Ladarius Webb reacts to fan

[Tru11]

Hmmm........didn't know that..........Money paid being allocated this year, but altered on June 1?....Five full months past the 1st of the year?  What's going on a fiscal calendar for Cap that starts in June of each year? 

 

Anyway, if that is true, post free agency and draft, they could cut him. 

 

Gotta tell ya, the shorter the playing time of team veterans the easier it is to fall out of love.

 

http://overthecap.com/june-1-date-means-nfl/

 

that explains it way better then I could ever manage lol

 

heck even now I don't know it all 100%.

[Tiz]

I am a 14 year Air Force vet.  So to answer your question yes.  Military members are nothing more than a much smaller section of the US population.  You have military members who you respect and those who don't deserve your respect.  That aside, the person who commented to Webb is in the military, whether he earns respect or not, bottom line he's defending our freedom.  I never said he should be respected, I just made a statement that he's defending a country that allows Webb to say what he wants.

Yawn.

Sorry but no just because he is enlisted he's not protecting my freedom. Having been around many many less than stellar soldiers et al they're not all protecting anything. As a 14 year vet you should know that there are many there that are actually a danger to you and your unit in case anything real happens. Saw too many that were strung out selfish [profanity deleted] that even those in their battalion acknowledged that if they were in a war zone would feel worried because of some of their fellow soldiers

A lot of that is tied in to the age and the ease in which people can get into the armed forces and the way many grunts act. So again just because one respects the arms forces doesn't mean every one enlisted deserves respect or is protecting anything.

And while you didnt say he deserves respect you trid to portray him as someone who is defending our freedom when in reality he can be just like a lot of grunts that are in for a paycheck because they didnt know what to do at 18.

If you want to discuss this more I'd be more than happy to show you reference after reference of many of the bottom dwellers that got in and give others a bad name but its not my desire to put a black eye on the service as a whole I just think its absolutely ridiculous to act like everyone enlisted is protecting or freedoms or even have the desire to.

[757RavensFan]

Yawn.

Sorry but no just because he is enlisted he's not protecting my freedom. Having been around many many less than stellar soldiers et al they're not all protecting anything. As a 14 year vet you should know that there are many there that are actually a danger to you and your unit in case anything real happens. Saw too many that were strung out selfish [profanity deleted] that even those in their battalion acknowledged that if they were in a war zone would feel worried because of some of their fellow soldiers

A lot of that is tied in to the age and the ease in which people can get into the armed forces and the way many grunts act. So again just because one respects the arms forces doesn't mean every one enlisted deserves respect or is protecting anything.

And while you didnt say he deserves respect you trid to portray him as someone who is defending our freedom when in reality he can be just like a lot of grunts that are in for a paycheck because they didnt know what to do at 18.

If you want to discuss this more I'd be more than happy to show you reference after reference of many of the bottom dwellers that got in and give others a bad name but its not my desire to put a black eye on the service as a whole I just think its absolutely ridiculous to act like everyone enlisted is protecting or freedoms or even have the desire to.

 

One point you fail to mention or realize, while they may not be in harms way, all military members took an oath to defend this country with their lives if necessary.  So while you may have encountered some soldiers who acted like jerks and never stationed in a warzone, they did sign up to fight and die for this country if necessary. That you can't deny or take away.  Have a good day sir. 

[Tiz]

One point you fail to mention or realize, while they may not be in harms way, all military members took an oath to defend this country with their lives if necessary.  So while you may have encountered some soldiers who acted like jerks and never stationed in a warzone, they did sign up to fight and die for this country if necessary. That you can't deny or take away.  Have a good day sir.

I failed to realize that for a pay check people take an oath that they quickly forget?

C'mon man not everyone who has ever taken the oath meant it. You're attempting to skirt reality with all your posting.

What next, everyone who testifies in court under oath has told the truth?

You're defending your profession and that's fantastic but don't act like everyone who enlists is a stand up individual or takes the oath serious. The term AWOL exists because people enlisted don't take their oaths seriously. People get court marshaled because they don't act like soldiers, cut the bs. Lardarius called out an individual (if you can call it a call out) not a profession.

[K-Dog]

The other problem is, there isnt exactly a big list of quality corners available to replace Webb if we cut him.

[codizzle]

Webb just responded to it on twitter

[Tiz]

The other problem is, there isnt exactly a big list of quality corners available to replace Webb if we cut him.

On the app it makes it sound like a restructure may still happen.

