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He is expected to be dealt for a mid/late Rd pick or released

Domestic issues, he's coming off a year long suspension and he has injury problems. That's a negative. Whoever we get at MLB, they need to be a thumper. We're lacking hard hitters on defense. Maybe, Brooks can be that guy.

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He is expected to be dealt for a mid/late Rd pick or released

He also carries a 3.4M cap hit, which is a luxury I doubt we can afford. 

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Domestic issues, he's coming off a year long suspension and he has injury problems. That's a negative. Whoever we get at MLB, they need to be a thumper. We're lacking hard hitters on defense. Maybe, Brooks can be that guy.

I think Arthur Brown is the type of LB we need, but he needs to sort out his stuff. We don't necessarily need a thumper, because contrary to popular belief Mosley isn't a terrific coverage LB. That's not to say he's awful, because he was a rookie, but he's far from good enough to say we need a thumper. 

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I think Arthur Brown is the type of LB we need, but he needs to sort out his stuff. We don't necessarily need a thumper, because contrary to popular belief Mosley isn't a terrific coverage LB. That's not to say he's awful, because he was a rookie, but he's far from good enough to say we need a thumper. 

 

 

The coverage skills will improve, the more time he's in the league.  It's not necessarily just MLB, but all over the field.  I feel like we haven't hard a tough, solid tackling defense since 11.  Some say Pees, but it's a between his coverage schemes and the personnel.  The Ngata contract needs to be worked out quickly, because that's the catalyst for the rest of the negotiations and other moves can be made.  Til then, we have have no idea of what's going to happen.

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The coverage skills will improve, the more time he's in the league.  It's not necessarily just MLB, but all over the field.  I feel like we haven't hard a tough, solid tackling defense since 11.  Some say Pees, but it's a between his coverage schemes and the personnel.  The Ngata contract needs to be worked out quickly, because that's the catalyst for the rest of the negotiations and other moves can be made.  Til then, we have have no idea of what's going to happen.

I definitely agree there. I think he'll improve in that regard as well. 

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We don't need any WR. Joe Flacco walked into New England with old men Steve Smith and Owen Daniels, a hobbled Torrey Smith, and a bunch of people who are #3 WRs, and he threw four TDs on one of the best secondaries in the entire NFL, and even with two interceptions had one of the best games of his career. A WR would be nice, but it's not as big of a necessity as we make it out to be. We are not desperate. Retaining Torrey is probably what is going to happen . Blame Torrey Smith all you want. If our corners are healthy, we're never in that position. He's not a #1 and he never will be.. But that doesn't mean he isn't good. He makes defenses respect him.

 

We need to invest in the secondary during FA. Corners take forever to develop in the draft. It took Jimmy 3 years before he became a consistent starter. Same with Webb. Hell, it's Asa's fourth and when he was healthy he was a decent slot CB in his third year. See a pattern?

 

Names that are classic Ozzie Newsome moves

Kareem Jackson

Darius Butler(upgrade at slot CB)

Walter Thrumond III

Alan Ball

Davon House

 

Any one of those guys would put our defense over the top.It gives us a competent third corner.  

 

And if we do restructure Ngata's contract and Yanda's contract, don't be afraid to throw big money at a guy like Byron Maxwell. It'll never happen but great corners don't grow on trees.  

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We don't need any WR. Joe Flacco walked into New England with old men Steve Smith and Owen Daniels, a hobbled Torrey Smith, and a bunch of people who are #3 WRs, and he threw four TDs on one of the best secondaries in the entire NFL, and even with two interceptions had one of the best games of his career. A WR would be nice, but it's not as big of a necessity as we make it out to be. We are not desperate. Retaining Torrey is probably what is going to happen . Blame Torrey Smith all you want. If our corners are healthy, we're never in that position. He's not a #1 and he never will be.. But that doesn't mean he isn't good. He makes defenses respect him.

We need to invest in the secondary during FA. Corners take forever to develop in the draft. It took Jimmy 3 years before he became a consistent starter. Same with Webb. Hell, it's Asa's fourth and when he was healthy he was a decent slot CB in his third year. See a pattern?

Names that are classic Ozzie Newsome moves

Kareem Jackson

Darius Butler(upgrade at slot CB)

Walter Thrumond III

Alan Ball

Davon House

Any one of those guys would put our defense over the top.It gives us a competent third corner.

And if we do restructure Ngata's contract and Yanda's contract, don't be afraid to throw big money at a guy like Byron Maxwell. It'll never happen but great corners don't grow on trees.

