Free Agency Targets

[RavensFanMania]

 

 

 Len Bias' (different sport but a local reference), etc, etc. Plus a ton of nameless / unfamous people who never make it.

Lets keep Len Bias' name out of this mess.  I'd like ot think that was a one time occasion.  :-)  Long live Bias!

 

[Pirate88]

Well for Blackmon, it's booze and pot reportedly. Multiple DUIs. Still suspended indefinitely from what I can tell.

 

Josh Gordon, reportedly weed multiple times.

 

Green-Beckham, just reading about him, is weed and DV issues.

 

Colt Lyerla is cocaine if I recall and he sounds like a junkie.

 

Apparently it is VERY hard for these people to stop using because multi-million dollar deals were hanging right in their faces because of their physical talent. We can have Oprah, Dr. Phil, etc on staff and it will not matter at all if the person doesn't want to change. The heavy incentive for them staying clean implies these people do not want to or cannot change.

 

Rolando McClain had work ethic / personality issues he had to work out. For whatever reason, he was adverse to conditioning tests so we traded him to one of the only teams that doesn't run one. Got our 6th round pick out of that mess. Ray Lewis was not a perpetual problem, one issue that was resolved.

 

For every Michael Irvin and Cris Carter there are a lot more Todd Marinovichs', Lawrence Phillips', Tom Zbikowskis', Len Bias' (different sport but a local reference), etc, etc. Plus a ton of nameless / unfamous people who never make it.

Most those guys that never worked out had no talent to begin with but I get the point. Don't forget these guys are young and still have growing up to do. Some people don't grow up as fast. Very talented players often do work out. At least One or more from this bunch of Blackmon,Beckham-Green, Gordon or Lyerla will benefit from strong leadership and make a team and staff look like A Genius. Joe played a terrific game and routinely threw into tight windows to a shabby WR unit against a great secondary. He needs somebody that can make a play on a bad pass and help him outout like Boldin did on several occasions. Like Pitta can do if EVER HEALTHY. Doesn't have to be a Julio Jones but a Deandre Hopkins would be nice. The risk reward bargains just happen to caliber. Somebody whom routinely attacks the football and makes contested grabs. We aren't sure how many 1000 yard seasons Smith Sr has. The free agent WRs hitting the market are uninspiring. Drafting a WR in Round1 is risky. Many WRs with a #2 ceiling are over drafted every year. Better trade up to secure A Dez Bryant than overdraft another Mark Clayton. Maybe Marshal would like to play for a top QB for a change. When we beat the pats we had attack the ball catchers (Boldin Pitta) and won. They had Gronk this time and won. Other than that it was 2 good teams and well coached. I know they had good corners but we need that WR that even good corners need help with and could have made a play on that int. Justin Blackmon or younger Boldin and that pass was likely a TD!

[Static]

I'm going to throw a name out there and nobody panic , Josh Gordan

Also Buster Skrine.

Edited January 13, 2015 by Static

[PurpleSnowman]

With the emergence of Adams in their passing game, and Nelson's fresh new contract, I think that the Packers will opt not to pay Cobb this offseason. Assuming Torrey will make around 5 million next year, I think that Cobb could ask for around 7-8 million. Would that 2-3 extra million a year make us not want to sign him. I would be all for paying Cobb a little more than we would Torrey in order to sign him. Thoughts?

[GrimCoconut]

I'm going to throw a name out there and nobody panic , Josh Gordan

Also Buster Skrine.

Buster wouldn't be a bad choice. I also wouldn't mind bringing back Williams if he's cut.

[Sami84]

Yes. If we dont want torrey..get cobb..hes so much more polished..

[GrimCoconut]

I'd love some Cobb. Not sure that's a realistic option though.

[PurpleSnowman]

I'd love some Cobb. Not sure that's a realistic option though.

 

I didn't think it would be realistic until I compared it what we would be paying Torrey. If Torrey makes 5 million, which he probably will, the 2-3 million jump to Cobb seems worth it. 

[GrimCoconut]

I didn't think it would be realistic until I compared it what we would be paying Torrey. If Torrey makes 5 million, which he probably will, the 2-3 million jump to Cobb seems worth it.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to have Cobb here. I say go for it if we can. He's be a great addition, although his contract could be inflated by the Super Bowl champion escalator those guys seem to get. If he gets to the Super Bowl, which is really a good possibility.

[T3hRaven]

Cobb's skillset wouldn't complement what we have particularly well.  He's a guy who gets open on matchups more often than not and his skillset is probably a bit more conducive to the slot.  That doesn't really mesh with the Kubiak offense IMO, and we have to at least try Campanaro as the slot guy next year.

 

If we're going after a FA receiver, it's gotta be Dez.

[GrimCoconut]

Cobb's skillset wouldn't complement what we have particularly well. He's a guy who gets open on matchups more often than not and his skillset is probably a bit more conducive to the slot. That doesn't really mesh with the Kubiak offense IMO, and we have to at least try Campanaro as the slot guy next year.

