know that.  I don't know what else to say. All I know is that Torrey was targeted 93 times this year and caught 49 passes

 

Yeah it takes me back a bit as well, I mean 53% is not good but I didn't think it was that bad either.

[Inqui]

I'm still not opposed to keeping Torrey on at a decent deal. He does a lot for the offence that doesn't show up in any numbers - giving Joe and Kubiak more ways to attack the field and being able to open up more shallow routes, for example. But I agree he will pretty much be what we're seeing now, so I'd prefer to try and keep Pernell McPhee or use his money to chase down a CB or something.

[rmw10]

I'm still not opposed to keeping Torrey on at a decent deal. He does a lot for the offence that doesn't show up in any numbers - giving Joe and Kubiak more ways to attack the field and being able to open up more shallow routes, for example. But I agree he will pretty much be what we're seeing now, so I'd prefer to try and keep Pernell McPhee or use his money to chase down a CB or something.

 

Probably how I'd operate.  Approach McPhee and see where his number is at and if its reasonable.  If its not, then I'd move on to Torrey and make him an offer at a reasonable amount.

[arnie_uk]

Wow didn't know that. I don't know what else to say. All I know is that Torrey was targeted 93 times this year and caught 49 passes

still can't bring yourself to criticise him. How about its awful?

[jazz1988]

still can't bring yourself to criticise him. How about its awful?

 

I thought it wasn't bad for a receiver to catch  50 percent of their passes. A more physical receiver like Anquan Boldin only caught 54 precent of his passes in 2012 which is only 1 percent up from Torrey Smith  

[arnie_uk]

I thought it wasn't bad for a receiver to catch 50 percent of their passes. A more physical receiver like Anquan Boldin only caught 54 precent of his passes in 2012 which is only 1 percent up from Torrey Smith

if every receiver caught 50 percent no QB could have more than 50 percent.

He also accounted for 50 percent of Joe's interceptions.

He doesn't have much going for him other than speed.

[BrianRandolph011]

Some players I think we will keep an eye on and possibly bring in to atleast talk too even if we know its far fetch

 

RB- Roy Helu, Jaquizz Rodgers, Stevan Ridley

WR- **Demaryius Thomas**, Eddie Royal, Kenny Britt, **Michael Crabtree**

TE- Julius Thomas, Jordan Cameron, Vernon Davis, Virgil Green, **Charles Clay**

CB- **Antonio Cromartie**, Brandon Flowers, Charles Peanut Tillman, Byron Maxwell

S- **Devin McCourty**

 

The ** ** is my indication that these signee's would make our team vastly better and place us into the Super Bowl contender category without question. and I will gladly explain each of them below:

 

Demaryius Thomas would bring something to Baltimore that has never been here since 1996' and that is a for sure big bodied./ big play #1 WR.

 

Some of the same goes for Michael Crabtree..very sure handed and would be respected as a #1 WR on a weekly basis.. maybe not as explosive as a Demaryius Thomas but explosive none the less.. I do not see us getting both btw. it would deff be one or the other if any at all.. 

 

Charles Clay while not the most popular of the TE's I listed and probably not the best either. One thing he does have over them is he is the youngest and doesnt have the prior history of injuries. The dude is a stud and would be affordable.. He could groom into something special with Flacco and Kubiak (God willing he stays)

 

Antonio Cromartie.. Cromartie proved this year he is still a top cover corner in this league.. With Jimmy Smith coming back if we could get Cromartie to be the #2 on the other side of that.. And move Webb to a slot corner.. Hell if that was our lineup Saturday night I think we are traveling to Indy this weekend to play for a AFC championship, it would be that good.

 

And lastly while I do have tons of optimism and faith in Terrance Brooks to be the long term answer for Baltimore at FS if you wanted an immediate and stable response now there is no doubt Devin McCourty is a top FS in this league and him next to Will Hill at SS could be larger than large..