Also read on the espn blog (I think that's where I saw it). That we did pursue some other cbs but asking price was to high,

We will make some cb moves just a matter of who/when

[D_UP]

Would you all take a pay cut tomorrow if your boss said its to hire this new guy? I'm a players first fan. The Ravens and other NFL organizations cut players at the drop of a hat, why would a player who's agent and organization agreed a upon a contract willingly give back money to the team? Webb could take pay cut this season and play terribly and be cut. So he would've given back money and lost his job.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Shouldn't this thread be edited and renamed:

"Webb (Allegedly) Reacts to a Troll (who's Account was Deleted) On the Day of His Courage Award (after coming back from 2 Severe Injuries)" or something like that?

 

Just saying.

[Grapple Raven]

Webb makes millions of dollars and eats good meals daily. He has incredible amenities in his home. He doesn't get shot at daily. His friends don't get blown up daily. Nobody on his team loses limbs, gets combat PTSD or has to worry about anything other than recovering and playing football to be set for life.

I think your comparison of Webbs football adversities to a soldier that's deployed is terrible on every single level. I doubt you meant any harm but his adversities are nothing compared to what WE face "overseas" when Webb has to do without his luxurious life and his millions of dollars and get shot at or worry about his life ending daily, then maybe we can try to compare.

 

Purple Punishment, I in no way meant to offend you or anyone that has served in the military currently or in the past. I read and took your viewpoint to heart as well. If I offended, I sincerely apologize to you.  My father served in the military and I would never intentionally disrespect any member of the military or anyone for that matter as I was not reared that way.   I was not referring to the amenities of either, but more to the characteristics of courage, dedication and sacrifices that both possess in very precarious situations that can affect their livelihood, each in their own way.  I was more looking at the attributes or qualities that they each possess and share as a comparison, and one that I think in their conversation with each other, they forgot when referencing their respective responses.  Yes, many in the military have made the ultimate sacrifice and I don't trivialize that at all, and I am sorry if I gave that impression as that was not my intent. Again, I offer my apologies. Grapple.

[gabefergy]

Shouldn't this thread be edited and renamed:

"Webb (Allegedly) Reacts to a Troll (who's Account was Deleted) On the Day of His Courage Award (after coming back from 2 Severe Injuries)" or something like that?

Just saying.

Sounds about right to me.

[flynismo]

Yeah, that was a crappy thing for Webb to say, but he must get sick of dealing with our whiny ungrateful fanbase

[sflegend89]

I believe Webb's response. He basically said that he's known people that are playing basketball or just living overseas and he didn't associate that word with the military..I don't think Webb meant what a lot of us thought he did, he interpreted "overseas" as just a geographical type of thing and the rest of us immediately just correlated it to the military.

[Fred Sanford]

I doubt it was made in the spirit of "go back to a warzone, and if you get killed, at least you won't be bugging me" or however people want to interpret it.

 

Doesn't matter anyway...Ngata, Boldin, guy after guy proves he's not here for Baltimore, or the fans...even Ray Lewis was flirting with the Cowboys.  It's important not to idolize these dudes off the field; they're men, sometimes from rough backgrounds, who get played to play a game.  All the world asks is to play well and not to get in trouble with the law in return for massive salaries.  The charities, "helping the kids," all the stuff they promote, is the same as the pink ribbon campaigns, it's to put out an image of these dudes as these selfless pillars of the community, that they aren't, at any higher proportion than any average person is.  Same reason this website has a squeaky clean, corporate "profane language" policy, it's always about putting the most inclusive image out there to acquire the most Benjamins; it's not to be taken seriously.

[stampedehero]

A veteran posted that he was a huge fan of Webb overseas and hoped that Webb would do something to help the team out.

Webb replied by saying, "you don't have to be a fan of mine. I don't care homeboy. Take yo [butt] back overseas."

Webb acted like a moron. He should have said Nothing! He said that to a vet and wanted him off his home soil. He must have said this while his dreads were under maintenance in his mothers beauty salon. He just joined myElam list.

[Moderator 3]

Let's summarize. Webb got trolled, took the bait, and responded badly. He made himself look like a jerk in the process. Gee, where have we seen something like this before?

I have no doubt that Webb has as much respect for the military as most of us, but nobody ever claimed he's a Mensa candidate. People do stupid things. It happens. I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill.