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I think the thing that you are ignoring is that this isn't Madden... there are costs and consequences to every decision.

 

1. Aldon is a prototype 4-3 DE, which means he would either need to transition to OLB in a 3-4 or play DE in a 3-4, which has some significant differences in responsibilities.

 

2. He has a well-noted history of off-field problems, and basically another single offense would probably put him in danger of missing an entire season or most of it.

 

3. He's a FA in 2016, so I don't really understand the point of trading for him in a contract-year.

 

4. If he were to be traded and did play well, you'd be looking at spending significant amounts of cap space and cash on a new contract for him, funds that we almost certainly don't and won't have.

 

Ignoring everything else, those are all serious considerations that would have to be addressed before you even sniff a trade for him. Trades are never just as simple as "well he's better than any first rounder we would get", because that's not the whole picture of compensation being given.

 

All of this is moot, obviously, because you and I both know that the Ravens aren't trading for him anyway.

I don't play Madden but I hear there is a salary cap. Actually I played person to person b4 when I take my nephews for the weekend. But it doesn't count cuz I quit playing b4 the end of Quarter4 cuz they beat the breaks off me. But I catch the drift cuz i know you can't score over 100 points on somebody in 3 quarters.

I'm well aware of his off field trouble but that's why there are coaches. The ravens strong coaching veteran leadership, work ethic, discipline,motivated winning atmosphere and all around structure is a resource. Thee ravens can help many young players put their probs and or lack of motivation in their rearview. This is the NFL and every recent Superbowl winner has had impact players that's had some kinna off field occasion. Its football and if your team can help a young talent move in the right direction and walk the straight and narrow and work Hard and play hard and intense then that's a resource for that team more valuable than a #1 draft pick. And of course the coaching and front office has to do their homework on the player to determine if he is a candidate to move in the right direction. And who cares what other teams and fans think about our players previous choices. They just are jealous we gave that player a chance and got him to walk straight and play well. Its just jealousy cuz all teams have players with character issues. The patsies had their camera man kicked out of other teams locker room and caught recording teams practices and the evidence was destroyed but they still proudly flash their trophies and don't care. So as long as your confident you can keep a player straight why wouldn't you pick up an all pro talent. Talent wins games not singing in choirs. In the case of Aldon Smith this is a throwing leagueleague where rules are getting tougher and tougher on defenses cuz these rules allowing WRs to run free and Qbs to throw unchallenged are allowing offenses to draw up and scheme more and more plays allowing qbs to get the ball out faster and faster. They are taking advantage of these rules more and more and designing new plays and schemes as we debate this. And elite edge rushers and inside penetrators are the only sure way to ruin a QBs weekend. An elite edge rusher is to defense what a QB is to offense.

Of course you don't always trade your #1 or #2 pick just cuz its for a player you feel is better than the players at a position you want. Of course you can't do that all the time. But there are players and situations where you give up an early round draft pick for a rare talent or game changing player that you very unlikely to replicate. Especially at such a valuable position where one player can change a game. Or in the case of an elite edge rusher can make a terrible defense OK or an OK defense very good and good defenses dominant.

As for the salary cap we wouldn't have to worry giving him a contract for another year. And if we were to acquire an edge rusher another way it will still cost big$$ to sign a dominant rusher or you have to use a very early draft pick. Of all the steals in the mid to late rounds Edge rushers are the least likely. The skills it takes to get the QB off the edge are no secret and they do get pushed up so its not very likely an even a raw edge rusher that needs coaching and bulking and eventually becomes great drops deep into Round2 anymore. Jason Taylors who need work setting the edge or whatever will never drop to Round3 these days. Dion Jordan and Mingo went top 6 and they didn't even have 10 sacks between them!! They just had the raw explosion and athleticism that elite edge rushers have and if not the phins or Browns, other teams would have lined up to draft them top10. Getting to the QB is so valuable that teams are gambling on raw talents top 10 trying to find The next Demarcus Ware or Aldon Smith!! And if we can acquire a young Aldon for a #2 pick and some change and our only job is help him keep focused on football and stay straight its more than worth the gamble. Draft picks are a gamble as well. Look at Elam and Upshaw. There's always consequences when you draft or pay a player but its not like if Aldon does mess up it wouldnt destroy the team any more than paying a severely injury prone player with no outs built into the contract or paying big $$ to a RB with worn tires and visibly slowing down or an early round bust. The consequences wouldnt be any worse than those decisions as you make it sound. Nobody could say that's a bad decision. That player we take with that pick could be a bust while Aldon leads the NFL in sacks. He is a year older now and more grown up and appears more determined to learn from his mistakes than repeat them. An edge rusher that can single handedly destroy even the short passing game is very valuable and most of the time you really don't even have the option to get a player of that caliber cuz their teams don't even let them hit the market. Just like its silly to even bring up Dez or Demariyus cuz just like QBs them guys aren't hitting the open market!!

