Bernard Pierce arrested and released

[jazz1988]

Hope Pierce will be able to find another team soon but he should especially a team that runs more a man blocking scheme.

[ravensrock007]

Yep, we don't need that here. I like how the Ravens organization is establishing a baseline concerning what it means to be a Raven. If you are an excellent individual, then your excellent playmaking ability will be maximized,....and appreciated!

[Juviebest]

He will end up in New England.

[Tiz]

He didn't deserve to be cut. Just because we had a bunch of silly arrests last year.

Yes he did and not because the arrest

[izvoodoo]

He will end up in New England.

Somehow I doubt he misses the waiver wire on dallas

[Static]

He didn't deserve to be cut. Just because we had a bunch of silly arrests last year.

 

This is what the Media does. Our hands are forced. We were going to keep Rice until the Video came out and everyone freaked out.

[codizzle]

Good job on the release.. Definitely a higher profile than few other releases over past few years (besides rice obviously)

Clear as day.. Don't drive drunk

[GrimCoconut]

Ravens send a message. Change the title. Lol

[BSHU_Miami]

The front office warned everyone, already cut someone earlier for the same thing. And he still goes and does it.

And honestly he sucked anyway. I wanted him cut last year. And was hoping he didn't make it throw camp this year. Thanks for speeding up the process Bernard.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Does it bother anyone that players are getting fired from teams before convictions? In addition, add-in that other convicted players are still signing multi-million dollar contracts.

 

Not saying that Pierce may have eventually been proven guilty, what happened to due process? These are some strange times.

[Moderator 3]

Does it bother anyone that players are getting fired from teams before convictions? In addition, add-in that other convicted players are still signing multi-million dollar contracts.

 

Not saying that Pierce may have eventually been proven guilty, what happened to due process? These are some strange times.

 

Yes, but...

 

The front office warned everyone, already cut someone earlier for the same thing. And he still goes and does it.

And honestly he sucked anyway. I wanted him cut last year. And was hoping he didn't make it throw camp this year. Thanks for speeding up the process Bernard.

[JoeyFlex5]

Does it bother anyone that players are getting fired from teams before convictions? In addition, add-in that other convicted players are still signing multi-million dollar contracts.

 

Not saying that Pierce may have eventually been proven guilty, what happened to due process? These are some strange times.

well if he arrested and held, there isnt much due process involved, he was driving drunk and thats the long and short of it. things such as DV accusations have a grey area where it could be dramatized or self defense or totally fabricated etc.. but a DUI arrest is as black and white as it gets. 

[Alexir]

DUI isn't like a normal criminal offense. The evidence is the breathalyzer. If you want to keep your job, call a cab. If I can afford it on my salary, they can afford it on their half a million a year salary, or you can break the law and get a DUbyeeeeeeeeee

[Underdogsontop!]

Lose $

[FlocksGottaFeed]

 

Yes, but...

 

Thought that action could be questionable as well. There still should be due process. Let's just look at the recent DOJ report for example. There's obvious inconsistancies and outright unjustified targeting that has been proven throughout the country.

 

Nobody should lose a job until due process in the law if not for those reasons alone.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Sad story for a once intriguing RB who could have been a solid starter if he could have stayed healthy and worked a little harder.

No worries though, we will go forward with Forsett, Taliaferro, Toussant and a potential pickup via FA or draft.

[ludy51]

Does it bother anyone that players are getting fired from teams before convictions? In addition, add-in that other convicted players are still signing multi-million dollar contracts.

Not saying that Pierce may have eventually been proven guilty, what happened to due process? These are some strange times.

People freak out over these arrests and it forces the FO's hand

[Alexir]

I think it's funny that Terrance West was the one who picked him up from the police station.

[K-Dog]

Ravens aren't playing any games.

 

[rmcjacket23]

I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding amongst the public that thinks that "due process" extends beyond the legal system. It doesn't.

[ravefan52]

Big disappoint on the field too. Glad we cut him

[FlocksGottaFeed]

People freak out over these arrests and it forces the FO's hand

I get the freak-out thing. I just don't get the over-reaction thing. If it happened for everybody on St. Patrick's Day the unemployment rate would go back up the recession levels. If it happened consistantly league-wide Ersay and 100s of other players, coaches and ball boys wouldn't have jobs, as well.