[CharmCityChampions]

He said" Dear Webb I'm Glad you doing  something to give back. But also hope you doing more for your team as well" . It's fine that he's glad Webb is giving back but for him to say "I hope you doing more for  the team as well" didn't need to be said in my opinion. Overall what he's saying is hey Webb it's great you doing a good job for the community but I think you need to take a pay cut. That doesn't seem right to me and quite a ridiculous  comment in my opinion. Is he Webb agent? No.Is he Webb financial accountant? No. Is he Webb parent? No.

 

It's one thing for a Ravens fan to suggest Webb should take a pay cut on fan boards and etc but it's another to make such suggestion on a players page or to a player inperson.  The Ravens Organization have more of the right to say  directly to Webb that he needs to take a pay cut  or do something about his contract and you know why? Cause they the ones paying him .

 

Honestly me personally I don't have the time to comment on a player page and tell him to take a pay cut or do what's best for the team. In my opinion that's silly and I got better things to do in my life. Will  I have discussions with other fans about a play contract  ? Yes but it's not the same thing when  I literally type a  suppose message starting off with "Dear"to a player telling him I hope you take a pay cut.

 

So do you not think the players come on these boards to read what the fans are saying about them? Do you not think Flacco has read on here all the hater threads about himself? It wouldn't surprise me if Webb came on here to read this very thread. Its not like this forum isn't known or kept hidden/secret. In that case what is the difference if fans talk about it here or talk about it on their twitter/facebook page? To me, for fans to talk about it here is sort of behind the player's back over saying it directly to them. I don't know, that's just me, but we are all guilty of saying something negative about a player, cursing them out, etc; to me it doesn't matter how or where you say it, your still doing it. The media is media, its all going to be out there for all to see whether its on a forum or twitter page.

[Moderator 3]

Most of the players avoid the forums BUT their family members and close friends are known to visit. Flacco avoids social media altogether and doesn't even watch ESPN or NFLN during the season. That's been reported several times.

[The Mom Gene]

Question though....  The guy in the instagram post never mentioned that he was a veteran...  He simply said that he was "overseas"...  While some may think the implication is there, that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.  The fans are over-reacting to something we know not very much about out of pure speculation.

 

My opinion is that I have seen so many things that this guy has done for the team... For the Community, hosting charity softball games, giving back throughout the holidays, and visiting with kids...  This is a ridiculous conversation being blown way out of proportion.

 

I mean, come on guys... Do we even know if Webby maintains his own twitter or instagram account?  I seriously doubt it... and let's just say for the "devil's advocates" out there...  You don't think the guy gets a little twisted because he has some fan telling him what to do??? 

 

Come on guys.

[fistfullwales]

I'll post the actual exchange again...

 

The vet said:

"Dear @l_webb21  I'm glad you are doing something to give back. But also I hope you are doing more for your team as well. When I was stationed overseas you were one of my favorite players at one point because of your relentless passion of the game... Now it's like you aren't playing up to the 12 mil the ravens are paying you. This isn't a bash but just like @untouchablejay55 in a leadership role pull the extra to be the shutdown corner they envisioned you to be. Be the Spiderwebb!! #PlayLikeARaven"

 

Webb said:

"You don't have to be a fan of mine. I could care less homeboy!! Take your butt back overseas."

 

"Stationed overseas" implies he is in the military, sure, it's not 100% a fact, but who uses "stationed" unless they're in the military? The fan's comment was not negative, sure, he is kind of giving Webb a hard time, but Webb should not have escalated it to the level he did. Webb messed up, bottom line.

 

Oh, and if you look at his twitter/IG, you will see he clearly runs his own social media accounts.

[rmcjacket23]

Post-June 1 cut saves $8M cap...yes please.

... with a $6M cap hit in 2016.

 

Keep that in mind.

[hn68wb4]

I'm with a lot of you, I'm on Webb's side here. Yes he overreacted a bit but the guy was out of line on a day when Webb was receiving an award for his off the field contributions. Looking at the guy's full comment that wasn't posted on RussellStReport in the link provided, I don't think Webb was too out of line here, should he be getting so fired up over some nobody's reply? of course not but I'm sure he sees crap like that every day and he finally just snapped on a day that is supposed to be about more than football for him. He's entitled to have said what he said and i don't disagree with him

[hn68wb4]

Question though....  The guy in the instagram post never mentioned that he was a veteran...  He simply said that he was "overseas"...  While some may think the implication is there, that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.  The fans are over-reacting to something we know not very much about out of pure speculation.