As for a longterm on a player with previous off field drama It will cost good $$ I'm sure but again cuz of the off field incidents his contract will probably be far more team friendly than the contract Justin Houston and Rob Quinn will get. Due to the off field probs and as a rotational player with Suggs and Dumervil he won't have 20 sacks his first yr in Baltimore and it could help get him cheaper than his talent warrants in reaching a longterm deal. That's the beauty of trusting your coaching, team leaders, team work ethic and motivated winning atmosphere to find the right character concern players and get them to play to their talent and take football seriously as a tool to walk a straight line off the field. You are catching a break in this salary cap era. Your getting a pro bowl player at a steal price and A game changing player you otherwise wouldn't have but instead would have a likely liability starting in his place. Could you imagine the secondary without Will Hill?? Would you draft DGB?? Truthfully I would prefer taking a player or trading for a player with off field questions as long as your he checks out than a player with questions about his talent and intensity any day!! The player with a previous nightclub brawl and speeding tickets has a shot to play well as long as your team structure can keep him on the right path. The player that lacks the skills has no chance. He will be a bust you reach to say something good about and make excuses for him.

The salary cap won't be a problem if he stays clean and plays at a pro bowl level. Teams always find room for their great players. Especially QBs WRs Edge rushers and cornerbacks. The ravens have a couple young players to sign over next couple yrs but also get cap relief when aging players retire or cut. N'gata Suggs Dumervil Daryl SS Pitta Aren't going to be on the payroll forever. Even Yanda in 2016 will be going into Season10. How much longer do you think Suggs and Dumervil will be 2 figure stat players for?? That's the idea of this trade it replaces Mcphee next year for cheaper than Mcphee will cost for next year and is actually an upgrade. And Aldon would actually be a longterm replacement for Suggs and Dumervil. Aldon Smith is a rare opportunity at a rare talent at a marquee game changing position that doesn't present itself often. Once he returns to 20 sack form and hits the market if he isnt franchised I doubt the ravens will be part of the bidding war. And for now the future edge rusher of the ravens looks like upshaw which means great QBs will have their way unless a replacement is found which is tough considering the ravens don't pay big $$ in free agency or give up mid Round picks to trade up to get a player they are confident will be great.

BTW Aldon Smith has played far more OLB in the 3-4 than he has defensive end. And while I acknowledge trading for him is not most likely but you shouldn't say out of the question!! Without being aware that a week or so after our game in foxboro, Decosta and Oz talked with a scout they respect and trust a lot. They talked about the game and he said to them something in the way of the secondary played bad in coverage and tackling and how Brady often got the throw off fast but when he didn't they could have used more help from the front 7 especially the edge rushers and at least some more pressure and hits on him could have helped them guys out . And proceeded to say they have harder times sometimes with certain kinds of Tackles and aren't getting any younger. He said however he felt Dumervil had a great year as a whole and what a great deal he turned out to be for the ravens and how lucky the the ravens were to get him like they did the Denver sleeping on the job and generally under appreciated him. And although his game isn't flawless and some blockers do give him trouble that opportunities like him hitting the market at all much less a time his value was on the low side compared to what he was actually worth doesn't come up very often. And with him and Sizzle getting older they will need a dominant edge rusher soon enough and they didn't wanna keep using draft picks on the glut of B level edge rushers entering the draft every year til they find one. He said they are going to have to get creative to find the Ravens Version of Justin Houston that wins off the snap next year and the years after. They had a long talk but I'm not sure how long or any details or what else was discussed. Just that they would have liked them to help the secondary more with getting closer to Brady with more hits on him on some of his throws and eventually wanna find their Justin Houston that can win at the snap and will get creative to find one. Aldon Smith wasn't mentioned and lime I said its not likely they trade for him cuz there are so many directions they can go but you can't say they wouldn't consider him either. Mingo is not a draft pick of Cleveland's current regime and they could very well be open to trading him. Maybe the ravens try to coach and train him up in the weight room and get him playing. Just another of many players they are probably considering.

