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My apologies Mr. Castillo.

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I will admit I was on the bandwagon that wanted him gone. Looking at the current state of our line and the confidence I have in our depth, an apology is in order. He played no small part in making Rick Wagner a great RT, Urschel is smart but he needed the teacher and Juan stepped up to answer the bell. I understand James Hurst was a high potential guy possibly first round before his leg, and while not playing great could have been far wise for a rookie LT. So all the radial guys were right, Juan is paying dividends, I am a fan now.

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I had some questions, but they were answered...  I never called for his job.  l commend you on your fessing up...

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I used to make fun of Castillo and moreso Andy Reid for making a great OL coach and the DC in charge of the wide 9 defense they had a few years ago.  Glad your doing what you're supposed to be doing with the Ravens!

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Prime example of a case where a coach can only do so much with the players he's given.  It's hard to have success when 3 of your starting 5 are Gino, Shipley, and Oher.

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I have to apologize too. I was calling for this mans job. I was screaming at the TV for him to be fired. He turned it around. We went from having one of the worst O-lines in NFL history to one of the best in the league.

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I think the main issue was that Castillo and Caldwell simply weren't on the same page. Kubiak and Castillo though both had the same idea of how to use the ZBS.

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Castillo did do a good job and I can remember throwing a few jabs his way on this forum myself. He was and is the right guy for the O-line job.

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i never wanted castillo gone, i just wanted some of his sideline authority stripped. jim caldwell is simply not a very good OC and he needs big time weapons to make his system work, castillo and caldwell simply failed as a duo of coordinators and it was a bad idea to begin with. i dont think anyone should have EVER questioned his credentials as a teacher of the game, he is one of the greatest teachers the game has ever seen and he can turn the most raw of Olinemen into starting talents within 1 season of coaching.

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Class act apology. Thanks for posting from one of those 'radial guys' who supported him during the tough times.

 

When some fans were concerned with the past sack numbers with Eagles I posted:
"As far as those past sack totals (used as an uncertainty motivation bullet point) of Castillo's OL coaching are concerned...McNabb and Vick's extended plays/risk taking had more to do with those numbers. Castillo has done nothing, but make Pro Bowl linemen no matter where he's stopped. Even with the Eagles."

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"I believe those sack numbers from 2013 will go down and the run will be revived, as well."

 

I almost forgot about how some fans were calling for his head. I'm proud he's had the chance to prove his worth, again. Thanks Cas and thanks Omerta for posting. Class act.

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I was kinda concerned how well Castillo would adjust to  the zone blocking scheme because honestly that's never been his thing but  him and Kubiak really hit it  off. You know you got a good/smart coach when they able step out of their comfort zone and adjust to something totally new with success.

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I'm here to confess my sin that I wanted Castillo to go.  I hope Football god will forgive my knee jerk reaction.  Good thing is that we have the best coaches and staffs to stick to their expertise.

 

Feel great to be a fan like playing video game without real life consequences....

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Yeah I was calling for his job too, in hindsight how much was the Gino Shipley Oher combo and how much was Rice's injury/slowing down a part and Pierce being not as good as e was as a rookie. The line this year was awesome but Having KO back certainly helped as well as a good runner in Forsett.

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I too called for his head . I apologized before and will again he has done an exceptional job with our young lineman

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I will admit I was on the bandwagon that wanted him gone. Looking at the current state of our line and the confidence I have in our depth, an apology is in order. He played no small part in making Rick Wagner a great RT, Urschel is smart but he needed the teacher and Juan stepped up to answer the bell. I understand James Hurst was a high potential guy possibly first round before his leg, and while not playing great could have been far wise for a rookie LT. So all the radial guys were right, Juan is paying dividends, I am a fan now.

You are not alone in wanting Castillo gone. The lot of us wanted him gone too. However, the jury is still out just because we had Kubiak last year that helped with the offensive line woes. If stellar play of our O-line continues this year, I will join you in apologizing to Juan Castillo about this time next year!

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I wonder if there will be a thread like this on Dean Peas ?

I doubt it. Defense will continue being above average with him, and not that many were outright wanting him fire. Some (myself included) think we could do better, but most don't think he's actually bad. The only way an apology thread with him pops up is if the Ravens post back to back shutouts and everyone is like, "Okay, so it turns out he's actually amazing."

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You are not alone in wanting Castillo gone. The lot of us wanted him gone too. However, the jury is still out just because we had Kubiak last year that helped with the offensive line woes. If stellar play of our O-line continues this year, I will join you in apologizing to Juan Castillo about this time next year!

Yep, I'm not apologizing to him just yet.
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Wagner, Urshel, Hurst; 2 5th round picks and an undrafted guy all started games last year and we pulled it off. 2 of those guys are/will be full time starters. Thats very impressive development especially for 2 seasons on the job.

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ow kubiak how quick you are forgotten and how fast they are willing to give others credit for your work lol

 

so we just forget its kubiak zone blocking scheme we where using not to mention first thing kubiak did was change the terminologie for the o-line making it easier.