If we're going after a FA receiver, it's gotta be Dez.

Dez isn't even an option.

[ludy51]

I never did like Cobb on the corn..

[rmcjacket23]

Out of our price range obviously...

 

Plus, I think GB resigns him anyway.

[ravensnick]

We have a newly drafted RB. We have too many other needs to worry about drafting an RB right now IMO. If Forsett is reasonable, I'd rather he stick around and we focus on our other glaring needs.

True, right price and he stays.

[Tru11]

so you guys are already done with campanaro?

 

cobb plays from the slot not on the outside.

 

we would still need to get an outside receiver then to be the deep treath.

[T3hRaven]

Dez isn't even an option.

 

You're not wrong.  But that's the skillset we need.

[rmcjacket23]

Might as well go ahead and move this entire thread to the Free Agent Targets thread.

 

Seriously people... at least look at the open threads before you create one. Its literally the exact same thing.

[rmcjacket23]

You're not wrong.  But that's the skillset we need.

No, its the skill set we WANT, not NEED.

 

We don't need a Bryant type receiver in order to win a SB.

[T3hRaven]

No, its the skill set we WANT, not NEED.

 

We don't need a Bryant type receiver in order to win a SB.

Last time we won a Super Bowl, we had a physical receiver who'd fight for the ball.  That's what Dez is when you come down to it.  We definitely don't have that right now, not even in the ever-tenacious Steve Smith.

[ravensnick]

CB Rashean Mathis Too old

CB Peanut Tillman Too old

CB Cary Williams (if cut) Too old and not talented enough

CB Antonio Cromartie Possible idea but $$$

CB Mike Jenkins

CB Brandon Flowers Perfect fit but $$$

WR Cecil Shorts DIng DIng Ding High Talent, low price

WR Jarret Boykin Maybe

WR Eddie Royal Too Old

WR Cole Beasly Limited role, coverd by Steve and Camp

WR Denarius Moore No value, Jacoby's role but worse

WR Hakeem Nicks Intruiging, but give me Shorts (whould shouldn't be a jax priority with Robinson and Lee being 2nd rounders and how Hurns emerged)

DE Corey Redding Good rotational piece

DT BJ Raji No, NT and we got Williams

DE Adrian Clayborn No bad scheme fit

OLB Dwight Freeney No old and injured at this point with old Doom and Suggs

OLB Lance Briggs Old, injured, bad scheme fit, and too much money

I honestly really want us to make a move for Shorts

[Sami84]

Buster wouldn't be a bad choice. I also wouldn't mind bringing back Williams if he's cut.

Vernon Davis

Rahim moore

Draft WR or Corner in the first

[ravensnick]

Vernon Davis

Rahim moore

Draft WR or Corner in the first

Add Tashaun Gipson to your list. He's exactly what we need at FS

Davis maybe be a good idea. He's up there, but still got some in the tank. He a great blocker as well. Had nearly 900 yds and 13tds last year

Edited January 13, 2015 by ravensnick

[rmcjacket23]

Last time we won a Super Bowl, we had a physical receiver who'd fight for the ball.  That's what Dez is when you come down to it.  We definitely don't have that right now, not even in the ever-tenacious Steve Smith.

Yes, except Dez has about double the talents that Boldin did, and costs about three times as much.

[Sami84]

Im certain vernon would come here and for a reasonable price. Yes..lets for for gipson. Is he a free agent?

[rmcjacket23]

Add Tashaun Gipson to your list. He's exactly what we need at FS

Davis maybe be a good idea. He's up there, but still got some in the tank. He a great blocker as well. Had nearly 900 yds and 13tds last year

He's a restricted FA, and I doubt the Browns would have any problem signing him long-term anyway.

[ravensnick]

He's a restricted FA, and I doubt the Browns would have any problem signing him long-term anyway.

They got bigger needs. He could slip away (praying he does).

[Sami84]

He's a restricted FA, and I doubt the Browns would have any problem signing him long-term anyway.

Te browns seem to not only have tonnes of picks each year..it seems they have unlimtd cap..they hand out massive contracts and yet there is always space..

[rmcjacket23]

They got bigger needs. He could slip away (praying he does).

Incredibly unlikely. Restricted FAs are cheap and they come with draft pick compensation, which makes stealing one incredibly difficult and rare.

 

Plus, Browns have plenty of cap space and not many holes to fill.

[Sami84]

Yes, except Dez has about double the talents that Boldin did, and costs about three times as much.

Athleticly yes..but boldin had better hands and route running

[ravensnick]

Incredibly unlikely. Restricted FAs are cheap and they come with draft pick compensation, which makes stealing one incredibly difficult and rare.

 

Plus, Browns have plenty of cap space and not many holes to fill.

QB, WR, D-Line, Linebacker, Kicker all are huge, expensive holes. They aren't gonna get a good QB in FA but resigning some of there guys and signing a good LB and DT is going to cost them.

Edited January 13, 2015 by ravensnick