I would say my opinion Aldon is as good an edge rusher there is. After next year he would be to expensive. Rare talents have to be seized. Especially at positions where one player can change a game and the whole team like QB or edge rusher or elite WR. A situation comes to mind where an assistant coach went from The Patsies to Cleveland after 2000 season. After one practice watching Cleveland QBs including #1 overall pick Tim Couch he said ouch this is what we have for QBs and Tom Brady went in Round6 What the ....... He saw Brady surpassing Bledsoe b4 any other coaches at foxboro did and knew Brady was going to be a pro bowl QB and had the fire and intangibles. Belicheat saw Brady as a top backup but not yet surpassing Bledsoe. So why didn't this coach tell Cleveland's head coach and front office about Brady and tell them to send a Round1 pick to foxboro if it took that much to trade for Brady?? Especially when he had no doubt Brady was leaps and bounds better than Couch or any other QBs on that team or in the draft. They didn't try to acquire Brady cuz YOU DONT TRADE EARLY DRAFT PICKS FOR A BACKUP QB THAT ANOTHER TEAM JUST DRAFTED IN ROUND 6!! Its considered "Nuts" something that's just not considered ethical or a procedure for longterm success. Its just something NFL front offices aren't supposed to do. Far to many reasons why it's considered out of ordinary and nutty cuz what if your wrong and it hurts the franchise. Same reason we shouldnt trade for Aldon Smith( however I do know its a different situation). #1-#2 picks are busts all the time anyways!! And Round2-7 steals have to be signed longterm anyways usually a year or 2 after they are coached up and actually become starters.

For the record as for QBs, I think Mettenberger is going to be great. And The titans are actually considering a high profile QB #2 overall. My opinion a team needing a QB should make their decision to draft a QB easy by offering them something for Mettenberger. I think Mettenberger is ice cold as nitrogen throwing the football.

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ravens why are we lookin into free angency for just a wr if we not paying attetion to were flacco is throwingthe football at on the spot of the field because this season he went up the middle or just up the field entirely to much cause him to throw int or worst the wr just start dropping incomplete passes holding penaties pass interfence stuff slowing up the game   im just saying joe flacco need a slot wr or te thats going stop on the dime and with reach someone who can get the pass lead to him someone versatile who can reach the ball on any spot of the field u know like running a WR corner play on madden someone how got hands like doss did after awhile he fitted his critia to the ravenss

 
 
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Once Mosley spends some time in the film room and trusts his instincts more at the NFL he will be far better in coverage and pursuit. He is actually more a thumper than giving credit for and can lay the wood for a LB that needs to fill out. His off season goal he said was to add quality muscle with out slowing down through off season training and nutrition program. His goal is A very lean 245. He should be a terrorizing striker next year. BTW Weather spoon is a thumper who is an explosive sideline to sideline player and great in coverage. He covets zones like a big safety and closes in a flash with authority. Washington is very similar and I think we could keep him straight. His salary isis actually a bargain considering he is as good as Lavonte David.

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Really?? OK prove its a bad idea. I'LL actually give u multiple chances. Name 4 edge rushers you like that may turn out to be better than Aldon Smith that we can get at #26. Keep in mind we only get to actually pick one of these players. But just to show how rare a talent Aldon Smith is and how difficult it would be to get an elite edge rusher, you can take as many guesses as you want actually of who will be better than or anywhere near Aldon. Don't 4get to ## your guesses of who you like best to least likely to be better than Aldon Smith. Playoff time next year you can check the progress of your players to see if any of them even flashes Aldons Skills and production.

 

 

Lol I meant insane in a good way, if Aldon came over nobody would ever want to play us lol

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I think the thing that you are ignoring is that this isn't Madden... there are costs and consequences to every decision.

 

1. Aldon is a prototype 4-3 DE, which means he would either need to transition to OLB in a 3-4 or play DE in a 3-4, which has some significant differences in responsibilities.

 

2. He has a well-noted history of off-field problems, and basically another single offense would probably put him in danger of missing an entire season or most of it.

 

3. He's a FA in 2016, so I don't really understand the point of trading for him in a contract-year.

 

4. If he were to be traded and did play well, you'd be looking at spending significant amounts of cap space and cash on a new contract for him, funds that we almost certainly don't and won't have.

 

Ignoring everything else, those are all serious considerations that would have to be addressed before you even sniff a trade for him. Trades are never just as simple as "well he's better than any first rounder we would get", because that's not the whole picture of compensation being given.