 

It's simple: warn the players, set culture, but always allow them the same rights as every citizen (period). Due process is never reactionary.

[allblackraven]

I get the freak-out thing. I just don't get the over-reaction thing. If it happened for everybody on St. Patrick's Day the unemployment rate would go back up the recession levels. If it happened consistantly league-wide Ersay and 100s of other players, coaches and ball boys wouldn't have jobs, as well.

 

It's simple: warn the players, set culture, but always allow them the same rights as every citizen (period). Due process is never reactionary.

I'm no law expert but isn't Baltimore Ravens privately held organization and as such can impose rules on its employees?

[rmcjacket23]

We already know this, but I found the highlighted part sort of funny/interesting...

 

Bernard Pierce - RB - Free Agent

Ravens waived RB Bernard Pierce.

Pierce was busted for DUI overnight after getting pulled over for going 55 MPH in a 30 MPH zone. He failed field sobriety tests and was taken to jail before being released into Browns RB Terrance West's custody earlier this morning. Three Ravens have been arrested this offseason, and all three have been cut in short order. Pierce has averaged just 3.27 YPC on his last 245 carries the past two seasons and brings nothing to the table in the passing game.

Related: Ravens

[ratedr]

Let's be honest, cutting him wasn't hard because he was already a bubble player. I don't think he would've made the roster out of preseason. Looks good to "take a stand" but that's only part of it.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

I'm no law expert but isn't Baltimore Ravens privately held organization and as such can impose rules on its employees?

I'm not questioning our team's ability to impose rules. That's not my point. If this is the rule, I just find it questionable. The point is simple: No one should be found guilty of any crime before due process and be subsequently punished by an employer for charges that have not been met.

 

I am aware that the NFL is a 501©3 Nonprofit which by that category would have to adhere to Federal Employment Law which is outlined by Constitutional Law. Whether this applies to individual teams or not has already been answered - no. It's apparent because teams have released and/or kept employees who have been charged, convicted and/or found innocent with inconsistency and as they will. My point is simply: I find that extremely questionable.

 

Others can feel whatever. That's your right. To each his/her own.

[H8R]

I'm not questioning our team's ability to impose rules. That's not my point. If this is the rule, I just find it questionable. The point is simple: No one should be found guilty of any crime before due process and be subsequently punished by an employer for charges that have not been met.

I am aware that NFL is a 501©3 Nonprofit which by that category would have to adhere to Federal Employment Law which is outlined by Constitutional Law. Whether this applies to individual teams or not has already been answered - no. It's apparent because teams have released and/or kept employees who have been charged, convicted and/or found innocent with inconsistency and as they will. My point is simply: I find that extremely questionable.

Others can feel whatever. That's right. To each his/her own.

Wrong... The LEAGUE OFFICE is non-profit, not the league its self...

[fistfullwales]

So many apologists...is it that hard to stay out of trouble when millions are on the line? Can't argue he couldn't afford a cab, uber or used the aforementioned NFL-provided transportation. He made a huge mistake and rightfully paid for it.

[allblackraven]

I'm not questioning our team's ability to impose rules. That's not my point. If this is the rule, I just find it questionable. The point is simple: No one should be found guilty of any crime before due process and be subsequently punished by an employer for charges that have not been met.

 

I am aware that the NFL is a 501©3 Nonprofit which by that category would have to adhere to Federal Employment Law which is outlined by Constitutional Law. Whether this applies to individual teams or not has already been answered - no. It's apparent because teams have released and/or kept employees who have been charged, convicted and/or found innocent with inconsistency and as they will. My point is simply: I find that extremely questionable.

 

Others can feel whatever. That's your right. To each his/her own.

 

edit - typo

 

Yes but I am absolutely convinced that the Ravens didn't cut Pierce on news report or someone's twitter post - they have enough relevant information to make a decision like this. It was a clear cut DUI and even Pierce is not denying it. Why waste any time? Outcome of the due legal proceedings would be 100% identical.

[Inqui]

I'm no law expert but isn't Baltimore Ravens privately held organization and as such can impose rules on its employees?

You're correct. The way a company feels its reputation is affected by an employee (and their actions) has nothing to do with due process or the right to a trial or anything like that. Said company is allowed to wait on the results of any trial - and obviously a lot of them do - but there's no obligation at all.

 

Since a mod deleted my last part, I'll just say that it's why people have been cut and suspended for far less.