 

My opinion is that I have seen so many things that this guy has done for the team... For the Community, hosting charity softball games, giving back throughout the holidays, and visiting with kids...  This is a ridiculous conversation being blown way out of proportion.

 

I mean, come on guys... Do we even know if Webby maintains his own twitter or instagram account?  I seriously doubt it... and let's just say for the "devil's advocates" out there...  You don't think the guy gets a little twisted because he has some fan telling him what to do??? 

 

Come on guys.

that was my first thought: "why assume he's in the military? he never said he was, lets not assume here." I don't fault Webb (if he does maintain his own accounts) for saying what he said, guy fully deserved what he got and Webb just snapped on a day that was supposed to be about more than football for him, I'm sure he sees stuff like that every day and this guy caught him on the wrong day

[Tru11]

 

I'll post the actual exchange again...

 

The vet said:

"Dear @l_webb21  I'm glad you are doing something to give back. But also I hope you are doing more for your team as well. When I was stationed overseas you were one of my favorite players at one point because of your relentless passion of the game... Now it's like you aren't playing up to the 12 mil the ravens are paying you. This isn't a bash but just like @untouchablejay55 in a leadership role pull the extra to be the shutdown corner they envisioned you to be. Be the Spiderwebb!! #PlayLikeARaven"

 

Webb said:

"You don't have to be a fan of mine. I could care less homeboy!! Take your butt back overseas."

 

"Stationed overseas" implies he is in the military, sure, it's not 100% a fact, but who uses "stationed" unless they're in the military? The fan's comment was not negative, sure, he is kind of giving Webb a hard time, but Webb should not have escalated it to the level he did. Webb [profanity deleted] up, bottom line.

 

Oh, and if you look at his twitter/IG, you will see he clearly runs his own social media accounts.

 

 

 

questioning his leadership, telling him he lacks the passion he once had, saying he isn't playing up to his contract and also imply he should take a pay cut are all considered positive comments to you ?

[fistfullwales]

questioning his leadership, telling him he lacks the passion he once had, saying he isn't playing up to his contract and also imply he should take a pay cut are all considered positive comments to you ?

They did not warrant a response like the one Webb gave. They didn't warrant a response at all. Why is that so hard to understand? If you're in the spotlight you will receive comments far worse than this one and I'm sure Webb has - he needs to remain levelheaded and should not have responded. He mad a mistake, we all do, but there's no excuse for what he said, he crossed the line.

[K-Dog]

I wonder how different this thread would be if Webb was just coming off a pro bowl season.

[jazz1988]

Really? Solid? Not really how I saw it, but OK.

This kinda sums up 2013 Webby for me;

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000275662/Bess-20-yard-touchdown

 

Webb wasn't terrible at all in 2013 and I thought he played solid . He had some ups and downs but can't really expect alot from a player coming off acl tear.Not sure if that video actually sums up Webb 2013 season and if so I can come up with some videos such as the ones from Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis where they got embarrassed

 

It's really not impossible for good cornerbacks to get embarrassed at all.

[Tiz]

I wonder how different this thread would be if Webb was just coming off a pro bowl season.

Probably no different than some posts about ngata not taken one either

[Tank 92]

Webb wasn't terrible at all in 2013 and I thought he played solid . He had some ups and downs but can't really expect alot from a player coming off acl tear.Not sure if that video actually sums up Webb 2013 season and if so I can come up with some videos such as the ones from Champ Bailey and Darrelle Revis where they got embarrassed

 

It's really not impossible for good cornerbacks to get embarrassed at all.

 

Gotta be honest, he just plain sucked. It's fact that opposing teams targeted him each and every game.  Do you remember the Packers game? There was one receiver left on the field that could catch a TD pass from Rogers at the end of the game, and Webb let him get behind him and cost us the game. He summarily sucked.

[Tru11]

They did not warrant a response like the one Webb gave. They didn't warrant a response at all. Why is that so hard to understand? If you're in the spotlight you will receive comments far worse than this one and I'm sure Webb has - he needs to remain levelheaded and should not have responded. He mad a mistake, we all do, but there's no excuse for what he said, he crossed the line.

 

what is so hard to understand that the person should never had made those comments to webb in the first place.

 

just because you wear a uniform doesent give you the right to say those things without expecting any reaction to them at all.

 

love how people are mad at the person who reacted not the person who started it lol.

 

they are both humans you know.

 

being in a uniform doesent make you better then everybody else .