 

All of this is moot, obviously, because you and I both know that the Ravens aren't trading for him anyway.

Well, Aldon already plays 3-4 OLB for San Francisco, but other than that, I agree
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Lol I meant insane in a good way, if Aldon came over nobody would ever want to play us lol

Lol I know what u meant dude that its just very far off standard protocol of whats considered normal in managing personnel and assets. And if it doesn't work out the consequences you have 2 answer to will be stricter for making an unorthodox move. And it will be a lightning rod for criticism and stand out like Rosie O'Donnell with Victoria secret models if somebody traded a #1-#2 pick for a QB that just went in Rd6 or for an edge rusher that was suspended. And I never said the move wouldnt look peculiar but that the front office should trust scouting and coaches judgment and ability to lead players in the right direction. Most of the steals are from off field drama or small schools cuz the unwritten rules say Warren Sapp shouldn't go #1 overall that its to high to take a player with some drama. For the record we have nothing to lose giving Colt Lyera a shot. If conditioned and concetrated on football and working hard on the field and with the coaches off it he will be the best TE in the NFL. He is faster than Gronk more athletic and when conditioned he is functionally stronger than Gronk and tougher. He is a smart dude who had a bad upbringing and just finding his way. He is a chatacter and majors in drama off the field but he is smart and also has character and is a good teammate. The stories I hear bout that dude are like no other player ever!! In practice he lines up at safety and covers a deep threat downfield then lines up at TE or in the backfield and blocks an edge rusher like an OT. As a TE he runs by defensive backs and drags LBs. He ran a best time if 4.52 at combine/proday when he was out of shape. He can be kept in the right direction with good leadership and mentors. Kyle Long was like his big brother and Colt was awesome that year and worked as hard as any player. He was 6'4 258 lbs and in shape. That's when he impressed coaches and teammates lining up at all those positions. A WR in the NFL said he was the best player he ever player with or against and garunteed if he stayed straight will be the best TE and one of best players in the NFL at any position. Not saying he can be trusted yet but Ravens should sign him and give him a shot in my opinion. He is far more physical and talented than Eric Ebron who went #10 overall. Next to Brady Gronk is the pride of the patsies. It would just be to cool to see a ravens TE outperform Gronk!! And watch the patsie hypocrites cry about Colts former drama. If Blackmon agrees to commissioners strict testing and rules I think the ravens should at least check into it and determine if he has changed. He is a smart well mannered guy and a hard worker.

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Lol I know what u meant dude that its just very far off standard protocol of whats considered normal in managing personnel and assets. And if it doesn't work out the consequences you have 2 answer to will be stricter for making an unorthodox move. And it will be a lightning rod for criticism and stand out like Rosie O'Donnell with Victoria secret models if somebody traded a #1-#2 pick for a QB that just went in Rd6 or for an edge rusher that was suspended. And I never said the move wouldnt look peculiar but that the front office should trust scouting and coaches judgment and ability to lead players in the right direction. Most of the steals are from off field drama or small schools cuz the unwritten rules say Warren Sapp shouldn't go #1 overall that its to high to take a player with some drama. For the record we have nothing to lose giving Colt Lyera a shot. If conditioned and concetrated on football and working hard on the field and with the coaches off it he will be the best TE in the NFL. He is faster than Gronk more athletic and when conditioned he is functionally stronger than Gronk and tougher. He is a smart dude who had a bad upbringing and just finding his way. He is a chatacter and majors in drama off the field but he is smart and also has character and is a good teammate. The stories I hear bout that dude are like no other player ever!! In practice he lines up at safety and covers a deep threat downfield then lines up at TE or in the backfield and blocks an edge rusher like an OT. As a TE he runs by defensive backs and drags LBs. He ran a best time if 4.52 at combine/proday when he was out of shape. He can be kept in the right direction with good leadership and mentors. Kyle Long was like his big brother and Colt was awesome that year and worked as hard as any player. He was 6'4 258 lbs and in shape. That's when he impressed coaches and teammates lining up at all those positions. A WR in the NFL said he was the best player he ever player with or against and garunteed if he stayed straight will be the best TE and one of best players in the NFL at any position. Not saying he can be trusted yet but Ravens should sign him and give him a shot in my opinion. He is far more physical and talented than Eric Ebron who went #10 overall. Next to Brady Gronk is the pride of the patsies. It would just be to cool to see a ravens fan outperform Gronk!! And watch the patsie hypocrites cry about Colts former drama. If Blackmon agrees to commissioners strict testing and rules I think the ravens should at least check into it and determine if he has changed. He is a smart well mannered guy and a hard worker.