 

So again while I am not guranteed we make all or even any of these moves.. I am simply stating the benefit of having each of them possibly come true..

[RavensFanMania]

Stay stay away from Roy Helu, although he's ok as a runner and pass catcher and he will get Flacco killed as he can't block.

[allblackraven]

Interesting.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000459232/article/nfl-will-hold-veteran-free-agent-combine-in-march

 

Combine for FA vets in March this year.

[ravensnick]

He might be who he is at this point but even that's not bad. The Ravens are not going to be able to afford a true  number one receiver in the free agent market unless they work some serious magic with their cap space.If The Ravens can't bring back Torrey Smith at reasonable deal then  they will have no choice but to move on but I honestly like to see him back.  He's only 25 years old which means there's still plenty of room for improvement especially since he most likely will be alot more comfortable in Gary Kubiak offensive scheme.

I agree. I just think someone may be willing to overpay Torrey and while I'd also like to see him on a short (2-3 year) team friendly deal, i doubt that happens.

[platinumxx2]

Would anyone like Trent Richardson (likely cut) as depth/competition at RB? Perhaps he could turn things around in Baltimore. We seem to like giving chances to former 1st round pick FA's.

[ravenz2752]

Would anyone like Trent Richardson (likely cut) as depth/competition at RB? Perhaps he could turn things around in Baltimore. We seem to like giving chances to former 1st round pick FA's.

I was actually thinking about that earlier. Bring him in on a 1 year cheap contract, make him fight for a spot. 

[rmcjacket23]

Would anyone like Trent Richardson (likely cut) as depth/competition at RB? Perhaps he could turn things around in Baltimore. We seem to like giving chances to former 1st round pick FA's.

I don't see what skill sets he brings that basically anybody else we could get doesn't.

 

He hasn't fooled people once... he's fooled people twice.

 

No thanks.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Would anyone like Trent Richardson (likely cut) as depth/competition at RB? Perhaps he could turn things around in Baltimore. We seem to like giving chances to former 1st round pick FA's.

 

All he brings is size and strength. Essentially a goal line/short yardage back. One who seems a bit soft/fragile.

We already have that guy in Taliaferro, who's actually better than Richardson.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Jordan Cameron might be able to come for the right price... Problem is he's injury prone.....

[cursona pirate]

Having Fitzgerald here would be insane. But no way it happens.

[Pirate88]

I think Fitz isnt the same. And Rob Housler has similar talent to Jordan Cameron but more explosive. A non WR/TE I like is Daquan Bowers. He has elite talent but out of shape and lacks motivation on a terrible team. We could get him on vet minimum deal and get him in shape as he will follow the work ethic of other Ravens players. He will be motivated by Ravens winning atmosphere and lure of a big contract once he is in shape and playing well again. He has immense talent and after the college season was set to be #1 overall player drafted til he showed up at the combine out of shape and knee issues at the time. Once he takes conditioning and nutrition as part of his work ethic he could be a great player and steal.

[PurpleCity5]

Rahim Moore FS, George Johnson DE, Shareece Wright CB, Tarell Brown CB.... are guy I think F.O could target.

[ravensnick]

I think Fitz isnt the same. And Rob Housler has similar talent to Jordan Cameron but more explosive. A non WR/TE I like is Daquan Bowers. He has elite talent but out of shape and lacks motivation on a terrible team. We could get him on vet minimum deal and get him in shape as he will follow the work ethic of other Ravens players. He will be motivated by Ravens winning atmosphere and lure of a big contract once he is in shape and playing well again. He has immense talent and after the college season was set to be #1 overall player drafted til he showed up at the combine out of shape and knee issues at the time. Once he takes conditioning and nutrition as part of his work ethic he could be a great player and steal.

Cameron is worlds above Housler, but had an injury plagued year.

[ravensnick]

Rahim Moore FS, George Johnson DE, Shareece Wright CB, Tarell Brown CB.... are guy I think F.O could target.

I'd really like Moore and Hill, that would be one of the better safety pairs in the NFL.