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Prime example of a case where a coach can only do so much with the players he's given.  It's hard to have success when 3 of your starting 5 are Gino, Shipley, and Oher.

Good point. I was very upset with our o-line but thankfully never called for Castillo's head but did question the ZBS after someone posted some comments Yanda supposedly made about it. I hope our o-line functions as good this year as it did last year now that Trestman is the OC.

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ow kubiak how quick you are forgotten and how fast they are willing to give others credit for your work lol

 

so we just forget its kubiak zone blocking scheme we where using not to mention first thing kubiak did was change the terminologie for the o-line making it easier.

Exactly my thought. When Kubiak came in many said it would help the O line because he had his own way of running the ZBS. Hopefully they just stick with it and we don't revert to Castillo's way.

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Exactly my thought. When Kubiak came in many said it would help the O line because he had his own way of running the ZBS. Hopefully they just stick with it and we don't revert to Castillo's way.

 

ow kubiak how quick you are forgotten and how fast they are willing to give others credit for your work lol

 

so we just forget its kubiak zone blocking scheme we where using not to mention first thing kubiak did was change the terminologie for the o-line making it easier.

 

You'd have a point, except that Joe and a few others all said it was Caldwell's terminology that was too complex. If you look at it closely, it's pretty obvious that Caldwell and Castillo weren't on the same page. Case in point, Detroit had a horrid run game this year. When Caldwell was in Indy, they had bad run games. Bad running games follow Caldwell wherever he goes, it seems. Example: Lions had 28th worst run offense, only averaged 3.6 yards a carry. Meanwhile, Castillo had success here this year... Hmm..... Put on your thinking cap, boys and girls, this is a tough one to figure out.

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I think it's too early yet to truly see Castillo's contributions to the team and evaluate his work.

His first full year we took a huge step back. Last year a quantum leap forward and saw incredible development in the young lineman. Wagner being the most noticeable example but even the contributions from Urschel and Hurst were huge given the injury problems we faced at times.

Looking back and without being any inside knowledge it's impossible to know whether their success was more a product of Kubiaks system or whether it was due in large part to Castillo's ability to develop young talent.

The truth is probably a combination of the two, but with Kubiak now gone and Trestman not having the track record that Kubiak has of routinely getting great production with average talent.... This year we should be able to truly evaluate Castillo's contribution.

If we see similar success or even a slight drop off then I think Castillo deserves the praise, but until then we have to accept the possibility that the success was due mainly to kubiaks system.

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I wasn't one who called for his head and I recall wanting to give him another shot, but I also want to wait as well before congratulating him. It's hard to say whether credit belongs to Kubiak, Castillo or both. This year should illuminate the truth.

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You'd have a point, except that Joe and a few others all said it was Caldwell's terminology that was too complex. If you look at it closely, it's pretty obvious that Caldwell and Castillo weren't on the same page. Case in point, Detroit had a horrid run game this year. When Caldwell was in Indy, they had bad run games. Bad running games follow Caldwell wherever he goes, it seems. Example: Lions had 28th worst run offense, only averaged 3.6 yards a carry. Meanwhile, Castillo had success here this year... Hmm..... Put on your thinking cap, boys and girls, this is a tough one to figure out.

 

Detroit had a horrid run game since barry sanders retired.

between 2002 and 2014 they only had 1 season they finished top 20 in run offense which was last year when they where #17.

yeah they seemed to had issues with the run game way before Caldwell came around.

also Caldwell became the HC there and he has an OC and o-line coordinator + he isent the GM so i fail to see how you can blame him since he has been there for 1 season.

 

I don't even know how you can bring up the colts cause they had no run game since edgerrin james left in 2005.

what is interesting is that Caldwell was an HC assistant and QB coach from 2002 - 2008 and he became the HC from 2009-2011.

at no point was he an OC or o-line coach and before he became the HC and after he left the Colts had issues running the ball.

heck 3 years later they still struggle.

How you want to link that teams issues to him is beyond me.

 

Also im pretty sure many other QBs would find his terminology complex if he using the same he was used to using with peyton manning.

I still don't see how his terminology as a position coach would affect other positions.

 

his 1 season as on OC with the ravens he was using Cameron book since he doesent have an own play book but i doubt he could determine what terminology position coaches should use with their group lol.

especially when you consider we had moeller and Castillo for 1 group.....

 

its a myth that bad run games follow Caldwell since he has never been in charge of fixing them in the first place.

 

a QB coach doesent involve himself in the run game and a HC hires coordinators and position coaches to do it for him.

 

its like saying its harbough fault the WRs struggle or the safeties cant cover totally disregarding the  OC/DC and position coaches lmao

 

you are stretching things for Castillo sake.

 

just like you are suggesting Castillo is the reason we had a succesfull run game , disregarding the fact we brought in an OC who has been producing pro bowl rbs for over 20 years......

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