 

 

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Once Mosley spends some time in the film room and trusts his instincts more at the NFL he will be far better in coverage and pursuit. He is actually more a thumper than giving credit for and can lay the wood for a LB that needs to fill out. His off season goal he said was to add quality muscle with out slowing down through off season training and nutrition program. His goal is A very lean 245. He should be a terrorizing striker next year. BTW Weather spoon is a thumper who is an explosive sideline to sideline player and great in coverage. He covets zones like a big safety and closes in a flash with authority. Washington is very similar and I think we could keep him straight. His salary isis actually a bargain considering he is as good as Lavonte David.

I agree the one thing about coverage and pursuit that is not talked about is the fact its all about intuition angles and read react when you are a lb  he has all the skills he just needs to trust them even Lewis said that.

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Yeah Mosley hesitates sometimes and still makes the play. When he starts trusting his instincts he will get better angles in pursuit and better positioning in coverage. He has the skills for 5 ints and 5 sacks. Daryl Smith is farther over his prime than I thought. We need a Weatherspoon or Washington lining up inside with Mosley. That gives us 2 tall smart physical explosive sideline to sideline ilb's that can cover and patrol a zone and close like a big hard hitting Strong safety. Its like having 2 extra Strong Safety's in coverage which helps the secondary tremendously while striking fear in WRs TEs or RBs

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BTW what does everybody think bout Lyerla and or Justin Blackmon. They wouldn't cost much $$ or in Justin Blackmon case a high draft pick. Justin Blackmon is my favorite WR. He has Dez Bryant athleticism and ball skills but is a smoother slightly more sudden route runner. Come on guys let's give them both a shot, what do u say??

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Well, Aldon already plays 3-4 OLB for San Francisco, but other than that, I agree

 

Not to mention, most 3-4 OLBs these days are glorified DEs that occasionally drop into the flats.

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Not to mention, most 3-4 OLBs these days are glorified DEs that occasionally drop into the flats.

Yeah, Aldon is pretty much a DE because his first job is to rush the passer and his second is to stuff the run. You'll rarely see him drop into coverage. He's much like Suggs

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I'd like Aldon if he were to succeed Suggs or Dumervile, but as of now it's too much of a high risk-high punishment type of deal. A lot of cash for a guy we're not sure to stay out of trouble.

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BTW what does everybody think bout Lyerla and or Justin Blackmon. They wouldn't cost much $$ or in Justin Blackmon case a high draft pick. Justin Blackmon is my favorite WR. He has Dez Bryant athleticism and ball skills but is a smoother slightly more sudden route runner. Come on guys let's give them both a shot, what do u say??

Blackmon has to prove he's squeaky clean and even then It's more safer to go WR Round 1. 

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BTW what does everybody think bout Lyerla and or Justin Blackmon. They wouldn't cost much $$ or in Justin Blackmon case a high draft pick. Justin Blackmon is my favorite WR. He has Dez Bryant athleticism and ball skills but is a smoother slightly more sudden route runner. Come on guys let's give them both a shot, what do u say??

This won't happen after the Ray Rice issues and the many arrests last offseason. 

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Blackmon lol.

 

dude is a walking suspension...

 

also aldon smith really???

people think this is fantasy football or madden lol

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i dont know what these guys will be asking for in the FA market, and im not very familiar with how they play and what system they would fit in, and i know they both have injury concerns(but so did forsett) but the ability is there, without a doubt.

 

what are your thoughts on a 1 year deal as a stopgap option if we cant address RB properly in the draft?

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If we can retain Justin, we don't need these guys, and Ozzie did emphasize on the priority of extending Justin.

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Neither brings anything to this team that we don't already have (with or without Forsett).

 

I'd be more comfortable rolling with Taliaferro and Pierce...

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Neither brings anything to this team that we don't already have (with or without Forsett).

 

I'd be more comfortable rolling with Taliaferro and Pierce...

i was pierces biggest supporter for the longest time but im pretty much off that wagon now, not writing him off but he hasnt shown much since his rookie year, also im not sold on talliaferro, he just looks like a big and fast pair of pads and he hasnt shown that he can carry the load, idk if he has it all between the ears. 

 

im not saying just start throwing offers at these guys, but if they would come cheap i wouldnt see a problem with it.

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If Justin isn't retained, I wouldn't mind the combo of Williams and Taliaferro in our backfield.  I can't get in Pierce's corner at all!

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