[Pirate88]

Cameron is worlds above Housler, but had an injury plagued year.

Maybe in production but talent Housler is right there. He had some big games before palmer got injured. Watch his tape the dude is talented. He is over 250 lbs now and plays as fast as many WRs and his run after catch is nuts forfor a 6'5 1/2 258 lb TE. He was raw when drafted but now really plucks the ball nicely. He is also a sharp route runner. He has been hurt by terrible QBs. I do like how Cameron is battle tested and could be a bargain as well due to his injuries. But Housler will be a total steal for what he will do with an elite QB. If I could pick I probably would take Cameron but Cameron is a popular player with QBs and coaches and probably will sign for more $$ than Veron Davis whom Is likely their top fa priority due to his complete skill set toughness and work ethic.

[PurpleCity5]

I'd really like Moore and Hill, that would be one of the better safety pairs in the NFL.

I agree, a lot of people give Moore flack for what happened in the divisional, I bet if the same play happened again, Moore would make the right one, people learn from stuff like that. I'd love to have Moore and pair him with Hill, secondary would vastly improve. 

[ellicottraven]

Something I've been looking at as I've been getting ready for the offseason is the prospect of signing a vet CB for depth, not a guy that should be starting but quality depth at the vet minimum would be nice, if this year has taught us anything it's that we should have at least some depth at that position with our starters being Jimmy and Webb, two guys that have had problems with injuries. I don't want to be caught again next year without depth. So a couple vets out there in no particular order: Charles Tillman, Terrance Newman, Rashean Mathis, Hold on to Aaron Ross (although he's had two serious injuries two years in a row). Also a vet DT would be nice, especially if we indeed let Cody walk. 

 

I've never been one for signing young high profile FAs...I'd rather take cheap vets or low profile guys, i think thats what our FO does as well. Seems like we get good value out of doing that and we don't have to tie up a bunch of money for high profile guys.

Aaron Ross came here because of Spagnuolo. He will possibly follow him as he's a free agent...

[hn68wb4]

Aaron Ross came here because of Spagnuolo. He will possibly follow him as he's a free agent...

why did you put "..." on the end as if i didn't post before Spags was hired elsewhere...

[ellicottraven]

why did you put "..." on the end as if i didn't post before Spags was hired elsewhere...

My bad. I didn't realize the date of your post preceded Spagnuolo's departure to the Giants.

[balfan23]

I'd really like Moore and Hill, that would be one of the better safety pairs in the NFL.

2 years running, we've tried to cover the FS position by looking for a bargain vet. Year 1 was a total bomb (Huff). Year 2 was barely passable (Stewart). I don't know that we can expect Brooks to be a starter next year, nor do I expect us to draft a starer ready safety ... so it would seem that we'll be shooting for that diamond in the rough for the 3rd straight year. 

 

Certainly Moore wouldn't fall into that category .. he's much more of a known commodity. I wouldn't doubt that he wants out of Denver. I mean, who would want to be subjected to the venom from the fan base that he's had to endure. But I really don't have a sense of what kind of money he'll command and I don't know if we'll pony up for him. I just don't think people appreciate how tight a cap situation we have.  

[ravensnick]

Maybe in production but talent Housler is right there. He had some big games before palmer got injured. Watch his tape the dude is talented. He is over 250 lbs now and plays as fast as many WRs and his run after catch is nuts forfor a 6'5 1/2 258 lb TE. He was raw when drafted but now really plucks the ball nicely. He is also a sharp route runner. He has been hurt by terrible QBs. I do like how Cameron is battle tested and could be a bargain as well due to his injuries. But Housler will be a total steal for what he will do with an elite QB. If I could pick I probably would take Cameron but Cameron is a popular player with QBs and coaches and probably will sign for more $$ than Veron Davis whom Is likely their top fa priority due to his complete skill set toughness and work ethic.

Houlser could be good with Joe, but I don't think he is anything that special.